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Occult is for the homosexuals.

>>16543407
I am looking for chick crack desu famalam

>>16543399
Key of Solomon

>>16543407
And Catholicism is for pederasts. What's your point?

Depends entirely on what you're looking for. Best example >>16543560

If you don't care about summoning demons that book is useless to you. The occult is as vast a field of study as any other; probably the vastest.

>>16543566
>And Catholicism is for pederasts
Wrong. Occultist explicitly encourage homosexuality while catholics very clearly prohibit any kind of degeneracy.
The rate of pederasts among catholics is not higher than in other environments. It just got overblown because of the media bias against catholics.

>>16543560
cheers anon, will check it out
>>16543571
I cant be specific because I have no idea about the occult. I am mainly interested in it so I can discuss it with chicks since they seem to be into it

>>16543399
Crowley's Book 4 does a good job of demystifying the subject. He couldn't stand the secrecy and pseudery surrounding occult organisations, which was really just a holdover from times when they would have been burned as heretics.
Jung also offers plenty of insight. The occult was really the first fumblings towards what is now Jungian psychology.

>>16543578
COPE

>>16543578
>Occultist explicitly encourage homosexuality while catholics very clearly prohibit any kind of degeneracy.
Nope. Any legitimate occultist will outright tell you that homosexuality is an aberration, or else point you in a direction to realize it for yourself, since they're aware that sexuality is such an integral part of the human being and most people will recoil at such statements due to their identity fixations.

>>16543578
>The rate of pederasts among catholics is not higher than in other environments
It should be many times lower, you pathetic copelord.

>>16543592
Hmmm interdasting. So after some time of occultism we got Jung. Tbh it makes kind of sense since he delves into the internal world of human psych

>>16543590
>I am mainly interested in it so I can discuss it with chicks since they seem to be into it
Just pick up books on astrology and tarot then get on with your life. Anything else is just overdoing it for you.

Frances Yates

>>16543592
>The occult was really the first fumblings towards what is now Jungian psychology.
No.

>>16543614
Yep that's what I am thinking. Though I got to admit, I have a slight interest in the occult since watching the 9th gate
>>16543619
Cheers anon

>>16543399
Idiot, don't be lured into something so dangerous because of a stupid movie.

>>16543649
Kek; why and in what ways is it dangerous?

>>16543592
>Crowley
A flaming homosexual btw.

>>16543624
How to assimilate this dazzling and penetrating insight? It's another triumph for /lit/.

12 keys of basil valentine

>>16543655
When you start playing with your mind it can always get messy.

>>16543659
>A flaming bisexual btw.
ftfy. Congrats, you literally don't know the first thing about Crowley.

>>16543407
I am homosexual.

>>16543668
Go on anon. Speaking from experience? genuinly curious

>>16543669
Cope. He loved taking it up the ass. He was a homosexual. Just accept it.

>>16543590
>I am mainly interested in it so I can discuss it with chicks since they seem to be into it
Literally just learn tarot then or astrology

>>16543649
It's only dangerous if you don't go in with right motives and an all-or-nothing attitude. It's a fast track to inner transformation and therefore death to everything you thought you knew, not understanding that is why so many dabblers destroy their lives and go insane. They tap into forces they had no intention or capability of handling correctly.

>>16543672
You start believing in the bullshittiest bullshit there is because then you'll make it as a top tier magician until you are consumed by the shadows you let in.

>>16543685
Sounds like a LARP. I bet all the people who "destroy their lives and go insane" are just drug addicts.

>>16543692
Drugs definitely don't help, but you'd be surprised just how far people can throw themselves into abjection by refusing to assimilate what they find in themselves.

>>16543685
hmmm I dont know anon, cant seem to be convinced. Can you give a specific example if possible?
>>16543691
> top tier magician
i didnt know there were ranks involved

>During homosexual anal intercourse, he usually played the passive role,[275] which Booth believed "appealed to his masochistic side"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
For faggots, by faggots.
>>16543707
What I mean is that the sole reason they ruin their lives is because of the drugs, not because of any larpy "occult" shit. I.e. it's not because they thought too much lol

>>16543710
>cant seem to be convinced.
I'm just telling you how it works. The occult isn't a promising field for theory-wanking intellectual types (as much as they try to force it). Either you confront those invisible realities yourself or just stay on the bench. Nobody cares.

>>16543671
Well ok then

>>16543744
>invisible realities
Are you talking about what Jung reffered to as the shadow?

