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16614622 No.16614622 [Reply] [Original]

Did this guy have any ideas of his own or was he just Socrates' penman?

>> No.16614626

Yes, read a book.

>> No.16614641

>>16614622
The Laws and the Epistles

>> No.16614649

>>16614622
What? Most of the ideas in his dialogues are his own. He includes Socrates so much as more of a way to memorialize and pay respect to his teacher than a way to record the guy's philosophy

>> No.16614690

>>16614622
Early dialogues are assumed to be Socrates' thoughts. In other dialogues, Plato is thought to be using Socrates as the vehicle for his own thoughts.

>> No.16614725

>>16614690
You can tell because the earlier dialogues line up more with Xenophon's account of him.

>> No.16615290

>>16614690
>>16614725
What are the clearly Socrates-based dialogues and what are the ones where Plato is clearly advancing his own agenda?

>> No.16615302

>>16615290
Lysis, Charmides, Apology, Crito are all Socrates.

>> No.16615502

Socrates is Plato's fabrication. An urban legend, he never existed.

>> No.16615530

>>16615502
what about xenophon?

>> No.16615550
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>>16615502
Greece never existed. It was invented by the Romans.

>> No.16615557

>>16615290
Anything where it's "how do you know" and it ends with aporia is Socrates.