/lit/ - Literature

yeah
dont like it
simple as

>please give me something to make me feel better about my degenerate lifestyle
do you ever stop to think that you wouldn't need that sort of approval if you were happy?
either way, like in any neet recs thread, Notes from the Underground
sage

>>16581953
I'll give you one:
The endgoal the majority of humanity is currently working towards is planetary ecocide.

>>16581958
are there actually people who are that cucked in the head that they feel bad if not working lol

There are anti-work anarchists like Bob Black but I think work is an essential part of human and arguably animal life and I think the only legitimate anti work argument to be made is along the lines of "I acknowledge work as a necessity for the good of the whole but I selfishly refuse to take part", which I think is far more coherent and practical than any moralizing universalist post-work position out there.

Chose to be the outsider - whether that means you are above or below the common man - and refuse to go to work. You will be surprised how easy it is to get away with.

>>16581958
>degeneracy
society has already degenerated to complete atomization and relegating everyone to wagies, like you

>>16581953
western economies are quickly moving to a kind of "post labor" model. all value being created now is through technology. the type of work that actually compensated labor properly was manufacturing in a union. both unions and manufacturing are basically entirely gone, so fuck working, you'll never received fair value in exchange for your labor now.

Working for yourself = good
Working for "DA MAN" = bad

>>16581953
nazis liked it therefore its bad

>>16582061
but how it currently is, getting work is an impulse from the self, you aren't being employed, you employ yourself. If the state of work is supposed to be natural, then why do I have to make a conscious choice to find work, which most of the time isn't aimed at the work itself but at the money?

>>16582083
Wrong. Even working for yourself has just become a scam in order to offload R&D costs to entrepreneurs. The sole aim of tech start ups now is to raise their profile enough to be bought by google. In the past, companies had to spend money on their own R&D and foot the bill for both failed ideas and successful ones. Now they can let individuals eat the cost of failed ideas and only buy out the successful ones. Every aspect of the modern economy is rigged.

Are there any arguments for being pro-work other than doing your (little and ultimately meaningless) bit to contribute to the system?
Some people like to bring up religion, particularly that its the human condition after being cast from eden. But thats protestantism not Christianity.

>>16582069
Wow I'm a software engineer and just about everything in that pic is wrong for me.

> respected job with clear ladder of advancement (if I choose)
> new interesting problems that need solving every day
> I sleep 8-9 hours every day and feel refreshed. Usually work about 30 hours a week (sometimes less since COVID)
> I don't commute. Job has gone remote since COVID. Looks like it'll stay that way
> I have no debt/mortgage/finances to worry about. I moved in with my parents since COVID. I give them $500/month so I don't feel guilty and help pay groceries
> It's true that I don't have amazing relationships with my coworkers but who cares? I've friends outside of work
> I do fake a happier persona of myself but it's not that exaggerated. Nobody likes working with a dick
> I have 0 stress. Life is good and easy for me
> My mom makes me healthy, nutritious meals
> I have 1 cup of coffee in the morning every day. No smoking/alcohol (1 beer with my dad and brother on special occasions)
> No daydreams here. Recently took a 6 month sabbatical to travel around Central/South America and surf, learn Spanish, and hookup with latina cuties
> Not doing anything on the weekends is true but that's because I injured my foot surfing. Recovering from surgery as we speak (btw my job provides comprehensive health insurance. I paid a total of $100; USA fag)

I make ~$200k/year and can do this as long as I like. Sure i'll probably retire within the next decade, but it will be my own choice when I do and I'll be able to afford to do the things I want with money that I earned.

No judgement on the NEET life if that's what you really want, but there are other ways to find happiness and fulfillment in this world.

>>16582035
Good. Nature birthed us. It is our right to unbirth it.

>>16582046
Yeah. What even is their endgame

Work is good for you. Easy or hard stuff, all depends on your effort and skills.
Jobs are shit though.

>>16582133
We are so far away from ending Nature that it's funny.
Only thing we're gonna be ending is our own species. Losers, the lot of us. Nonviable.