>>16543775
No. Jung's shadow is just a lush crop of emotional/mental complexes that should be resolved sooner or later by any serious practitioner, failure to do so actually bars them from any considerable attainment. Like our friend Crowley, actually.

>>16543960
Cheers for this one

>>16543399
These new Far Side cartoons are weird.

>>16543679
Everybody knows that you fucking retard. He also married, fathered a daughter and enjoyed sexual liaisons with many women.

>>16543607
>Any legitimate occultist
cringe

stop being a new age larper and just convert to a religion.

>>16543399
Ask this question on /x/ or /lgbt/

I really liked crowley’s book on yoga.
Robert anton wilson has some good stuff as well.

I just want to fuck Babylon whore by burning castle

>>16543592
>The occult was really the first fumblings towards what is now Jungian psychology.

This sounds a bit like spiritual materialism. I like Jung and I think psychotherapy is incredibly interesting but I think it's not correct to claim that occultism is just archetypes and psych projection.

That said I agree with this rec. I would also recommend some comparative mythology, some Campbell or Eliade, as a foundation. I don't really believe things like the lesser key would be good to start with (I should mention I don't think you should be attempting to summon demons anyway, but that's my personal belief).

>>16546991
Absolutely fuckin love this movie.

>>16543399
none. all the books attempt to speak the mysteries that not even the most ipsissimus could crystallize into conscious knowledge.

relax your gaze. look at the Nothing. talk to your ghosts, they are there. and attain what you always knew

>>16543407
Yeah, not very masculine path.

>>16545438
homosexual, bisexual, degenerate, who cares, the occult is a highly feminine movement, their knowledge all fake.

The real occult is modern science

>>16547196
>The real occult is modern science

>>16543592
Weakest most entry-level take I've seen.

>>16543590
>I am mainly interested in it so I can discuss it with chicks since they seem to be into it
1. Go to Youtube
2. Search "Witchtoks"
3. ???
4. Profit!!!

>Iamblichus De Mysteriis (first read Porphyry's Letter to Anebo).
>Corpus Hermeticum
>Plato's Complete Works
>Living Theurgy: A Course in Iamblichus' Philosophy, Theology and Theurgy

>>16543578
>Occultist explicitly encourage homosexuality

>>16547247
The Platonists and Hermeticists where in their elements, occultists are just 19th and 20th century larpers.

>>16547217
No modern science.

>>16543399
Learn the Greeks instead, midwit

>>16543399
The Golden Bough.

>>16547373
Plato would like a word with you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_madness

>>16543407
/thread

>>16543610
says who?
>>16543407
>>16543566
homosexuals and pederasts are the same thing.

>>16543691
>because then you'll make it as a top tier magician

Both of these guys claim to have been top tier magicians prior to their conversions. I wonder if you, or anyone else with knowledge reading this thread, has an opinion on the legitimacy of those claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjaCzmsz-Z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11L71PD3Lw

>>16547267
>Renaissance
>Modern

>>16549201
>Both of these guys claim to have been top tier magicians prior to their conversions.
They weren't. I don't even have to watch the videos to know that, just by this alone.

>>16543399
Learn some Latin. The most important Occult texts are untranslated. The ones that are have been watered down and deformed.

>>16543590
>I cant be specific because I have no idea about the occult. I am mainly interested in it so I can discuss it with chicks since they seem to be into it
You're looking for New Age, not occult. Those girls aren't into serious occultism.

Idk, maybe Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Hall

>>16547699
and what does it have to do with occultism? people in this thread has no knowledge about what occultism is like >>16547266 said.

>>16543590
If all you want is an intro level summary look into "The Black Arts" by Robert Cavendish. It's like 15 bucks on Amazon and gives a good surface level accounting of the general idea of the left/right hand paths, astrology, numerology, tarot, caballah (not sure on the spelling), and witchcraft. It doesn't go deep into anything but you'll get a passable surface level knowledge.

