/lit/ - Literature

>>16582271
No but I'm going to start Hyperion and heard that it gets spooky.

Also, anyone here heard of stormlight archive? I'm halfway through oathbringer and it's really boring. Is it worth finishing? I loved the first two books btw.

>>16580058
Enjoy female Char I guess, though no war until the later books.

Or just watch more Gundam because there's plenty of it and it's all good, eg 00, UC timeline, Origin, etc

Scifi space operawise, Revelation Space by Alistair Reynolds is good hard scifi/horror.

>>16582271
uuuuuuh muhah fuhin uuhhh berserk

>>16582271
I read both the Wayne Barlowe novels
God's demon: great worldbuilding and worth a read
Heart of hell: interesting sequel hook, generic plotline and ending ruined it

>>16582271
Fucking Berserk.

we did it exclamation point

>>16582271
>Have you read any extremely dark fantasy
The book I began last night involves MC tracking down a mage (+ his demon thrall) who is going around the city murdering innocents and raping them if they're male or boy
Considering the MC is a vigilante-turned-good (one past deed involved snapping, and literally torturing and filleting a cannibal tribe leader for hours), I want to see MC fuck this thing up in all sorts of ways.

I just started reading neverwhere today but the protagonist seems like a gary stu and it feels like it's going in a generic direction. Should I keep reading it? I really just wanted some good urban fantasy stuff but this is feeling pretty sloppy so far.

20 pages in.
>Religion bad.
>Free American Independent Theocratic Hegemony.
Is there any book without that kind of tropes? One way or another.

>>16582288
>anyone here heard of stormlight archive?
I hope you enjoyed your first visit to this thread.

>>16583112
It's my favorite novel by him.

Rather than a gary stu I always saw the main character as a study in the most boring protagonist ever created.

He's like a straight man in a comedy sketch, not a single thing stands out about him, it's part of what I thought was novel about the book.

>>16582271
>thread question
Yeah, Greg Bear's City at the End of Time.

Seems to pull inspiration from The Night Land.

lmao

>>16583112
The only good thing Gaiman ever wrote was Sandman.

>>16583017
Title of book?

Not a big sci-fi guy in general, but I'm interested in checking out some more. I really enjoyed Ender's Game as a kid (read most of the Speaker and Shadow series) and I've already read some Asimov, Bradbury, Wells, Verne, all of Vonnegut (if that counts). I was thinking about scooping
>Where Late The Sweet Birds Sang
>Dhalgren
>The Left Hand Of Darkness
Any other recs?

>>16583757
The Dahak Trilogy

>>16583710
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00735JVOG
it ramps up from the first chapter and evidently you can read the first 5 to see if you like it

>>16577130
ok, first impression of Hyperion: I'm interested. The first couple chapters were all introductory stuff, with flowery descriptive language and a bunch of new terms I'm not familiar with. So I was going cross eyed at first. And I'll be honest, I don't understand what they mean by time lag. Only that it has something to do with the world passing faster around them than while they travel, so they end up "skipping" a few years into the "future". I suppose it has something to do with time being relative and all that E=MC2 bullshit, but I never actually learned how that works in school. And so I'm confused by it in the book.

ANYWAY, point is: I didn't have a strong grasp of what was going on. But then they introduced a tribe of little cross worshipping retards, which finally hooked me. It was so ridiculous, and funny, and horrific at the same time. I concluded that portion of the book, which is only the first few chapters in. So please don't spoil what happens afterward. I just wanted to say that if the remainder of the book is as interesting as the first story, then I'll probably enjoy it a lot.

>>16583550
That's why you shouldn't be using it for recs like that as opposed to other ways.

anyone got any suggestions for well narrated/produced audiobooks, or audio drama adaptations? I have a spare audible credit

>>16584059
I just use the recs to get a huge list of potential books to trawl through and hope to get 1 or 2 worth looking into from it.
But I've fucked mine up by having a fair few low reader count books entered and the "readers also enjoyed" for them tends to be unrelated crap because of the sample sizes so it throws off the recs which seem biased toward your most recently read books

>>16584163
That's why you should look at the profiles of people with similar taste to your own instead.

Fuck Sanderson
Fuck Grrm
Fuck Abercrombie
Fuck rothfuss
Fuck female authors
Fuck magic systems
Fuck trilogies
Fuck sagas
Fuck chronicles
Fuck maps
Fuck the chosen one
Fuck violence fetishized by soft losers
Fuck the evil empire
Fuck the underdog
Fuck magic swords
Fuck maps
Fuck female protagonists
Fuck chinkshit
Fuck modern ethics in a fictional medieval world
Fuck grimdark
Fuck unreliable narrators
Fuck african "fantasy"
Fuck dragons
Fuck sci fi

>Rhythm of War is an upcoming epic fantasy novel written by American author Brandon Sanderson and the fourth book in The Stormlight Archive series.
>It will be published by Tor Books on November 17, 2020. Rhythm of War consists of one prologue, 112 chapters, multiple interludes and an epilogue.

>>16584151
The first Dune book has a whole cast of actors and music. Really adds to the creepy and mystical tone of the book. Very nice production. About the best I've heard myself so far. Early audiobooks tend to have higher production values. Probably because they believed audiobooks would sell a lot more than what they actually did. But of course audiobooks are still books, and they don't sell enough to warrant all the production involved. So naturally over time, they started cutting out all the unnecessaries, until it was only a single narrator is carrying the series.

Assassin's Apprentice narrated by Paul Boehmer isn't' highly produced at all. But Paul really gets into the roles and acts them all out. Perfect haughty british voice like he's royalty or something. So it's more like listening to a one-man play.
Same with The Lies of Locke Lamora narrated by Michael Page. Just a single guy who gets into the act. Fitting voice for the setting.

The Wheel of Time series has two solid Narrators. 1 for the male PoV chapters, and 1 for the female PoV chapters. Both very talented.

There are other good narrators/productions. But these are who I consider a tier above merely good.

