/lit/ - Literature

>>16634731
Literally who

>>16634734
Basically a community college professor lit made fun of when Hegel was seriously memed

>>16634781
>made fun of
his videos were actually helpful

>>16634781
everyone here liked him until they found out his kid is a tranny

>>16635360
Yah, kinda killed the mood. was funny tho. did he make anything noteworthy after the hegel serious though?

>>16634781
Is he not still memed anon?

Only dude brave enough to go into detail about every single Hegel passage. You won't find anything else like that online

>>16635375
hes still doing the hegel series

>>16635477
Oh, I stopped and kinda started to just read hegel myself.

>>16635360
What is the source for this claim I keep seeing?
I tried every permutation of the relevant keywords on Google and YouTube, and I couldn't find anything.

>>16635360
It started when /lit/ found out he was an adjunct professor for over 2 decades, when he made the condescending video on giving advice, and his pet peeve of not being called Dr. Sadler. His son being a tranny is just icing on the cake.

>>16635511
Source?

>>16635520
Advice video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl1Ny77mkRw

>>16634731
who?

>>16634731
link to his channel?

>>16635486
https://twitter.com/philosopher70/status/1188788965886824449

>>16635511
>>16635520
>>16635525
he's the usual half-baked academic that wishes the world were some technocracy that bends to his authority and praises his existence. a lot of academia is just resentful goblins rationalising the fact that they can't command people to 'correct' them towards their little pet theories and philosophies. i gathered this from interacting with him on socialmedia.

>>16635525
I still can't understand why he's so autistic about comments, even if he took them strictly as other peoples thoughts about him. It's beyond just boomer tier of not understanding you're going to get negative comments when famous.

>>16635823
This is true, especially for lower-tier schools. I can only imagine how bad it is with community college professors

>>16635391
H.S Harris Hegel's ladder

>>16635391
>>16635908
Is there an equivalent for Kant's Critique of Pure Reason? I haven't been able to find one.

>>16635911
No but I like Allison's Kant's transcendantal idealism, then Guyer's Kant and the claim of knowledge for an alternative reading, Beatrice Longuenesse book is also very interesting and so is Deleuze's book though that one was more of a curiosity for me

When did /lit/ become transphobic? I thought this was a more open minded and caring board

>>16636017
incels being edgy

>>16635485
Why would you watch the videos before reading it yourself?

People found him through the Hegel thing, as mentioned, but he was mostly memed as a counter-Peterson.

>>16634731
i don't like this guy. sure, his autistic sketches are alright, but he just seems so pretentious and up his own ass, and is deliberately vague, with-holding key points of what he's talking about. i also dislike what a narcissistic faggot he is, despite being middle-aged and fat. he also seems to have disdain for autodidacts. if his lectures were more straightforward and to the point they'd be better. he knows his shit but he's bad at explaining it and always leaves key points out.

>>16635908
Also Findlay commentaries available on the marxists.org version, plus Hyppolite's text.

>>16636017
>>16636108
Faggots.

Being open minded means seeing tranny's as the disgusting thing in the open they are, realistically hoping for the best, but knowing their nature, not liking them. Besides what are you some secular humanist? You want us to love every human no matter what???

>>16636017

>>16636108

>>16634731
It’ll keep happening until people stop doing it. Get woke, go broke.

>>16636170
Based Rolling.

>>16636170
howling

>>16634731
Hey mr Sadler

>>16636017
41%

>>16636170
Americans trying to imitate the English is cringe. She's posh, not a cockney you fucking melt.

>>16636312
>melt
they make it too easy, ameribros

>>16636312
You people sound silly no matter what part of your island you come from

>>16636164
>>16636163
>>16636275
Where is this hate coming from? Would you want people to bully you for being autistic or an incel?

>>16636449
You trannies are abominations. You're the walking antithesis of truth, a mockery of creation, a corruption of the good. We hate you because it's right to despise evil.

>>16636460
Not an argument, you are just slurring hate probably out of insecurity

>>16636462
You didn't ask for an argument but for the reason people hate you.

>>16636470
Yet you don't have a proper reason and you also don't speak for the people outside of 4chan who aren't as hateful.

>>16635345
This.

>>16635823
>>16635511
I just like watching his videos. His personality and his kid being trans doesn't spoil that.

>>16634731
It’s sad how this guy went from being respected and liked to being absolutely shit on. He did become more deranged or something though. He seems perpetually pissed off and bitchy in all his comments. Not to mention the Trump Derangement.

