/lit/ - Literature

i have never read it

>>16640297
i liked it

no one on this board reads. That being said, I've heard Deneen talk about it. It is sad, the death of the American Community, thru technology, shitty urban planning resulting in suburbs where everyone has cars and no one is close with their neighbors. etc. I wonder about the revival, because I don't see one happening. Any thoughts?

>>16641000
Wanna hang out?

>>16640297
Great book.

>>16641000
No you're pretty much on it with why it declined, but I am seeing some revival because of people conscious of the decline and making a concerted effort to change this. This is also highly dependent on your local neighborhood. I live in suburbia. Its "friendly" but in a very obviously superficial way. Not sure how this can improve without a serious drop in population

>>16641000
I don't know but I'm pretty fucking lonely desu.

The cure is to make a conscious effort to unite communities.

>>16641059
>but I am seeing some revival
Where at? Reading?

>>16641656
>The cure is to make a conscious effort to unite communities.

How do we convince people to do so, butters? Many understand that something is missing in their lives, but they try to fill the void with drugs and binging on video games or Netflix shows. Long term, spending time and bonding with your community is obviously better, but many eschew that for short term satisfaction.

Another thing is that people don't want to put "effort" into their daily lives. What I mean by this is that people want to do what seems most natural or normal to them. Back in the day, cars weren't as common, so people had to work, live, and shop in pretty much the same area. This led to people having a vested interest in improving and maintaining the places they lived (this would happen anyway because they contribute to the town/area;s economy), and led to neighbors making more contact with each other since they'd also work and shop nearby. The community would improve without people making a "conscious effort" to improve it.

Like now, everyone has a car, so you can do all three things in totally different places. If someone works 25 miles away, they're not really improving anything in their area/town, are they? I have faith in people, but hoping that America to just "make a conscious effort" to unite communities seems kinda far-fetched after all the atomisation.

>>16641726
Reasonable question, and I have been asking myself that. The first stage, as I see it, is to pad their income with that non accumulative currency I’ve mentioned before. Try to help us all get “off the grid” and save on power, and to grow our own foods. As a supplement. I know we can’t grow everything we need in our moderate sized backyards, and practically nothing for the postage stamp suburbs. I’m still thinking it over though. Maybe it has to start in certain terrain

>>16640297
Extremely boring, I couldn't get through it

>>16640297
I think he's released a new edition covering social media's effect, but I haven't read it - I only read the first edition. It's sad how the first edition ended on a note of optimism, going so far as to provide solutions to the problem. Social media was a behemoth that people weren't ready for, and it's done more damage to communal relations than TV ever could have hoped to.

>>16641791
>The first stage, as I see it, is to pad their income with that non accumulative currency I’ve mentioned before. Try to help us all get “off the grid” and save on power, and to grow our own foods.

Sounds like Agorism.

Free books on Agorism:

https://theconsciousresistance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/manifestohumans.pdf

https://theconsciousresistance.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/How_to_Opt_Out_of_the_Technocratic_State.pdf

(Samuel Konkin's book who was the founder of Agorism IMO is unbelievably dry, and I think it would only be appealing to people who can tolerate extremely dry academic texts. Which I can't.)

>>16643329
Noted. I’ll take a second harder look at Agroism. Though I do think the non accumulative currency would and should be phased out.

>>16641025
underappreciated reply

The average American today isn't incentivized by ideas and potential rewards of things like a strong social network, nor do they use their peers to measure individual success; unfortunately, it's all about money. Social growth has to be manufactured by things like further tax write-offs for participating in activities, not just donating to charities.

The average American today isn't incentivized by ideas and potential rewards of things like a strong social network, nor do they use their peers to measure individual success; unfortunately, it's all about money. Social growth has to be manufactured by things like further tax deductions for participating in activities, not just donating to charities.

>>16640297
super dry but worth a read if you care about this sort of thing.
He writes about diversity later in his career but you'd be mistaken to call him based or redpilled or whatever, you need the foundation of BA to pick up on some of his subtle points.

Didn't get too far into it but it had an interesting premise

>>16640297
Thinly veiled racism