>guy because president of earth by shitposting on futuristic imageboards
what a boring book, not even going to bother with the sequel. are there any good scifi books that hopefully have little to no aliens, and maybe believable future technologies

>>16584180
>incel wants to fuck
same old story

Thinking about reading pic related. Thoughts? Yea or nay?

Hey guys, I won't shit up this thread with my blog but for context this is how I feel >>16584307
That is why I am looking for a good fantasy book.
Necessary requirements:
-Just one standalone book. I don't want to jump in with a huge franchise, because I believe it will be overwhelming
-Be a good book
Not necessary, but it would be nice because I am a sucker for those things:
-It would be nice if the protagonist is in a relationship with someone, if they even go adventuring together it would be even better, so the gf should also be a main character and not just "I have a gf btw".
-It would be cool if it wouldn't be classic, early middle ages setting but a setting where at least flintlock pistols exist, I really like the dynamic of magic vs technology
And that's that. The language can be English or German. I have only read a single fantasy book (franchise), called Reckless by Cornelia Funke. Don't think she's that known internationally, but here in Germany she's a pretty big deal. Admittedly I read those books like 5 years ago, but I absolutely loved them, except a scene in the third book where, if I remember correctly the protagonist got cucked by his gf he had since book 1 because she wanted to "be free" or some shit like that, I wish I was making it up. But other than that I can wholeheartedly recommend the 3 Reckless books and if you happen to know them you may be able to recommend something similar.
I am looking forward to your recommendations.

>>16585104
does the protag have to be male?

>>16585162
Not neccesarily, no. I am male, so I think rolling with male protagonists is easier (now that I think about it, I have never read a book with a female main protagonist) but I am not against it or anything.

>>16582271
>New thread
Fuck e william brown.

>>16584180
based

>>16583160
Fuck off /pol/ christcuck, you're not welcomed.

>>16584180
so many "fucks"
what are the "based"s?

Spoonfeed me more fantasy to read.

some military stuff is good, i liked powder mage and black company. Finished latest joe abercrombie book and didn't like it.

>>16584542
>>16584151
Everything this guy mentioned are shit books. They might have good narrators, but if the book/story is shit, it doesn't make sense to listen to it.

What do you actually like? Can't recommend something if we don't know your taste and fetishes.

>>16585104
Library at mount char
Jonathan strange and Mr Norrell

gib sci fi horror

>>16585393

>>16585417
Six gun tarot

>>16585104
Cornelia Funke wrote Inkheart which is fairly well known and even had a Hollywood adaptation.
Just wanted to say that. Can't think of anything for your recs.

>>16585396
oh fuck off, all of those books are good.

Rating them from best to worst: Dune > The Wheel of Time > The Lies of Locke Lamora > Assassin's Apprentice

I bet you're going to recommend something by Sanderson and/or Abercrombie. This thread is so predictable.

>decide to check out royalroadl
>start looking through the forums
Oh no...everyone who uses this site is retarded aren't they?

>>16585420
Fuck this gay chart.

Also is there some way of filtering out tags on goodreads? I feel a blacklist for Young Adult and LGTB might make it remotely useful.

>>16585405
Thanks for those recommendations, I'll look a bit into them and see what intrigues me more.
>>16585466
>Inkheart has a movie
What the fuck.
>Those ratings
Oh, it's one of those bad adaptations, huh. I actually never read the Inkheart stories myself. A 12 year old girl as a protagonist never really caught my interest.

The Grace of Kings, The Dandelion Dynasty #1 - Ken Liu (2015)
Ken Liu is an author whose short fiction I've consistently enjoyed. Considering that almost everything he's been involved with has been science fiction, it's curious that his debut novel is fantasy. Because I've often not liked the novels of my preferred short fiction writers and due to my disappointment with The Three-Body Problem I was concerned that it would be the case with this as well. It was not.
Oftentimes it seems that how much we'll overlook the flaws of what we're engaging with is a primary determinant of how much we'll be able to enjoy ourselves. Make no mistake, this book is ridiculous in an amazing way with its over-the-top heroics, warfare, and sentiment. Characters are constantly dying, allying, betraying, slaughtering, rebuilding, and carrying out unconventional stratagems. There's a lot that happens in relatively short time. Many fantasy authors probably would have stretched out this novel into a trilogy on its own, as it has three distinct arcs in five parts. 40% of the novel is over the course of a single year, though the overall narrative covers much more time.

Although this is a fantasy novel there's a considerable amount of explaining how and why things are that is more reminiscent of science fiction, primarily about technology used which may otherwise seem out of place for the setting. The fantasy element is that there are gods who meddle in mortal affairs, which in terms of the story is why various events occur that often alter the proceedings in slight ways but lead to drastically different outcomes. The gods don't have qualms about appearing in person to directly give their chosen mortals orders either. Humans are the proxies of the gods attempting to exert their influence over each other.

There is a large cast of characters, 40 are listed as major characters, and there are several POVs. I was amused by all of it as many of the secondary and tertiary characters are well-done. The two primary characters are a shiftless rogue and a disgraced noble, the former wanting their society to become what it never has been before and the latter for it to return to what it never was. That's how it becomes anyway, but their stories start far differently. Kuni Garu, the rogue, is described as "a bit of floating duckweed, just drifting through life, good for nothing" until he meets Jia Matiza, a love of his life, and decides it's time to assume the responsibilities that come with being an adult. Mata Zyndu is eight-foot tall and as musclebound as they come. He's been lectured and trained from birth that he exists to avenge and restore his noble lineage. As far as he's concerned there's almost nothing that can't be solved with brute force and overwhelming violence.

Any complaints I may have are irrelevant relative to how pleased I am. I'll gladly read the sequel and the rest of the series as it releases. It appeals greatly to my taste, but perhaps not yours.
Rating: 5/5

Our parents never knew how good they had it.

>>16585483
>decide to check out /sffg/
>start sifting through the posts
Oh no...everyone who uses this site is a pseud aren't they?

>>16585483
It seems like the new fanfictiondotnet if you remember that site.

>>16585632
welcome to 4chan

>>16585470
Dune and wot are shit. Kys you fucking piece of shit for continuing the spread of those recommendations. Just do us a favour and neck yourself.