>>16636556
You'd be pissed off and bitchy if this was your son.

>Yeah I believe in God but we're not on the best of terms.
Imagine the sort of guy who would say that unironically.

>>16634731
I don't know why people like him. His videos are overly simplistic despite being hours long.

>>16636869
I really don't know how people can sit through his lectures because he is an objectively bad speaker. He constantly interrupts whatever he's doing or explaining to throw out some shitty question and then he'll awkwardly wait for a reply because that's the only way he knows how to get engagement from his students. It's fluff. It's what teachers do when they need to take up more time and not when they actually want to teach something.

>>16636869
>His videos are overly simplistic despite being hours long.
Thats the whole point. If you want complication just read the original books

>>16636695
Lmao that is kinda cringe if he did say that.
Tweet or video?

>>16636449
You talk as if people don't bully them lmao. The only difference is that unlike trannies they don't expose themselves completely to be targets of mockery

https://youtu.be/OoTer00NQJE

>>16634731
probably prefers to be forgotten on this site, as anybody with a tranny daughter would

>>16635360
It is more about his behavior toward his tranny son. Having a disowned son is one thing, calling him Susie is another. Especially if you're supposed to be face of traditional Stoicism in the modern world.

>>16636869
What’s a better alternative? Are there others who handle the content better or are we relegated to only interacting with the source material? I’ve used Sadler for a while but I’m wondering who might be better

>>16636017
Trannies were the nec plus ultra of the "progressive" movement. The average joe can't see how bad it is to have faggots, confused careerist women, and hedonistic deracinated mischlings running around everywhere, because the ideology of "can't we all just get along? haha :)" he's been sold is at least catchy and simplistic enough to override his instincts there.

But trannies were where normal people got off the train. Especially women. If you think women like trannies, you are badly deluded and only interacting with a minority of narcissists and psychopaths in the social media sphere that use trannies as virtue signalling opportunities (like they use everything and everyone else in life). Real women have a deep, instinctive, almost psychotic hatred of men encroaching on femininity.

Normal people just think it's retarded, self-indulgent, and grungy. Nobody likes trannies. It's an instinct. They're all grimy, grungy, shrill, flaming homosexuals.

It's not a "phobia" when you try to tell someone not to commit to wasting their life away on a sex fetish that alienates everyone around them and will only last for their 20s (at most).

>>16637517
>almost psychotic hatred of men encroaching on femininity
lmao women love having faggot friends

>>16634731
Olive Garden remembers him fondly

>>16636449
I don't hate them, I just don't think that a man who mutilates himself and takes hormone becomes a woman. Liberal ideologues want to force me to disregard this simple truth, but I won't.

>>16637566
They love the having, sure. Do they love the faggot?

It only goes to show how little trannies understand womanhood that they don't know about the hierarchy of female relationships, and how there are many forms of "friendship" with other women that exist solely for one woman's benefit, social status, and self-esteem. Even women have to be on the lookout for these hollow and exploitative friendships. Trannies, being men, can't see what is happening to them.

>>16635375
Hegel is not spammed as much as he used to be.

>>16636604
Hot.

>>16634731
I remember watching a Nietzsche lecture of his and he was literally just explaining the meaning of each sentence or paragraph. Not making any connections to the historical context of the statements, how they fit into Nietzsche's overall philosophy, or anything genuinely substantive.

>>16637624
Gender is more like an act than something physical. Look up the history of the word and its similarity to genres

>>16638583
I already know the history of John Money and how he raised a boy as a girl, resulting in the kids suicide and all because wanted to prove his little pet theory that there's some sort of distinction between sex and gender.

>>16638583
I guess dicks and vaginas are just an act

>>16638583
Gender is from Latin genus and gens, both meaning "root type," "stock," "race," all stemming from a Proto-Indo-European root that literally means "be born, be begotten." In its most primordial form it means "that which is by virtue of one's birth."

Genre is a French word related to genus. It means fundamental type, sort, kind, just like genus (plural genera) does. Species are grouped into super-specific groups, genera, because the logical relationship between the two terms means more or less "descending to a subordinate branch of specification" or "ascending to a more encompassing branch of specification." Dogs and birds are species of animal, animal in this case being a genus, relative to specific types (species) within it. The logical function of genus in this philosophical usage is "that which is taken for granted as immutably common to all the species being considered," in this case animals. So the logical function of the root gen- has almost always been to indicate immutable features. It is that which is innate, by nature of birth.

