/lit/ - Literature

>>16552595
Yes

>"Even the loftiest philosophy of the Europeans, the idealism of reason, as it is set forth by Greek philosophers, appears in comparison with the abundant light and vigor of Oriental idealism, like a feeble Promethean spark in the full flood of heavenly glory of the noonday sun—faltering and feeble, and ever ready to be extinguished."
- Friedrich von Schlegel (1772 – 1829)

>"When we read with attention the poetical and philosophical monuments of the East, above all, those of India, which are beginning to spread in Europe, we discover there many a truth, and truths so profound, and which make such a contrast with the meanness of the results at which the European genius has sometimes stopped, that we are constrained to bend the knee before the philosophy of the East, and to see in this cradle of the human race the native land of the highest philosophy."
- Victor Cousin (1792 – 1867)

>"It is impossible to read the Vedanta, or the many fine compositions in illustration of it, without believing that Pythagoras and Plato derived their sublime theories from the same fountain with the sages of India."
- Sir William Jones ( 1746 – 1794)

>"Vedanta is the most sublime of all philosophies, and the most comforting of all religions. If philosophy is meant to be a preparation for a happy death, or Euthanasia, I know of no better preparation for it than the Vedanta philosophy."
>"I spend my happiest hours in reading Vedantic books. They are to me like the light of the morning, like the pure air of the mountains - so simple, so true, if once understood."
- Max Muller (1823 – 1900)

>"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial…"
- Henry David Thoreau (1817 – 1862)

>(The Bhagavad Gita is) "The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical song existing in any known tongue ....perhaps the deepest and loftiest thing the world has to show."
- Wilhelm von Humboldt (1767 – 1835)

>"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882)

>"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death. "
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)

>>16552614
No anon, I think /pol/cucks spawned from a fat retard's pussy know better than them.

The Upanishads are not philosophy any more than Hesiod's poems are.

>>16552614
>t. retard

>>16552631
the Upoonishads are just crypto-buddhist drivel

>>16552595
Very disrespectful and doesn’t say anything. Why not make a proper critique?

>>16552711
NPCddhist cope

>Patrick Olivelle gives the following chronology for the early Upanishads, also called the Principal Upanishads:[52][21]
>The Brhadaranyaka and the Chandogya are the two earliest Upanishads. They are edited texts, some of whose sources are much older than others. The two texts are pre-Buddhist; they may be placed in the 7th to 6th centuries BCE, give or take a century or so.[53][22]
>The three other early prose Upanisads—Taittiriya, Aitareya, and Kausitaki come next; all are probably pre-Buddhist and can be assigned to the 6th to 5th centuries BCE.
>Stephen Phillips places the early Upanishads in the 800 to 300 BCE range. He summarizes the current Indological opinion to be that the Brhadaranyaka, Chandogya, Isha, Taittiriya, Aitareya, Kena, Katha, Mundaka, and Prasna Upanishads are all pre-Buddhist and pre-Jain, while Svetasvatara and Mandukya overlap with the earliest Buddhist and Jain literature.[18]

>>16552723
This

>>16552614
based

>>16552595
Hinduism probably

Buddhism is unequivocally based

>>16552595
The Bhagavad Gita is sick. But ultimately, all philosophy including science is ‘retard shit’ depending on the perspective you take. It’s not going to make you enlightened if that’s what you want...

>>16552724
thanks for taking the bait guenonfag

>>16552751
this^

Buddhism is Indian's greatest treasure

>>16552724
>guenonfag cherrypicking citations from wikipedia again
>still hasn't read a real book

lmao, you'd think you would at least graduate from wikipedia at some point

>>16552754
This post is retard shit, you can't argue otherwise since that's my perspective

>>16552595
Upanisads are based. So are Buddhist and Tantric Sutras. I’m particular to Nepalese Buddhist writings and their influence from Bön. Their is a jewel like brilliance to understanding all things as both no-thing a manifestation of God’s mind. That’s why there is a beauty in the filth, realizing that God moves in everything, even the poorest most abject or the wild devotee covered in crematorial ashes, meditating upon a corpse. This aligns in a way with Christian crypt practices like the Capucin monastic practices. But the Western view attaches so much importance to objects, whereas the Eastern view appreciates their impermanence.