>>16585589
>this one was thoroughly ruined for me via all of the gross sexist fantasy setting tropes, so... 2-2/5 stars.

>Why two stars?:
>*Women* - Where were they? For 400 pages we had one "main" female character, who ended up being treated way too much like a secondary character. The rest of the women were minor characters. And the main female character spent most of her story arc picking herbs, getting pregnant, having babies, encouraging her husband to take a second wife, and then becoming stereotypically jealous of the new woman in her man's life.

Might give this a read.

>>16585589
That book was a 2/5 at best. You have shit tastes.

>>16585632
Why would you judge a board based off a general dedicated to genre?

>>16585657
Which is why it says
> It appeals greatly to my taste, but perhaps not yours.
At the end.
Are you saying that as on overall assessment of my reviews or just this one in particular?

>>16585673
I was considering "likely" instead of "perhaps" but I don't have quite enough evidence for that.

>>16585657
>see a book reviewed on /sffg/
>check goodreads to see what other ppl had to say
>the /sffg/ review is at top because friended
>do the 'compare books' with /sffg/ reviewer
>agree on 2 book ratings, they have tons of mango, i've only ever read nausicaa
>why did i join the /sffg/ goodreads group

>>16585684
Sounds you did the book comparison incorrectly. Should have compared "read" shelves.

>>16585693
>>16585684
Also probably should have looked at the reviewers thread.

>>16585646
jump from the bridge dumbfuck, contrarianism is the sign of the low IQ subhuman.

>>16585657
Why do immature men obsess over the quality of their tastes and numeric scales instead of actually expressing an opinion and engaging in a discussion?
It's literally the easiest and shittiest way of faking """refinement""" and culture.

>>16585710
Refinement and culture are self-satisfied delusions.

>>16585693
no i compared our read shelves and i looked at his read shelf sorted by stars which was chock full o' 5 star mangos

>>16585733
That wouldn't be the case unless you read the manga as well as it should only show the ones where you have the same books.

>>16585673
Just this one. I agreed with a few of your other reviews, but grace of kings was shit, and I still want to find the anon who memed/shilled me into reading that utter shit years ago.

>>16585739
yes as i said i did these functions separately. compare read. looked at his read shelf sorted by stars.

>>16585752
Should have just looked at the novels shelf then.

>>16585739
You need to go back to school and train your reading comprehension. He said he compared books at first, THEN he checked the guy's read shelf by itself.

>>16585378
Stand alone caveman tragedies

>>16585748
What did you like about it?
Also, as noted
>Oftentimes it seems that how much we'll overlook the flaws of what we're engaging with is a primary determinant of how much we'll be able to enjoy ourselves

>>16585710
You sound like a pseud who larps a time gone by. You are pretending to be a gentleman.

>>16585708
Its fine if you like shit books, just stay in rebbit and stop coming in sffg like if we share your tastes. Neck yourself.

>>16585788
*didn't

>>16585804
explain why Dune is the shit book dipshit

>>16585763
because "compare" only looks at same books i like to look at their total shelves to see what they ranked as 5 star. the fact that there was a ton of manga just accentuates that our tastes are a poor match.

>>16585812
That's just how it is then.

>>16585788
>>16585805
It was low fantasy, political and just copy pasted greek mythos over a chink sprite palette. There were many other things including the infuriating women, but that's the gist. Read it years ago, can't discuss philosophy with you.

>>16585859
Do you dislike low fantasy and political?

>>16585868
I read fantasy for the fantastic. It's why i don't like GGK. His books are historical fiction, grace of kings is nearly historical too.

>>16585931
What's good fantastic fantasy.

>>16585931
Where's the cut-off for you? Is Game of Thrones too historical fiction as well?

>spend hours surfing for new fantasy fiction
>just end up ordering more volumes of toaru to fill my collection
Fuck...

>>16585986
>not just downloading the torrent or mega of all licensed official English light novels that have been scanned or have digital versions

Absolutely loves this trilogy, should I continue reading the rest?

Also, do you know of any books that would tickle my fancy given that I enjoyed Foundation so much ?

>>16586000
Asimov’s short stories were good

>>16585589
>5/5
That's a pretty ridiculous rating for a book that's basically just a retelling of the Chu–Han Contention with a thin fantasy veneer. The prose and dialogue was often stilted and wooden, though in the courtly scenes that wasn't such a problem. Most of the characters were pretty basic and uninteresting. I kind of liked how it read overall, like a semi-historical novel or book on old myths, though considering that's basically what it was, it's hard to really give it points for it. At least the sequel kind of tried to do it's own thing, though it's really weirdly paced with overly long stretches of somewhat related sidequests, and it feels like it was two books mashed together.

>>16585791
Not at all, but cool projecting.
I'm just saying that expressing why you like or dislike a book is a whole lot better than giving it a rating in stars or numbers, or saying "x is better than y".
Both just show how incompetent you are are expressing your opinions and it's the literal standard of this shitty board.

I know it's hard, but try writing more than one fucking line of text and thinking about literature in terms of "book good", "book bad", "me like it", "me don't like it".

>>16585986
>toaru
Wow, actually someone in this general with even worse taste than the sandersonfags. Then again, wouldn't surprise me if they liked that too, since you'd have to be pretty fucking autistic to enjoy any of those "characters" and the word vomit idea of what constitutes worldbuilding. Definitely both have the same terrible fights too.

>>16585791
>>16586104
See >>16586088 versus >>16585657.
One encourages discussion and the exchange of ideas. The other is just a waste of everyone's time (the guy who posted it as well).

>>16585994
I've read them all, I'm just buying to collect and reread. Yen press is fucking slow.
>>16586108
I definitely think you'd have to be autistic to really get into toaru beyond watching a few seasons of railgun.

>feelio when index was the only LN I considered getting into
I watched the first two seasons and I've lurked threads since then because boy oh boy I wanna find out what the fuck is up with IB

>>16586088
I'm a pretty ridiculous person.