Gender, like genre, is a derivation of genus meaning root type.

None of this necessarily means anything anyway because there's something called the genetic fallacy. It would mean nothing necessarily if the root "gen-" meant "fuck trannies" and it would mean nothing necessarily if the root "gen-" meant "free love! make a penis out of hog skin and glue it to your pussy lips!"

Butler's gender performativity thesis is retarded. It just twists some commonplaces of critical theory, that much of our identities are performative and participatory and require constant "upkeep" of progressive interpellation (it's the same basic logic behind "micro-aggressions" being the interpellative upkeep sustaining discursive structures - structures persist by people using and maintaining them). It has no basis for extending this to anything necessarily, neither gender nor even race. Just because underlying realities require participation and instantiation to be visible does not mean they do not exist. You can train a wolf to act like a dog, sort of, but it isn't a dog, and it will be miserable and mentally ill its whole life and eventually hurt someone.

The abstract logical form of Butler's thesis is: "discursive structures require participation by subjects to persist; there is nothing 'underneath' them that invites participation, as all structures are just arbitrary historical concretions and sedimentations; if we stop participating in them, we can remake them however we want." Notice how #2 doesn't have any justification? Just because structures can be bent, or even destroyed, doesn't mean they float on thin air. Notice also how #3 doesn't make sense: if all morals and cultures and habits are performative and float on thin air, what firm ground are you standing on in order to critique existing structures in the first place? Wouldn't true laissez-faire be just that, letting existing structures be?

>>16638583
>Look up the history of the word

>c. 1300, "kind, sort, class, a class or kind of persons or things sharing certain traits," from Old French gendre, genre "kind, species; character; gender" (12c., Modern French genre), from stem of Latin genus (genitive generis) "race, stock, family; kind, rank, order; species," also "(male or female) sex," from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

Not seeing anything about it being an act.

>>16638730
Butler's gender performativity like most of the poststructuralist crap of her hack colleagues is ONLY destructive. It ends in nihilism. It is derivative Nietzscheanism, except Nietzsche called for "creative destruction" of a vitalistic type that is rejected by Butler, who remains a soft squishy neoliberal bohemian. Nietzsche tells you how to destruct all structures too, he also tells you that everything is performative and the performances are not mandatory, but he was honest enough to tell you what happens if you fully swallow this pill: nothing is left. That's why Nietzsche was interesting, he saw all sides of the problem because he actually thought it through.

Butler wants all the benefits and power of Nietzsche's method, to "deconstruct" what she doesn't like, but she also wants to stand, uncritically and in a thoroughly un-Nietzschean way, on the firm ground of convictions that she DOESN'T want destroyed, i.e. the aforementioned bohemian neoliberalism, and some kind of limp-dicked nod to left-wing politics (which she betrays every day by being a bourgeois academic and champagne socialist). Once again she wants to "destroy capitalism" with the power of the destructive method, but in place of the injunction to "create," she is intellectually lazy and assumes that a post-capitalist world will look like her own world looks like: a bunch of rich bohemians going to New York restaurants and doing each other favours.

All of this is filtered through a (thankfully dead) French style of academic charlatanry that uses the moral and intellectual prestige of critiquing existing institutions - in the modern age, in which the plebs all doubt existing institutions by default, so it's an easy sell - to pose as a respected sage (bourgeois) and courageous activist (bourgeois). Her fundamental outlook is bourgeois and her fundamental personality trait is narcissism. She wants you to fuck up your life because it marginally increases her cachet with whatever is left of her (thankfully dying) cabal of New York restaurant-goers whose emotional lives are so stunted that they derive most of their pleasure from seeing their name in print, in intellectual spheres they control through nepotism anyway. So they're not only narcissists, they're stupid and easily gratified ones. Fuck Judith Butler.

>>16637566
Faggots =/= Trannies. Women love the social status of being a Good Person for having a faggot friend, but most women in truth hate gays, and gays hate most women.

A tranny is something entirely, ENTIRELY, different. "Gay" initially created six new genders (gay, bi, asexual - male, female). Trannies aren't just "an extra gender", they're actively trying to take femininity as their own. A fag doesn't threaten a woman's femininity, but a tranny does.