>>16543655
it will warp your mind in ways u cannot imagine basically imagine u are playing pretend for a really long time and the line between what is real and what is not gets blurry really fast

Ignore the midwits arguing over whether taking it up the ass disqualifies someone from being able to pursue esoterics and magic. They miss the point. If you want to get started, go to /x/ and look for the magic general. They have a pastebin and Mega Library of Solomon that's 32 gbs of magic stuff. If you want immediate reading and don't wanna download all that, find and get pdfs of these:
1) The Kybalion
2 ) The Arcane Teachings
3 ) The Arcane Formulas
4 ) Mind Power
5 ) Science of Breath
6 ) Practical Psychomancy and Crystal Gazing
7 ) Mental Influence
8 )Franz Bardon - Initiation into Hermetics
9 ) Mental Technologies
10 ) Magical Use of Thought Forms - Dolores Ashcroft Niwicki

Most of these are written by William Walker Atkinson, so look into more of his publishing list. Get read up on these, start practicing the techniques that they outline, and small but noticeable changes will start to happen. Force of will, magnetic personality, affecting small actions and more will be within your reach. It's where I am now. If you want to be able to start predicting things and learn how to see events or images in places you aren't at the moment, or that will happen in the future, look into remote viewing. It's a technique that has been much diminished since the Grecian and Egyptian eras, but efforts to make a teaching course were made to recapture some of its use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBl0cwyn5GY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgyYms376Mg
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000300110001-8.pdf
Do some of your own research to find more material if you ever want to get really into it. And, if you're REALLY interested, then there's something else you should know. Look into Terence McKenna's work, there's lots of his lectures preserved in hi-fi recordings thankfully. His theory of psilocybin cubensis mushrooms and their effect on early humanoids is upheaving to modern thought, and is not only plausible but backed by climatological evidence and studies that have looked into the exact effects of psychoactive alkaloids on the human mind and body. The altering of consciousness by force of will is THE absolute basis of every magical action, and taking a substance to dissolve the mental boundaries that have been installed by either habit or repression is the irreversible step towards the mindsets of shamans and early gurus who used "light-filled herbs" to see through the veil of Maya. Though they didn't intend to, these anons >>16543692 >>16543692 touched on the point of substance use and bad trips. Many people try things like LSD or magic mushrooms for the fun of it and are quickly overwhelmed by them in what they perceive to be a traumatic way. What it really does is dissolve the blinders and boundaries of the mind; you see into the "basement" of your head, where the things you don't like to think about sit. Facing these is crucial to growing mental resilience and will, because you can't be whole without the bad in you too.

>>16543399
http://www.esotericarchives.com/agrippa/agrippa1.htm

>>16549978
>>16549946
Cheers for the rec anons
>>16550031
So you're basically larping until you believe your own bs?
>>16550047
Thanks for the effortpost anon. Isn't Mckenna a botanologist or something?

>>16543685
>>16543668
It's not dangerous if you only want to learn about the subject without practicing anything right?

>>16543578

>occultists explicitly encourage homosexuality

sounds good to me

>>16550096
In my opinion, you only truly know about something if you actually experience it, but you do you.

>>16550047
>Atkinson
>Drugs
Unimpressed.

Anything by John Michael Greer

>>16550314
The books he recommended are good, I'll grant.

>>16550205
Because you're a faggot.

>>16550278
True, but I think it's a good idea that I stay detached from those things.
I have experience with psychosis, and psychedelics didn't help me in that regard.

>>16550095
Ethno botanist, yes. Also an alternative thinker and a then contemporary critic of modern scientific failings. His brother Dennis McKenna, who's still alive, is continuing to do pharmacological work on the benefits of mushrooms and the nature of psychoactive substances. Him and Paul Stamets are people you should look into if you want to see just how helpful mushrooms are to our health and mental faculties, and for keeping soil fertile, stable and healthy. He's also considered one of the most well-known psychonauts for his lectures on the experience of psychedelia and the various substances that can cause it (ayahuasca, DMT, psilocybin, etc.) and the books he's written on them.
>>16550096
It's not dangerous in the physical sense. When you start magical study or actual psychological study and not contemporary watered down and useless grad degree program horseshit, you start to look at the human mind in a completely new (to you) way. You start to look into your own mind, its habits, the way it functions, the confusing details of it, and the nature of how reality itself is perceived. In short, you unlearn most of the random bits of cultural information and random factoids that have passively drifted into your head and you start to question the core of what you thought you once knew. It has, will, and continues to completely flip people's worlds upside down by what it shows you. It's very, very uncomfortable and usually terrifying to people who aren't ready or who are mentally too weak or fragile to handle a complete shift of their functioning world. The people who do have the mindset, resilience, or drive to push forwards past this and want to continue regardless of this world-flip are the ones that come out strong and magically inclined. This is the "crossing the abyss" stage that separates the wheat from the chaff. This stage applies not just to magic and esoterics but also to philosophy and religions. Many have become disillusioned with the modern church's failures and have experienced the post-modern schools of thought (which heavily bastardize Nietzsche) and then parade around thinking they have the answers, that they've seen through the tricks. Most Nihilists, fatalists and atheists against every religion felt the abyss and stopped moving because of it. They didn't cross it, and so still think that gods, spirits and magic isn't real. They very much are, and they very much can make tangible things happen. Your faith goes full circle, in a sense, and it can only go full circle when you experience it for yourself and not just by someone else's say-so. If you don't have the endurance, drive or mental resilience to try psychedelics or to try to learn then cross the abyss, then don't get into esoterics. All you'll get is a mid-life crisis of your worldview that will not go away, and you'll join the ranks of late millennial 30-year olds that believe they know it all about the evils of religion and the wonders of atheism.