>>16581953
yes, being a lazy fuck

>>16582128
Quite based anon, enjoy yourself .

>Its not at all weird that the word “work” immediately refers to “employment activities for the accumulation of legal tender”

>>16582128
I feel happy for you anon, but you should realize that not everyone is a first worlder or works a comfy job like that.

Anti work is based post leftism

>>16582128
Consider yourself fortunate. Despite the salary I absolutely hated being a software engineer. Could only tolerate a few years of it before I quit for good.

>>16582169
What a moralfag argument. Like a serf in the middle ages who would cuck out to his landlord by working harder. What if I enjoy being lazy and the tendency of my human life is to maximize comfort and minimize work. Work hinders your true human potential.

>>16582285
Yup, they're making a virtue of necessity. They think wage slavery is their only option in life (and maybe it is) so they cope by saying work is good.

>>16581953
Gnosticism.

>>16582128
>No daydreams here. Recently took a 6 month sabbatical to travel around Central/South America and surf, learn Spanish, and hookup with latina cuties
Nice LARP, faggot

>>16582061
>"I acknowledge work as a necessity for the good of the whole but I selfishly refuse to take part"

Working for the good of the whole is, also, selfish, i.e. egoistic -- even working for yourself is. Just as emotionally-tied to feeling good about working [and helping the whole] and feeling good about sustaining yourself. So, I wouldn't frame it as "selfishly" when work and anti-work are both selfish.

But, people are still tied to the notion of selfishness as inherently-negative.

>>16581957
fpbp

>>16582046
I have a friend like this. I think the constant working from age 18 has given him no time for learning how to spend time alone and enjoy his day. Even on his day off he seeks the "busy" of his work day by asking people to hang out and spending his whole day out, often getting drunk in the process. He has no idea how people who dont work can fill up their days without going into depressive spirals

>>16581953
someone once said that mental illness is largely a racket in that anyone that doesn't want to work 40 hours a week for their entire life is said to be mentally ill or might force themselves to do which would make them actually mentally ill
basically, its the idea that society decides what is mentally ill and its often at the behest of "capitalism"
I don't necessarily buy into the entire "capitalism BAD" meme but whoever said this definitely did

>>16583411
And he’ll get sent to the gulag like the rest of the neets. There will be a lot of work to do, you see.

>>16583536
Most disability handed out is not for mental illness you fucking idiot

if they give you free money then why should you work?

>>16583565
I realize that, retard, but the guy still had a point

>>16582069
I'd rather work than be maintained by a growing diaspora of wagies that indirectly pay for my welfare. I'd rather be a drone ant than a leech.

>>16582046
When you're not a parasite you have a deeply rooted need to be useful to society

>>16584026
Society can suck on my one testicle

>>16584188
I really hope this image is bait

>>16584188
Tesla was a gambling whore who couldn't handle his money.

>>16584188
Capitalism would be based if they made it illegal to inherit wealth. Then it'd be closer to a meritocracy.

>>16581953
Work is good. Jobs are lame.

>>16584026
Is there anything more deplorable than a slave who has internalised his servitude, not only externally enslaved, but also internally.

At least have enough soul and fire in your veins to say that you don't like it, rather than trying to justify it because of some strange over-socialised inclination to not be a "parasite"

>>16582108
Hard physical labor is good. Go work outside, build an elaborate garden and tend to a flock and a herd. Butcher your own food and harvest your own fruits. Only in this way can you be free, only in this way can you achieve autonomy and only in this way can you say you lived a life of honesty.

>>16584227
I hope you know the children of the rich tend to burn through fortunes in mere months if the man managed to keep his fortune, or even grow it, he deserves.

>>16584250
Of course I dislike it, there is nothing in this world that has any worth and that isn't frustrating or hard. This is precisely what gives work value. But you may be too young to understand that, keep masturbating to anime and achieve nothing while thinking you hold some kind of special wiseness (you don't, every retard under the sun has once thought what you think)