>>16586113
Let's not fool ourselves. Anything we do here is a waste of everyone's time.

>>16585344
Fuck you. I'm not a fuckin Christian and you're an idiot. Suck balls fag

>>16586356
You seem upset.

>>16585646
>>16585396
>>16585804
>yet another faggot who shits on everybody else's recommendations without making any himself

>>16582271
This art is fantastic.
How can someone even image something like this? It's as if he must have peered into another dimension itself.

>>16586617
They're basically elephants.

>>16586608
Bad recs are worse than no recs.

>>16585947
I read the last asoiaf book years before grace of kings. I used to read low fantasy, Daniel Abraham, GGK, etc. I just can't stand it these days.
It's like reading general fiction, then a ghost would pop up and point you in the right direction, then back to general fiction.
I had my fill of low fantasy. It feels like you are reading literary literature (which I'm sure a lot of these low fantasy authors are aiming for, so they can be taken seriously by the literary community as a new upcoming classic).

After decades of political intrigue in books, and people irl getting more political (and bringing their shit politics into every conversation), I grew sour on the low fantasy genre (which depends largely on political intrigue). I started reading books with more magic and less politics driving it.

>>16585944
You wouldn't like it. I stopped with publishing house authors as I see they are all forced to follow a script to a certain degree. I'm using Amazon and digging through their flotsam to the gold that sunk to the bottom. If you are an outer lit snob, continue reading low fantasy, as it is the more literary genre fiction available.
Currently I'm shifting through the chink power level fantasies. They are all usually extremely fantastical. They are like a mature anime in prose form (although I'm sure it's the animes that copied from the wuxia xinaxia crowd, and not the other way round).

>>16584542
Master and Commander

>>16586711
Narrated by Patrick Tull

>>16586709
>chink power level fantasies. They are all usually extremely fantastical
How so? That's just humans doing martial arts at an extreme level.

>>16586104
>try writing more than one fucking line of text and thinking about literature in terms of "book good", "book bad", "me like it", "me don't like it".
Why? I've been here since day one. I'm not wasting anymore time on you fucks. All my blog posts about books got "tl;dr" or people just reading two sentences and using those as their basis for a counter/reply. No one is going to waste their time putting effort into their posts, only for them to end up on page 10, not anymore.

If you want effort posting, you should go elsewhere, because I'm never going back to wasting my time typing shit for no one to reply, not even the person you were replying to.
Short one /two sentences are the format this general survives on, otherwise you will just be talking to yourself.

>>16586356
You used "religion bad" as your main talking point, obviously you're a christcuck. I also see you haven't denied you're pol, fucking infiltrator pos.

>>16586749
>. I'm not wasting anymore time on you fucks.
That's a lie and you know it. You're here forever and you have to read every single post and reply to every single anon that responds to you.
You seem to have a rather high opinion of your posts with seemingly no basis as well.
Just because you've given up all hope that doesn't that ought to implore that everyone else does the same.

>>16585396
>>16586608
The anon asked what the person liked so he can recommend a tailored book.... Do you speedread or what?

>>16586767
you're such a racist that you don't think he could be anything other than a member of the christian race

>>16586781
You don't speedread? If you spend more than a couple seconds reading and considering a post then writing a couple of meaningless words in a row then you're doing it wrong.

>>16586631
But with wrist-stumps, tutle necks, rhinohorn chins and fossilized human faces.

>>16586767
Not him and not religious, but I find the whole religion-bad angle beyond tedious. Like the author is trapped in the 80s, and hasn't noticed that his side won and the expulsion of religion from daily life made no improvement in existence.

These were cool.

>>16586821
>expulsion of religion from daily life
Most people don't live in Europe.

>>16586838
Throughout the West. Even in America. If you live in certain pockets you can deny it but those pockets are shrinking in size and power.

>>16586631
That's a good point, but the weird neon light-faces that hover in front of then like masks, and the incandescent armored ghost at the bottom really intrigued me.
Plus the elephants have a weird neck with a black opal thing embedded.

I could never create something so unique and detailed. Maybe one of those qualities, but not both.

>>16586864
>certain pockets
More like anywhere outside of a major metropolitan area.

>>16586882
Ah, so you're in one of them.

>>16585646
>rage because he couldn't read through a book that other people could and enjoyed
Very poor mindset and you will never make it in life.

>>16586728
So you're saying that if I practice martial arts long and hard enough, I will be able to fly, talk to animals, swim to the depths of the ocean unaided, and survive multiple direct strikes of lightning?

>>16586780
You're the one that (you)'d me and talked about effort posting, I replied. Reply to another anons if you didn't want to hear my reply.

>>16586914
No, but there's nothing particularly fantastical about that. It's all rather mundane.

>>16586792
>religion is a race now
You christcucks are really reaching these days.

>>16586895
I completed them, that's why I know they are shit.

>>16586940
I want all your replies.

Got damn. So many books are being released in October, I'm drowning in fresh acquires.

>>16587000
Have higher standards then.

>>16585104
>Reckless
If you liked it, the fourth book came out like two weeks ago.

>>16586994
>I want all your replies' and I want your revenge
>You and me could write a bad romance
>ooohhhhh-aaaaaanooonnnnnnn
>I want all your replies' all your replies are revenge
>You and me could write a bad romance

>>16586749
>Short one /two sentences are the format this general survives on
Well, then be concise, who cares. The point I was making was about putting more effort. If any of the following are your go-to one-line replies you shouldn't bother
>It's a 6/10
>I liked it
>I didn't like it
>It's boring
>Q: Is *book* worth reading? / A: yes/no

>>16587062
the best sort of the worst romance

>>16583160
Bobiverse is a fun read. It's pretty simple but damn enjoyable.
The F.A.I.T.H. thing doesn't really show up at all as anything but "yet another corrupt earth government".
The real religious criticism comes when Bob decides to meddle with a primitive species he's found.

>>16582271
Reminder to read God's Demon and The Heart of Hell. Barlowe needs to work on his endings but the prose is gorgeous.