>>16548295
Lol animu lover and hates on fags

>>16550314
Would you've liked me to have given a full lecture on the nature of symbolism, magic theories and the nature of mental reality instead? Did you want me to spoon feed you every juicy little detail and tidbit of knowledge that even though you don't really understand it you want it anyways? Would you like me to change your diaper, cook you tendies and pour mustard sauce on the steaming little nuggets for you to snack on as you read your favorite manga too? Or did you want me to write as pseudo intellectual as I could to appeal to your massive, quivering intellect that I'm sure is very impressive and very big? Do me a favor. Go outside and get a library card, and then check out three books, any kind. Spend an hour reading through each. You can even sound the words out loud if you'd like. Then, when you're done, come back here and use those big boy reading comprehension skills to read through the thread and get the context of it. Then you can take both of your hands, take your wrinkly unwashed scrote, shove it up your greasy sweaty asshole and clench yourself castrated so your empty sack can match your skull you pretentious fucking retard.

Foucault's Pendulum

What parts of A Dark Song were most realistic?

>>16550620
seething

Hegel's Science of Logic

>>16550047
Good recs, anon. I've never been much for the botanically enhanced side of the esoterics, but you provide a good collection of readings and effortposting and don't seem like the standard ayahuasca pushers that infest everything.
Tell me, what are your thoughts on the root-like structure of esoteric traditions as a whole? Do you adhere or personally fall into any specific stream of thought?
As for generally replying, from my studies the reading list of Hermeticism would be as follows:
Corpus Hermeticum (Scott translation /w Asclepius and Emerald Tablet)
The Bible, mostly the New Testament
Enneads by Plotinus
A Suggestive Inquiry into The Hermetic Mystery
Meditations on the Tarot
The last two provide a great amount of other sources and authors to follow up on. Developing a general regimen of physical exercise, mental study, and regular prayer tends to help as well from my experience. Just because this world is a fallen machine does not mean a strong body does not give rise to a strong mind, and in turn a strong soul.

>>16550478
Are you sure anon? He seems pretty straight to me.

>>16550047
I recognize that list from /fringe/.

I wrote up a essay showing how the tantrik tattvas (of Abhinavagupta’s schema ) correspond to the Kabbalah and their phenomenological analysis and so forth, is anyone interested in reading the essay? Figure there must be some interest among western occultists here.

>>16551799
>A Suggestive Inquiry into The Hermetic Mystery
I bought this from a mail order book catalog and have read about half of it, and it made no sense at all to me. It was also one of the first hermetic books I ever read. Is it worth trying to plow through it, or are there intro works I should read before it?

>>16550559
It's interesting you include philosophy in the cluster of things that involve "crossing the abyss". Something that's been bothering me for years now is the mainsteam twitter glorification of Nietzsche as "nothing matters" while missing the second half, "so you have to arbitrarily pick something and act as if it does matter." Do you have any suggestions of works in the philosophical canon that also deal with occult topics?

>>16552563
You read it first with no understanding, but make sure you do it cover to cover while recording the works and authors it cites. Study those after you brush up on the New Testament and Corpus Hermeticum.
Imo studying Hermeticism starts with piecing together an entire philosophy then studying it all over again with a new perspective after you're done.

>>16546991
>>16547055
What movie is this?

>>16543399
Sacred-Texts.com has a good collection of grimoires, like sixth and seventh books of Moses.