>>16638730
>last paragraph
Buddhism comes to similar conclusions as "deconstructionism" and "critical theory", about the ultimately rootless and transitory nature of reality. However, because of the very problems of language, when you start talking about how ACKHYUYUALLY atoms aren't real because they're made of quarks and quarks aren't real because they're just energy vibrating slowly :^) you make language completely worthless and incapable of communicating information. It uses the Two Truths doctrine, wherein you have the Ultimate Truth ("everything is transitory and made up of parts") and the Conventional Truth ("chairs are real, go kick one and see if your foot hurts").

Critical Theory lacks this, and just smooshes the two together. It deconstructs social relationships and notices that they're just a big mass, a large web, of forces and structures and systems, but because it's unable to ever divorce itself from speaking in the Ultimate, it can never talk about the Conventional. "Taxes" are a social construct, but go ahead, don't pay them, see what happens. Your foot is made up of atoms which are mostly empty space, but go ahead, drop a brick on it, see what happens.

It neither accepts a solidity nor a liquidity to reality, and instead some godawful in between. Lacking solidity, we can't stand, lacking fluidity, we can't swim. It's like quicksand, and the more you struggle, the more you just sink until you drown.

>>16638763
I don’t mean to quibble but she resides in California.

>>16638730
>>16638763
And then the tranny you were responding to was never seen here again.

>>16638821
>quibble

>>16638792
I ran out of characters, so I couldn't say
>Actually accepting the transitory nature of all things just leads us to accepting that "unreal" and "real" are meaningless. Rather, we should talk about HOW things are real. Unicorns are real, even if they're only in our heads. Taxes are real, even if it's just "a social construct".

>>16638821
California was colonized by New Yorkers in the 50s.

>>16634731
ADJUNCT

>>16639656
Imagine being a part time employee after 20 years.

>>16636017
We will never normalize gender schizophrenia. Trannies need to seek help. Society has chosen to collectively accept a form of schizophrenia as they piggy packed on the gay rights movement. I'd rather this board be flooded with gays over tyrannies.

>>16636108
Nobody is being edgy. You're just being an idiot.

>>16640589
Based

Obviously there is a conceptual difference between your biological sex and how it's expressed in behaviour. However, the mistake lies in people believing that this intrinsically legitimates transgenderism. I don't think it does and I think we're going to find that out in years time when these malleable young transtrenders realise they've fucked up.

>>16638730
>>16638763
Based

>>16640604
These I'll people are being failed.

>>16636312
That's the joke.

OBESITY

>>16634731
ngl, i actually has some good interaction with him about 7 years ago when he made his kierkegaard videos. was going through some shit and found solace in his content. i even reached out and thanked him and he was pretty receptive and helpful. kinda stopped watching him soon after but i came back to his channel recently and he's become kind of a dick to his viewers. he's sarcastic and seems to have little patience with having to repeat himself or having people suggest content to him. kinda bummed me out cause idk if maybe he's getting burned out with the whole youtube thing.

>>16641286
That depends upon an American perspective on British accents?

Okay, I get it.

FAT BASTARD

>>16637632
Are you a woman?

>>16636017
Pay money to take these hormones while the natural test levels in men drop year by year, decade by decade. Instead of rising to fight these changes you succumb to them, choosing to let this world take you fully under, and you pay for it out of your own pocket. It's sad and pathetic at the same time, I feel for these people but I'm also disgusted by them because they proceed to act like mini tyrants telling us to conform to this system of capital that they were the first to fall victim to. Capital preys on the weak and with this culture of the most oppressed being the most virtuous they proceed to attack anyone who doesn't agree with them. Fuck trannies.

>>16637092
What percentage is this guy Asian?

Nietzschean days vs the Platoauing

>>16636017
I don't really get it either, trans people are harmless and not exactly super common either.

>>16637019
He says that stuff in his AMAs.

>>16636108
No a lot of people on here are sincerely hate filled

>>16642365
I think the most hateful thing you can do to a person is lie to them and play along with their delusions.

>>16642137
Any affront to the truth is harmful and this discordance most commonly manifests itself in trannies with suicide.

>>16638792
Last paragraph you wrote is eloquently put, I'll steal the liquidity and solidity sentence for myself.

>>16642137
it's not trannies that are the danger but all the lefties that want to virtue signal using them and cancel anyone who stands in their way.

>interpret Hegel word by word
wtf man

>>16642490
Truth isn't what you think it is, trannies aren't anymore an affront to "truth" than using a chair as a surface to set your food on too.