>>16582948
The somber elegiac tone of the first novel really is unmatched in modern fantasy. Too bad he didn't bring all the interesting ideas in the sequel to fruition.

>>16587103
The fourth book was trash.

>>16584866
Anyone? Thoughts on Stand On Zanzibar/John Brunner in general?

>>16586617
Barlowe did a lot of work in Hollywood too and the quality shows, Hellboy is the closest thing we'll get to an adaptation of his work.

>>16587166
He's great, one of the more underrated writers of the 70s.

>>16584151
There's a quite exceptional audiobook of Book of the New Sun, a newer version. When the narrator gets to Urth you can feel his voice change from a younger Severian to an older one, it's amazing.

>>16586636
I still wait your response dipshit

>>16587324
response

>>16587166
He's great - a tower of '70s pessimism. Also The Sheep Look Up.

>>16587331
I accept your concession. Next time don't talk about something you don't know anything about newfag.

>>16586963
at least he is not a pagancuck

>>16586986
Retard got filtererd.
Every.Single.Time.

>>16587339
I accept your time.

>>16587384
Thanks. I enjoy schooling retards.

>>16587157
There's a fourth book?!

>>16587542
oh, it's an audiobook exclusive.
That makes me so fucking angry, you have no idea.

>>16585393
The red knight

>>16586709
Based chinkshit reader. I think im in the same boat as you. What are your favorite bug power fantasies?
Imo reverend insanity and lord of the mysteries are the only ones that stand out as being particularly creative or memorable but most of i eat tomatoes novels are comfy.

>>16586835
Blindopraxia is head and shoulders above modern sci fi.
>yfw he links nature articles relating to all of the sci fi concepts he used in the book

>>16587594
>>16587542
Just listen to it?
You aren't missing much depending on what you liked in the first trilogy. To me, I wished I stopped at book 3. He created artificial drama so he could probably have another trilogy.
also original bob is now a furry and will probably damage that poor granny's hips

>>16587347
That's not going to be a thing, virgin (haha) mary simp. You worship your thot and bible thump elsewhere.

>>16587379
Are you seriously unironically arguing that WoT was good and not a massive waste of time?

>>16587794
No I just detest listening to things. It's too slow and I find myself thinking about other things, and missing parts of the story.

>>16587675
I only consume chinkshit that has transcended the good bad dichotomy of the webnovel plain into the amazon kindle-verse. Is reverent insanity on Amazon yet?

>>16587823
You can increase playback speed if you use smart audiobook player.

>>16587815
No I was talking about Dune

>>16587810
No one worships Mary pagancuck. How is your semen-slurping god doing btw.

>>16587830
I dont think its on amazon but just make an epub theres a chrome extension to make epubs from websites it takes like 2 clicks also you didnt mention any you liked. Starting to think youre some sort of bitch nigga

>>16587379
Why do redshit users like to come here and pedal their wares like they are fine china? They praise the most inane and trash shit and put them at the top of their charts.

I got a bus pass because my car broke down, but I've still been using it after I got my car fixed because I came to really appreciate the hour long ride to work and the hour long ride back where I can read. I mostly read short pulp books that I've picked up over the years like old doc savage books.

I've been reading this one this week though, Rolind of Meru, and it's very refreshing. Instead of presenting a power fantasy protagonist, it's centered around a very emotional, sensitive almost effeminate young man who goes on his journey to find a way to escape his fate of being thrown into violence and becoming king.

I've spent a lot of time projecting my mental images of what I imagine his kingdom of Meru to look like, and I've essentially been envisioning a heightened exaggerated fantasy version of Greco-Bactrian aesthetics of the Diadochi kingdom of Bactria, Hellenized Buddhism in Afghanistan.

>>16587960
I am waiting for your explanations retarded tourist. I know I scare you but try harder faggot.

>>16587898
>Starting to think youre some sort of bitch nigga
That I am.

I also only use Amazon because things are more cleaned up/proof read. Less grammatical errors and conflicting sentences.

>>16585470
>Wheel of Time
>2nd best
topkek my dude. it's junior high school tier trash

>>16587967
>nuh-uhh you're the rebbit

>>16585646
What a useless prick.

>>16587988
I see no explanation dumbfuck. Why are you crying underage faggot?

>>16583333
hook, line and sinker

>>16588102
Bravo!

reading this kino

>Read urban fantasy
>Protagonist is just some normal guy who gets randomly caught up in the fantasy setting
Fuck this fucking shit. Isekai-tier shit

>>16588318
Which ones? The ones i see usually start with the mc already being special.

>>16588318
How did you want it to be?

>>16587975
tell me what you like god damn this reminds me of talking to letterboxd faggots on /tv/. i am asking you for sffg recommendations in the sffg thread and youre refusing for some retarded reason. Are you worried people will shit on your taste?

What you faggots reading?

>>16588285
this looks based. i will read it.

>>16588536
Condemning the heavens
Beginning after the end
Cradle
Finishing those should last you till the end of the year .

>>16588558
thanks. already read cradle and have been looking for something similar. Im neet rn so i would be pleasantly surprised if it took me multiple months to read the other two series

>>16588536
Not that Anon but there's a shit ton of subgenres and styles in sff. If you like Malazan I'm not going to rec you The Night Circus and I wouldn't even know what to tell you because I tried and passed on grimderp.

Where is the scifi colonialism?

>>16588536
Why do you think you're entitled to personal recommendations? What do you think all the charts in the OP are for?

>>140785706
The story is called Corbin's Gore and it's in the collection called Ghouljaw and Other Stories.

>>16588987
thanks!
:)

>>16588993
Want a link for it? Epub file?

>>16589019
Already found it.

>>16589043
Good. Now read it and try not to cry.

>>16587891
>according to a kike

Hey dudes, if there are many styles defined in the cyberpunk universe, in which literary works can I find the styles described here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlyDJVYqfpA&feature=youtu.be&t=3

>>16589107
>kike
wow man, what the fuck

What's /sffg/ opinion on 40k's books?

>>16589115

>>16587891
What is catholicism you fucking retard?