>>16551799
The structure of the traditions of magic, the first philosophies and early religions all spring from the same well. The realizing of the circular nature of reality and its many spirals is the absolute heart of the Hermetic traditions, of which we don't have the full story on given the physical documents that were destroyed by the Library of Alexandria burning and by the slow erosion of time in the surviving texts. It is at the heart of shamanistic societies, and of the dimensions shown to the shamans who explored and used them. Magic, spirituality and the existence of intelligent entities are very old facts and were developed alongside one another. It's no surprise then that they merge seamlessly together and appear strange, shunted and incomplete when taken apart from one another. The symbols we use in rituals and in communication in esoterics follow in the fashion of the ancients. That's my take on it, at least.
>>16552563
Jung's Man and His Symbols is a good book to read to understand how magic, psychology and philosophical bents all merge together in human consciousness under the umbrella of the Archetypes. Look into Jung's works and the archetype structure graphics (google jung's archetypes chart) and that'll bridge some of your gaps. As far as the abyss-dwelling masses, in any body of work that requires you to re-tool yourself in order to grow, the abyss exists. People are produced who are half-fit, half-wise, half-loving or half-smart all the time. It just means they were of a better average quality than the average person and could not find it in themselves to rise above or endure the process.

>>16550559
What would you define as successfully crossing the abyss?

>>16552678
A pretty good take. I consider myself of the Hermetic branch because the varying facets and outlooks characteristic of it and the Christian variant are things I've hit upon myself or appeared to call to me in life and found out someone already wrote it all down centuries ago. That and the meditative prayer proscribed as part of it has yielded powerful results for me. Esotericism being like a large umbrella which ties together philosophy and psychology is a great point, as well.

>>16550047
the magic general pastebin is an incredible resource

>>16552363
Yes, please post. I know very little about tantra but may bookmark it for later, as I'm slowly getting into eastern esotericism.

>>16552641
The ninth gate. Big recommend.

>>16552705
Think of it as a circular model like that of Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. At the start, you have whatever information that's presently available in your mind cobbled together from the passive collecting of information from your culture and social groups, along with bits from your education. Exposure to the intrigue of the occult moves you to the next phase of Searching as the previous state no longer holds the comfort of answers for you. A little term searching here, a few videos there, and some browsing on /x/. So begins the circling of the hole at the foot of the tree by curious little Alice. The moment you push forwards and experience your first uncomfortable brush with reality is the slip into Wonderland as Alice tumbles down into a terrifying new place. You have entered the Underworld as Campbell puts it, the Abyss where what you once knew has been overturned. Alice explores Wonderland after the initial shock just as you explore the other side of reality that you had been ignorant of. Answers to new questions pop up, comforting illusions are dismissed, and you shuck away the part of you that once believed everything outside of Wonderland. Here is where many people wander and wallow in their new state of mind. The thrill and terror of Wonderland has passed and left a jaded and cynical view of those not yet exposed to the Abyss. But the answers that have been satisfactory at this point soon lose their value as no new questions are asked, nothing more is strived towards. It is the mark of a strong personality or committed will to push deeper even in Wonderland, to demand more shifts of reality. Alice has met the Queen of Hearts but is not satisfied with the overly cynical ruler who bullies and bustles with self-importance. The Queen is not the end. Neither is thinking you know it all once the rabbit hole is gone down. You push on and find something peculiar behind the Queen, behind the teachings that so thoroughly shook you. The principles of Wonderland, although radically different, are still dependable and learnable. Information surrounds you, and Alice need only remember that she has agency and clarity of mind despite Wonderland's shocks. The magic foods she had stumbled over in the beginning now serve her as tools, growing large to oppose the Queen's rule and establishing her own power, her own will on the world. The Abyss has been entered, and lessons from it are learned. Now you're on the way out. Alice flees after a mistaken use of the wrong magic food and is chased until finally she can't run any longer and is overwhelmed. In that moment of surrender and giving up everything old that had been clung to so desperately, Alice wakes up. You leave the Abyss when you suddenly realize that the world was always this way. It never had a thing wrong or right with it. You were the only thing in your way, stubbornly declaring the world was against you and defending yourself from phantoms.

>>16554279
The most peculiar thing is that you're right back where you began. This time though, you have a piece of Wonderland in your pocket and it's wisdom in your mind.
Not everyone makes it over. But those who do not only realize the immense potential dormant within them, they have the strength to wake it up and use it. This happens many times in a magician's life, and the first cycle is always the hardest. But every time it passes a little more is kept by you. This is the oldest psychological model we have. It's existed before there were words to describe it. Magic, rationale, and the drive for improvement were its first uses. It is what made us more than anything else humans, subject to the human condition, the grindstone of the world against the grain of your spirit.

>>16543578
>>16543607
Alright, give me resources pro an anti faggotry in an occultist tradition.

>>16554109

https://pastebin.com/AjzfzFTk

>>16554279
That explain why after years of occult studies, I suddenly realise its basically science and great works that are the occult and not occult texts.

