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16559870 No.16559870 [Reply] [Original]

Ok, so /lit/ hates Houellebecq, but how can you deny many of his conclusions? Especially in Platform.

>> No.16559885

his conclusions are fine but his style gets grating and corny after a while. he needs a new gimmick, he is smart enough to not write this blackpilled shit all the time

>> No.16559907

>>16559885
The conclusions are pretty damn blackpilled though.

>> No.16559943

>>16559870

>/lit/ hates Houellebecq

News to me. The big three are love, hate, and indifference. It is evident that /lit/ is not indifferent to Houellebecq (the true opposite of love), but this is a banality which leaves open the possibility of the OP's assertion.

I've been browsing /lit/ regularly for about five years and although there are regular critical posts >>16559885 and shitposts (pro and con) about the basics of his work and personal life, I haven't noticed a sustained, apparently sincere dislike of him or his work as, for example, obtains with Rand and Russell, two of the board's established punching bags. It's more like "Okay he's gross but the goblin has a point about sex and all". Collectively, the board's userbase have the capacity to register/appreciate incel-dom, bullshit jobs and the stupidities of contemporary life (regardless of whatever political spin individuals may want to put on same), and this prevents them from outright rejecting Houellebecq-witness the qualification of the FP. OTOH he is a negative goblin which is naturally off-putting after a while.

It's more like "okay he has a point but still".

>> No.16559957

>>16559943
I like him fine.

>> No.16560118

>>16559943
I made two threads in the past that got completely shit on. It seemed to me, based on that limited dataset, that he was hated, but I'm happy to be wrong here. I know /lit/'s taste can fluctuate somewhat based on what time it is.

>> No.16560230

>>16560118
The hatred you saw is more to do with the fact that it is taken for granted that he is liked.

>> No.16560392

>>16560118

It seems to me that Houllebecq is one of the board's standard memes, along with Deleuze, Guenon, Wittgenstein, and other continentals. The basic idea is for anglophone users to demonstrate awareness of continentals, esp. frogs and the odd german, to indicate well-roundedness: "See I'm not just another stupid American". /lit/ itself is a place where young men can pic up on such cultural cues and internalize them, sparring with them. It happens that Houellebecq really does speak to the current generation, to a point, hence my observational defense of the board. Now, this is all fashion and posturing, which would probably explain the negative replies you got (by the simple fact that he's still alive, Houellebecq is a hot commodity, and it's fun to shit on him). In other words, once someone is popular, the done thing is to tear them back down. The eternal 4chan/hipster/contrarian impulse.

>> No.16560435

>>16560392
Did it ever occur to you that is frog and krauts posting those people themselves, or whoever else, or are you incapable of viewing anything except through some critique of America and anglos.

>> No.16560554

>>16560435

Dumb post which says less about me than about you. Although it's reasonable (in principle) to suppose that such former discussion occurs here, this manifestly is not a primary space for same. It's a primarily English language website most frequented by Americans et al (Pace /int), and so forth. And they are regularly obliged to make use of English when they choose to post on this website.

>> No.16560562

>>16560554
It's not reasonable at all since half of any thread about various countries literatures is people like you screeching about 'anglos'

>> No.16560585

>>16560554
>et al (Pace /int), and so forth
Holy pseud...

>> No.16560588

>>16560562

You are either confused or posting in bad faith with respect to current circumstances. That said, I get and also don't care that you are referring to trends in other threads. Again here I haven't been "screeching", but even so I wonder how you could confuse me with those others.

>> No.16560594

>>16560585
They're being used properly, grow courage and be older than twenty.

>> No.16560615

>>16560588
Your post was fine I guess, you're not screeching, I am just butthurt by the constant wave of retards acting like this is /int/ and they can see people's flags. They'll attribute to americans or anglos, or sometimes other countries, completely absurd things out of nowhere. I know for a fact that at least Spanish, German, and French speakers are common here and you often see Portuguese, sometimes Russian, etc.

I mean do you not think that quite a lot of the wellbeck threads are probably frogs or at least french speakers

>> No.16561157

>>16559870
Hating anything French is always and forever based, there needs to be no explanation, proof, or any other sort of justification. France is arguably the worst shithole of Europe in terms of its people, and nothing of worth has come out of that god forsaken Mordor for centuries. Midwits shilling for Houellebecq Sartre Deleuze or other faggots are usually just naive people who do not understand that French InTelLeCtUaLs just use their washed up metaposh discourse to sound smart, and in the end say nothing new that has not been said before. /thread

>> No.16561163

>>16560118
Your mistake in general is posting when the mutts are on. Try EU times.

>> No.16562264

>>16559943
This guy is right, OP.
Houellebecq is ma noir.

>> No.16562281
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>>16559870
i like the one where the depressed guy goes to supermarche and buys a frozen meal and then reveals he wants have sex with underage girls

>> No.16563038

>>16560392
This sounds like major projection.

>> No.16563071

>Conclusions
He's a novelist, not a poltard 'theorist'.

>> No.16563155

As a character, Houellebecq is the person most people wish they could be : witty, learnt and able to truly speak their mind without fear.
He is able to talk about personal things that some can't even admit to themselves.