>>16552813
Apologize for my poor grammar and unedited post. Here is vājrāyoginī desu

>>16552614
Of course German Idealist sperglords agree with Indian philosophy, you idiot.

>>16552813
>I’m particular to Nepalese Buddhist writings and their influence from Bön
Pic related is from Nepal as well, although Shaktist/Shaivite Tantra rather than Buddhist, I recently obtained a copy

>>16552614
>krauts and anglos love pajeets

>>16552614
litterally just copypasta a lot of quotes that barely says anything about the actual systems and just giving them a vaguely positive aphoristic congratulations.

i could litterally do the same with christianity or “the mystic east”

>>16552614
basado

>>16552988
Very interested in Shaktist/Shaivite Tantra. I very much enjoyed Svoboda’s Aghora series, beautiful illustrations by Robert Beer.

My ex was deep into the practice of this stuff and let’s say it gets a little far out ;)

No, and you're a literal unironic pseudointellectual if you reject any region's philosophy and religion. Like, you are actually a retard who thinks they're intelligent.

Having said that, and as someone who is into Buddhism, if you're just looking at Dharmic religions, or ANY religion or religious complex for that matter, as an all-encompassing lifestyle replacement for low-church American Protestantism ala Guenonfag or Ken Wheeler (>implying they're not literally the same guy) then you're literally unironically doing it wrong. Outside of Abrahamic religion, religion is viewed as being a spectrum that takes up some aspect of your life, with only the most fervent ascetics and devout worshipers actually giving "100%" of themselves to one single thing. Unless you're becoming an actual monk or something, being "a Buddhist" or "a Hindu", or even "a Confucian" as a Westerner is just silly. Being "a practitioner of Hindu/Buddhist/Confucian traditions" is much more apt, and is literally how the religions in question are practiced in Asia.

And no, to the e-tradcath reading this who recoils at the idea of religion as being anything other repeatedly redoing the Protestant Reformation, this is not "LARP". What you're doing is even lower than LARP, as you turn religion and philosophy into a fucking capeshit movie.

>>16552614
I read the Gita and it was just another piece of Bronze Age mystical garbage

>>16553051
>Outside of Abrahamic religion, religion is viewed as being a spectrum that takes up some aspect of your life, with only the most fervent ascetics and devout worshipers actually giving "100%" of themselves to one single thing.
idk man you seem to be just as reactionary as the “e-trads” you are talking about. i think making a solid split is kinda gay and a full on bohddist could put all of life in a buhddist context as a christian monk could theirs. reading sources and talking to actual regular christians religion is usually also seen as just part of life too.

>>16552595
Isn't most of the Hindu religion created by Northern Indians?

>"poos stupid!"
>"Why, may I ask?"
>"duhhhh because they poo looooooooool"
Go back.

>>16552751
>>16552762
Buddhism is life denial nihilist horseshit.

>>16553155
>nihilist
>emphasizes the importance of compassionate action

pick one

>>16553515
Westerners trying to make grand statements about Eastern traditions is always a bucket of absolute cringe.

If I've learned anything it's that there isn't anything to know. There are feelings; the more you accept them all, the better you'll navigate. Giving a shit about arguing is base animalistic egotism masquerading as intellect. Tasting the absolute squashes the insecure urge to fight the world with accumulated convictions. Stfu and live you psueds.

>>16552778
>>16552711
if the dating of the Upanishads is subject of controversy for a very few number of scholars and still dating from a period earlier than any buddhist production, what do buddhists like you have to say about the Vedas?

>>16552854
German idealists were realists with regards to empirical (material) objects and representations, and they weren't monists.
So no, there's nothing obvious there. Unless you have a highschool reading of Kant and Hegel and knowledge of no other authors (which I suspect you do).

>>16553515
>>16553535
No idea why compassionate action isn't nihilistic if its ultimate aim is cessation of all experience and consciousness. Buddhism is just inconsistent with its 'two-orders of truth', where on one side things have meaning and there are moral rules, and on the other all of that is subordinate to a more fundamental selflessness and non-distinguished reality that one should strive to reach.