>>16546991
>>16547055
>>16554115
I never understood the ending properly. Did he go to Heaven or Hell?

>>16554930
Read the Kybalion, and contemplate the laws of Gender and Polarity in particular. It's all extremely self-evident.

Kabbalisticly speaking, this guy's work is impressive.

https://www.davidchaimsmith.com/drawings

>>16555628
He opened thr gates of hell and forthat was granted unlimited knowledge. Thsi movie imo is top 10 for atmosphere.

>>16547196
You have to speak English to post on this board.

>>16547223
Weakest most entry-level post I've seen.

>>16548295
>homosexuals and pederasts are the same thing
I've concluded that /lit/ has a higher proportion of retards than any other board. And most of them regard themselves as intellectuals FFS ....

>>16543668
>When you start playing with your mind it can always get messy.

"There are lunatic asylums all over the world filled with people who dabbled in the occult."

>>16556499
nice dubs, and it is a sensational film. If it was hell, why was the entrance so.....luminous

>>16543668
Only if your mind is messy to begin with.

>>16557137
>homosexuals and pederasts are the same thing.

>>16543590
learning occult stuff to impress girls lol just learn some basic bitch shit from youtube they don't have a deep knowledge of the occult

>>16557137
yes look into early gay activists lots of them joined the man boy love association

>>16555628
Nunc scio tenebris lux

>>16543399
>Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa - Three Books of Occult Philosophy
>Marsilio Ficino - Three Books on Life

>>16557137
he doesn't know about Harry Hay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hay

>>16554279
With your gay ass Alice in Wonderland and muh hero's journey analogies aside, I agree.
>>16550559
> you start to look at the human mind in a completely new (to you) way. You start to look into your own mind, its habits, the way it functions, the confusing details of it, and the nature of how reality itself is perceived. In short, you unlearn most of the random bits of cultural information and random factoids that have passively drifted into your head and you start to question the core of what you thought you once knew. It has, will, and continues to completely flip people's worlds upside down by what it shows you. It's very, very uncomfortable and usually terrifying to people who aren't ready or who are mentally too weak or fragile to handle a complete shift of their functioning world.
Also agree. There is so much we take for granted whether consciously or unconsciously. Many of our beliefs have a second and more insidious logic beneath the surface. Everything be questioned, including conventional wisdom and what appears to be most self-evident. Subterranean Logic is one of my favorite essays from the Introduction to Magic series for cluing me in on this.

>>16543960
Kys tranny

>>16549201
Haven't heard of the first guy but having been into this kind of thing for years now in various forms Ramirez I think is believable.

>>16554995
other anon, but thanks

>>16557799
Why wouldnt it be?

>>16561885
Generally you would associate a luminous bright welcoming light with the opposite of hell. Was he given some kind of special place them within Hell, given the nature of his entrance?

Can someone who has experience with both Harry Potter and the occult tell me if J. K. Rowling knows more than she let's out on the surface? Has anyone done a reading of HP as an alchemical allegory?

>>16561900
lol no

>>16561900
The opposite. She is pretending to know more than she does, which is little

>>16561910
Is this the actual reason why Harold Bloom, a known gnostic and kabbalist, was so outspoken against Rowling? That she paints this over-the-top fantasy image of magic, basically creating a strawman for everything occult.

>>16561924
Yes, she represents well a outsider's, folk-like, concept of the occult and magic, written to pander to wide audiences

>>16561900
I doubt she knows anything substantial beyond surface level stuff like Nicholas Flamel and the philosopher's stone. You could probably bullshit something up with the deathly hallows trinity and the symbol looks awfully similar to that of the philosopher's stone, but I don't see it there.

>>16561896
Luminous bright lights are not always good. Look into it.

>>16563583
"For this will to deceive that is in things luminous may manifest itself likewise in retrospect and so by sleight of some fixed part of a journey already accomplished may also post men to fraudulent destinies". -Blood Meridian

>>16561900
>>16561910
I doubt she is pretending to know anything quite frankly, HP has never tried to be anything other that coming-of-age YA in a fantasy magical setting.

>>16559902
Very interesting, ty.

>>16549270
Modernity is from the Renaissance to the World Wars.
Look it up.

>>16543399
Start with Colin Wilson's trilogy

>>16554115

Is Roman Polanski involved in the occult?

>>16564433
Hollywood pedo elite so yes

>ctrl-f "ninth"
>1 of 1 matches
>ctrl-f "dumas"
>phrase not found
You plebs, this is /lit/. We are here for the novel.

>>16543578
Cope