>>16636017
Trannies are just another attack on males and men. Why would you encourage a mentally ill person to mutilate themselves as a treatment instead of repair their damaged psyche? Its fucking absolutely deluded that doctors throw away their Hippocratic oath when dealing with trannies.

What other treatment results in 30%+ of the recipients of the treatment killing themselves?

>>16642737
Not all trannies get genital reconstruction surgery, but why does it matter what adults choose to do with their own bodies? You demanding that everyone has to strictly identify with their biological features is unreasonable and ridiculous. It's similar to forcing someone with 11 fingers to identify as an 11 fingered man, because his genes are 11 finger genes and any thought of not being an 11 fingered man is mental illness

>>16642728
Truth doesn't exist because chairs can be used as tables? What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>16642773
>but why does it matter what adults choose to do with their own bodies?
Because human beings do not live on an island into themselves. Everything we do affects other people and we have no problem restricting what people do with their bodies when it comes to prostitution, drug use, and indecent exposure even though these things don't "harm anyone" in certain respects. These people who obsess over their sexual fetishes hurt themselves and they hurt their families and friends who now have to deal with this insanity.

>>16638598
Hitler breathed. Are you going to stop breathing as well just to spite him?

>>16638730
gender (n.)
c. 1300, "kind, sort, class, a class or kind of persons or things sharing certain traits," from Old French gendre, genre "kind, species; character; gender" (12c., Modern French genre), from stem of Latin genus (genitive generis) "race, stock, family; kind, rank, order; species," also "(male or female) sex," from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

Also used in Latin to translate Aristotle's Greek grammatical term genos. The grammatical sense is attested in English from late 14c. The unetymological -d- is a phonetic accretion in Old French (compare sound (n.1)).

The "male-or-female sex" sense is attested in English from early 15c. As sex (n.) took on erotic qualities in 20c., gender came to be the usual English word for "sex of a human being," in which use it was at first regarded as colloquial or humorous. Later often in feminist writing with reference to social attributes as much as biological qualities; this sense first attested 1963. Gender-bender is from 1977, popularized from 1980, with reference to pop star David Bowie.

>>16642696
>wtf why can't I just be hateful to people without being called out on my bigotry!?

>>16642737
Medical professionals have proven that transitioning is the best way to make them happy. The main thing that causes their depression is people like you who bully them and so its the transphobes problem not theirs.

>>16642905
You people are so dumb. If Hitler had a particular idea and set out to prove it by doing evil shit, and in the process actually disproved his own idea, I would use that to discredit his original idea. John Money had an idea and did evil shit and the evil shit he did failed to support his idea. That's a mark against his idea.

>>16642916
No they haven't. The only evidence to support this idea are short term followup studies that are self reporting. They'll simply ask a tranny 6 months or so after a transition whether they're happier and then use that as proof that surgeries make people happier. That same tranny could kill himself a week later and nobody would know about it.

>>16640604
the only thing with this story was the failure of the trans woman to tell him that she was trans. his behvaiour was pretty chill i believe

>>16642920
Fucking retard.

>>16642916
>Medical professionals have proven that transitioning is the best way to make them happy.
If as little research into pharmaceutical treatment for transexualism went into any other issue, say heart problems, we would still be treating people with bloodletting.

>>16642124
This dude is a weird kind of pathetic

>>16642932
>no they haven't
t. random dude with no experience in the matter

>>16642959
See
>>16642986

Fact of the matter are you are just some bigots online who get off to being hateful and don't want to accept that the world is moving on without you

>>16642986
I'm literally a doctor.

>>16642991
That goes against standard practice? Sure

>>16642991
Its a sociologist issue

>>16642986
This is pathetic.

>>16642989
>>16642986
>>16642932
>>16642916

Was curious about this and did some cursory research.

This is the most cited study on long-term outcomes for transition patients: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885&source=post_page---------------------------

They found that following reassignment surgery, mortality rate is a lot higher compared with a healthy population. I don't think this says anything about whether the treatment worked on not tho. They should have used an un-operated on trans population as the control. The study doesn't say anything other than that trans people who choose to transition have reduced quality of life outcomes - which should already seem pretty obvious.

>Sadler thread
>People just talk about transgenderism
4chan is literally obsessed with trans people

>>16643250
You can't trust people that support transgenderism. They can't help but be dishonest.

Id do anything to get a chance to drown this motherfucker