>>16589108
the more cyberpunk trailers i see, the less hyped i get. but basically
>golden age sci fi
>dsytopia, lots to choose from, or select '70s shit
>honor harrington
>anything current

>>16589122
For me it's hard to imagine any logic behind the scale of the iconic armors in WH40k. Same thing happens with WoW and the way I imagined stuff in the Way of Kings. Padded clunky shit that makes no sense and probably a lot of noise to move around.
But after seeing those Antares CGI shorts, I was kinda interested in it. It's probably shit (literal who writers who grew up comics and tabletop games, etc.) so I'm hesitant.

>>16586767
You're a ball gargling shallow fag. I don't know why you are accusing me of this things, but please. Get some help. Psychiatric help.
I don't care about /pol/.

>>16588538
The Prestige

>>16584448
Don't mind me, just counting down days till the interim novel he wrote in the 3 and a half months before the last door stop he finished went to the publishers is released first.

I like most of The First Law books

I like 3/5 of the Lightbringer books

I do not like Dune

I do not like anything with the name Sanderson on it

I do not and never will like anything in first person

Tell me how based I am, go ahead

>>16589434
I too have aversion for first person. It always seems to be more childish with quirky humor. Third person POV like in TSOIAF is better. Normal third person narration is the best.
You're not based for having a taste in books, sorry.

>>16589470
first person is unironically incel

>>16589470
>It always seems to be more childish with quirky humor.
Read better books.
>>16589597
It's the best perspective for "conversing" with the main character and the author.

>>16589611
>Read better books.
Wow. You're so wise. So give me three titles to support your 'argument'

>>16589434
>>16589470
>>16589597
>they pull this shit in the /wolfegeneral/

>>16589122
I read the first 3 horus heresy and the eisenhorn omnibus which is 3 books I think. I never played any games or knew anything about lore. HH was mostly for background and they were decent. I vaguely remember some tacticool stuff. Eisenhorn was an action/mystery and you don't really need any knowledge to read it. I think in the 40k collection it's considered one of the better written books. Basically this guy goes around with his team trying to solve a chaos mystery and lots of of fighting and sleuthing occurs

>>16589746
Ok. Forgot about Severian. But he's only interesting cause he's full of shit.

>>16589797
Get the fuck out of here

>>16589644
Reverse psychology don't work for recs. Either ask for recommendations or stfu. You fucks thinking you're clever asking for books really piss me off.

>>16589850
No.

>>16589865
Ok, then. Recommend me some good books with first person narrattive buddy.

>>16589883
How dense are you?

>>16589917
Still waiting. Why can't you answer simple question is astonishing. Just give me some titles. I'm ready to be in wrong since I'm reading only bad books. Recommend me something good and prove me wrong or stfu already.

>>16589933
Not that Anon but the Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny are great first person.

>>16587692
Lmaoing so hard at all the filtered plebs bashing it.
Though it's sad that in some countries most of these plebs might have been filtered not by the book pe se, but by the translation. Guess it's silly to expect a talented translator who will check all scientific stuff instead of inventing/cutting things as they please in a 3rd world shithole ruled by nepotism.

>>16588538
Mistborn

>>16589644
I was referring mostly to outer lit literary fiction, thinking an intelling and BROAD reader would understand there's nothing necessarily bad about this sort of narrator, now I see it's just another genrefag, but okay.

BotNS & Short Sun / Wizard Knight / Latro in the Mist (Gene Wolfe in general)
The Left Hand of Darkness
Blindsight
The Sorcerer's Mask
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (Starship Troopers too)

If your only experience is The Black Company, The Martian and Kingkiller Chronicles you'll probably find it lacking.
Also note I said "better" books, so mileage may vary. And all the examples are definitely not childish or quirky. There are also many short stories and classic fantasy/SF (isn't the Invisible Man 1PP as well?) so that tone you complained about just wouldn't be there.
Has my argument been substantiated? Funnily enough you didn't provide examples or even a reason for your own opinion.
I'm not this guy you were replying to btw >>16589933.

>>16587963
>sensitive almost effeminate young man who goes on his journey to find a way to escape his fate of being thrown into violence and becoming king
Damn, did I write this book? Love this sort of character. Will check it out, thanks.
Also buses are comfy as hell, especially when half-empty. Good for you, not falling for the 'riding bus = yikes, poorfag' meme.

>>16588691
In anime

>>16588318
Here's a protag you'd like, pleb.

>>16589130
I don't give a shit about catholicism. Even then your are completely wrong retard.

>>16589131
>the more cyberpunk trailers i see
this sentence alone proves your are a shill faggot. I have read this exact sentence hundred times already. How much are chinks paying you?

>>16590092
>Funnily enough you didn't provide examples or even a reason for your own opinion.
You didn't ask. And I said that I just prefer other narrations cause first person usually makes protag childish and most wirtiers don't know how to properly utilized it like f.e. Wolfe. Never said there's no good books, but I wanted examples so I could maybe check them. So thanks for examples.
I've never read The Black company or Kingkiller and read all your examples except Le Guin. I just fuckin prefer third person. You don't have to think the same.

>>16590137
Why are you so obsessed with this GTA reskin? Are you underage?

>>16590223
Why are you shilling for chinks retard?

>>16590124
>>16590250
Please learn basic English before shitting up the thread further, ESL newfag filth.

>>16590329
no argument retard. Does it hurt being exposed?

>>16590337
I'm not him. Kill yourself as an apology to your deadbeat parents. You are nothing.

>>16590379
keep crying nigger. At least I am not white knighting faggots on imageboard.

>>16583971
Brainlet take if I've ever seen one.

>>16589933
I ain't giving you illiterate shit any recs, get fucked

>>16590215
Just read Memoirs of Hadrian

I accidentally have two audible credits. Anyone got any recommendations?

>>16582271
Thoughts on "We" by Zamyatin?

>>16591412
I liked it

>>16591412
It exists.

>>16591412
There was a group discussion about it a few months back, might want to check the archive

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4H5yOlbkaw
>Prologue is free
>narrated by Kramer and Kate
Man, this shit's is tempting just for Kramer's voice alone

why should I read long ass fantasy series when I can get much more stimulation from non-fiction?

>>16591720
You shouldn't, no one's making you. Only make sure you choose actually good nonfiction. Wasting time on someone's poor research/straight up lies/propaganda is even worse than wasting it on pulp and mary sue crap, imo.

>>16585344
Everyone I dont like is /pol/. Lol maybe they are the chosen board if you guys keep burning them up.

>>16591879
Best Logic 2020

It all comes tumblin' down.

>>16589947
so is A Night in the Lonesome October

>>16591720
don't read long ass fantasy series.
read sci-fi novels of appropriate length.

What do you guys think of Time's top 100 fantasy books?
>https://time.com/collection/100-best-fantasy-books/

Predictably, it's a shitfest and I don't mean to be racist or ageist or anything, but if I were Neil Gaiman and GRRM, I wouldn't have lent my name if I knew in advance the panel was going to be so fucking terrible and biased towards modern fantasy.
They didn't even include Jack Vance for fuck's sake. No John Crowley. No Suzanne Clarke. No Dunsany. They listed like 3 or 4 different Harry Potter books.

If they do the same for SF, they better include Gene Wolfe or I'm going to riot.

"A breezy delight" - me

>>16589122
Eisenhorn is a very good series.
I read A Thousand Sons and the Ahriman omnibus and they're alright but nothing over the top, good if you want more psyker stories/adventures.

I believe the op has a chart in the mega link for /tg/ recommended books.

>>16593038
>Megan
You'll need very good justification, anon.

>>16592813
Funny, to me it looks very biased towards old books. Like who cares about half of those childrens books and pulp nowadays.

>>16592813
Swordspoint rules so I'm happy with any list that includes it but some of the modern stuff is outright strange to include, I've actually read most of it because I read a lot of new releases and there's some weird choices there.
Like first of all I 100% would have expected Jonathan Strange given the tone of the list

Black Tides of Heaven is outright bad imo
Song of Blood and Stone is insanely forgettable, I actually had to open calibre to check I've read it. And the story is just a boring romance, there's 500 books a year that do the same thing.
Empire of Sand is the same romance thing but it's also overly long as well.
Trail of Lightning is loads of fun and has great worldbuilding but it's not a mindblowing book or anything it's just fun action. The author even recognises this because her new series is a much more obvious push at having a "modern classic".
Again for Rage of Dragons, loads of fun but it's just a writer taking conventions from anime/xiaxia and applying them to a world with a bit of colonialism there for your detail, very weird fit with the tone they went for with the rest of the list.
Kuang is alright but no need for more than 1 from the series
Wrong Pratchett book if you're doing just one + good omens
Jemisin isn't that good but even if you think she is the choices are weird. Thousand Kingdoms is a pretty boring romance and Stone Sky is an utter failure of an ending to a trilogy, should've just had 5th season.
For balance the Marlon James, Night Circus, Jade City and Queen of the Conquered are all really good books imo.

A bit cowardly on the classics too and if you're gonna go back to Le Morte d'Arthur you should have Journey to the West at the very least and there's loads of better choices for mid 20th century that what they went with.

>>16593062
It's a quick fun read that actually lands the ending reveals and (mainly because you could leave it all out and the book would still be fun).
Also I'm on a real trend of reading grumpy prick protagonists at the moment so it's formed a nice duo with Novik's new book

>>16593085
>For balance the Marlon James, Night Circus, Jade City and Queen of the Conquered are all really good books imo.
>Marlon James
>Africa and LGBT tags, 3.4 on goodreads
>Jade Circus
>Canadian woman
>Queen of the Conquered
>young adult revenge story featuring racism
Anon I...

>>16593085
>Swordspoint rules
What's good about it anyway? The premise seemed quite interesting but it was painfully slow. Instead of some chick causing all the drama, it was about that fucking unrealistic not a prince gay lover and muh political intrigue.
I seem to remember a huge emphasis on the city (generic and dull) and the politics, clearly inspired by 18th century aristocratic degeneracy and twisted take on dueling and trial by combat.
I couldn't get past the half of that book.

>>16593126
>3.4 on goodreads
that means its good lol, all of the goodreads power reviewers got filtered into DNFing it

>>16593085
wrote all this out when I should've just looked at what they excluded
Like how does a north american fantasy list with a modern focus miss Chalion

How good is the Lyonesse trilogy? Is it accessible to a brainlet?

>>16593038
The second book in this series is one of my faves

>>16592813
how the hell does Watership Down qualify as fantasy?

>>16593209
It's super comfy, like a fairy tale. You might find some of it slightly YA-ish though.
>accessible
Yeah, why wouldn't it be? It's as straight forward as they come.

>>16593240
It's about rabbits who live in human style societies, how is it not fantasy?

>>16593244
I remember trying to read something else from him (Dying Earth) before and it was kinda difficult.
Comfy how, is there no conflict? Low stakes?

>>16593247
would you call Toy Story fantasy?

>>16583112
Gary stu? He barely does anything...

>>16593252
Lyonesse is probably less florid and more plot driven, so it should be easier to follow it.
If you're that ESL who had trouble with the vocabulary and turns of phrase, that I exchanged some passages with a couple months ago which I thought had beautiful prose, then yeah, you'll probably find it more accessible.

It's comfy for the writing itself and a mostly clear distinction between good and evil. World building is not autistic but having the map on your phone or at hand might be useful. Even though terrible stuff happens the scale is larger and the message is things will ultimately pass anyway. It's the kind of thing you'd enjoy if you liked the middle parts of Le Morte D'Arthur (i.e., before he gets the sword or before he begets Mordred and dies), but with a slower pace.

I want a hardcover copy of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea written in a good translation, and a cover that doesn't look like it was drawn by a child or a failed graphical artist. Where?

>>16583971
ok, so just finished the second part of the book. The commander's weird story about meeting a mysterious woman in a simulation, and having an ongoing sexual relationship for years, And honestly it was kind of boring me with all the military talk about old battles and action sequences and graphic descriptions of sex.(fucking gross)

But it got good in the end, because of how weird it all ended up being. with the transformations, and questioning what's real or fake, and strange time hops. There was some stupid anime shit in there too, but I'm willing to overlook that for the intrigue of it all. I'm left more confused now than before. But I guess that's kind of the point. It's still too early to answer questions. I'll just have to wait and see what it's all about.

>>16590576
What makes you say that?
Sorry Hyperion isn't giving me a transcendent experience so far. We can't all be fivehead like yourself.

>>16591720
You shouldn't. Anything that's longer than a trilogy (although plenty of them are unnecessarily stretched out too) is a colossal waste of time and will make you a sunk-cost shithead trying to pawn the dreck you read on some other poor sap so you can feel less like a dumbass when you know others have equally wasted their time. The only exceptions are series of loosely connected episodic adventures in the same setting that function fine on their own, like Discworld, Conan, etc.

>>16587976
The Lies of Locke Lamora might have scored higher, if the second book wasn't such a massive drop in quality. If you compare overall enjoyment over the series, WoT wins. But sure, if you compare book 1 to book 1, Lamora wins.

Assassin's Apprentice is similar. Except it was book 3 where the quality dropped off.

>>16593977
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo

>>16593169
Yeah, I'd trust a more honest review rating like that and give it a shot than waste time on any of the crap in the 4-5 range on goodreads without first consulting several reliable reviewers.

>>16593977
How big is the dick of the trap in your pic?

>>16593977
You can just tell he's not going to like the second book (like most people though).

>>16594049
I'm plenty old. My hairline reminds me of that every time I look in the mirror.

>>16594052
Now THIS user is underrage.

>>16594066
I just don't like reading sex scenes, unless it's explicitly erotica. And then I have to be horny, and it has to be about my specific fetish. Other than that, it's gross.

Speculative fiction >science fiction
This is a fact

>>16594078
Asexual much

>>16594150
No, definitely not that. It's just that sex graphic scenes add very little to a story. If they can be said to add anything at all.
Hell, you know what post-nut clarity is right? That moment after you orgasm when you're suddenly disgusted by yourself and your actions? It's kind of like that. But pre-nut. I guess you could call it pre-horny clarity. When you're not in the mood, sex is just gross.

>>16594230
No, I don't think you should feel that way unless it's something actually disgusting, as your particular fetish may well be, or someone who has internalized that sex is inherently disgusting.

>>16594230
Sex between hot people or describing/showing genuine passion is not gross, you puritan faggot.
>It's just that sex graphic scenes add very little to a story.
This incel meme has gone too far.

>>16594140

>>16594328
t.sciencecuck nerd

>>16594140
Science fiction is a type of speculative fiction.

>>16594282
Well it's a common feeling. You should look it up. A lot of people talk about it. I figured it would be common knowledge. So common in fact, that I was afraid my telling you about it would sound condescening.

>>16594314
It is gross. Nothing puritan about it. If you knew me, you would know I'm far from prudish. In fact, I'm one of those people who believes that porn should be classified as art. But at the same time, reading about people fuck in the middle of a sci-fi novel does nothing but put the imagery of naked bodies exchanging fluids in my head. What good is that? I'm not going to fap to it. The detailed descriptions aren't moving the plot along. It's not particularly aesthetic either. Unless I guess if you're just a sex addicted voyeur, always ready to go.

I know you guys are elitu readeringus, but I want to read some comfy fantasy stuff. Think generic dungeons and dragons stuff with a party setting off on an adventure. Give me something like that... I beg you.

>>16594513
Literally just read the various 100s of d&d based novels from wotc then.

>>16594513
Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms are actual D&D novels

>>16594499
I said there was no reason to feel it, not that it didn't exist.

>>16594513
Most of the mainline Dragonlance trilogies are great.

>>16594499
You should be flooded with endorphins after cooming. I agree that I highly prefer erotica over sex scenes but I never feel disgust after faps.

>>16594561
>I said there was no reason to feel it
Someone would only say that if they didn't believe it to be as common as it is. You've never got done fapping, and then immediately close all the porn tabs? Like, that stuff is hard to look at right after.

>>16594623
Sure, I close them but that's only because I'm done with them. I don't feel disgusted though.

>>16594623
I'll look at something else for awhile but I won't close everything because I usually want to refap after firstfap.

>>16588538
I finished Demon Chains and I'm going to start The Company of Seven (the final in its trilogy) next while I hunt for my next trash on the side.

>>16594513
The city and the dungeon .

>>16589434
You're a cringe faggot

>>16591412
Inferior to "Wuz" and the final book of the trilogie "Kangz"

>>16595826 ?-???

>>16595830
Are you asking for recs about simulations?

>>16595830
William D Arand

>>16584180

>>16595992
Who /kickstarterleatherbound/ friends here? Everyone get their posters?

>>16588538
The Survivalist, it’s a pretty Based series that started in the 80’s and iirc it’s still being written, basically post nuclear war fiction but the main character is every 80’s action hero crammed into one duel-wielding, 24 hour sunglasses wearing, Motorcycle riding Jew and Communist Befriender/Seducer Son of a bitch who’s still looking for his wife and kids 8 (possibly more but that’s as far as I’m in) books in

Any book with unwilling MC as a hero/leader? Think Perrin when he went back to the village.

>>16596881
The postman has that in spades, both of the MCs of the first Emberverse trilogy have it too

>>16595861
YES

>>16585420
>Lucifer's Hammer
sucked huge ass

>>16583112
There's a really good BBC radio adaption which I prefer to the book.

>>16597161
Was a great book. You're just a brainlet.

What books have really good body horror?

>>16597161
Both authors are so fucking overhyped

>>16597166
disgusting

>>16585420
>wall of text
What did /sffg/ mean by this?

>>16597171
Clive Barker

>>16596881
Thomas Covenant

>>16596990
>>16597285
Thanks

A new thread
>>16597767
A new thread

>>16591720
>why shouldn't I be based when I can be a souless redditor?