/lit/ - Literature

Man, what is it with you kissless fash incels. Are you hanging onto some lowbrow genre fiction for KIDS like it's the graal? Slit your fucking throat before posting against the rules again. There's a fucking general for scum like you

>>16504640
Not asking for fantasy genre fiction. Also go fuck yourself.

Blake and Spenser are two obvious ones.

>>16504612
Actual Christianity is a fusion of Christianity and paganism. The Christians appropriated any number of pagan rites and traditions.

>>16504612
The only body of works similar to LOTR would be Lewis' Lion Witch and the Wardrobe.

there's the icelandic sagas OP kind of related because their culture was both pagan and christian with sometimes priests living side by side with magicians and sorcerers, you'll hear true tales of ordinary people's and suddenly you'll have a zombie rampaging about and the heroes have to stop him, etc.

>>16504772
Look into the sword of shanara

>>16504612
>fusion of Christianity and paganism
nope, that's just catholicism

>>16504726
>>16504849
Indeed, indeed.

>oh cool a LOTR thre-
>oh wait he's actually just talking about religion
make a fucking religion board already mods, this board has gone to shit so bad

>>16504994
>Discussing religion in relation to a religious novel
Hmm...

>>16505006
>>16505006
>religious novel
lol
it wouldn't even be a problem if half of the catalog at any given time are threads about fucking religion, with very tenuous links to literature

>>16505024
We live in an era of spiritual death and hopelessness, so it's not surprising.

Take meds

>>16504814
No

>>16505065
This reminded me to take my allergy medication, thank you kind anon.

>>16505052
good think literature can help just fine with that, no need to join a wanky cult

>>16504642
I'm having sex on the regular

>>16504612
Read Lewis's Space Trilogy

>>16504612
>but its fusion of Christianity and paganism, which allows it to touch something deep within the European consciousness
Your analysis is well off-base.

And what the fuck is the "European consciousness"? Can we get a bootlicker board for proto-Nazis?

>>16505301
>And what the fuck is the "European consciousness"?
Something you'd understand if your skin had less melanin content.

>>16504612
Warhammer 40k

>>16505386

>>16505301

>Can we get a bootlicker board for proto-Nazis?

It's called /pol/

>>16504612

Dune comes to mind, because it's sort of the opposite. It fuses modern sociology with pre-Islamic paganism. Also sand worms.

>>16505301
Yes we MUST not allow the term "European consciousness". It does not exist. It MUST not exist.

>>16504612

You should check out elder scrolls lore.
Prob one of the closer things to LOTR as far as fantasy goes.
The D&D lore is pretty cool as well.
The grimm stories are really cool to.
Maybe not directly what you're looking for as far as theme but these are my recommendations.
If you actually want a christian/pagan you don't have to look further than modern Christianity.

>>16504640

>Are you hanging onto some lowbrow genre fiction for KIDS like it's the graal?

"Sorry" people can enjoy things that don't appeal to your pseudo-self aware "I'm better than everyone cause I read Marx" mentality. Why don't you go post more Carl Sagan quotes on reddit faggot.

>>16505711
>Carl Sagan
LMFAO? I'm not a burgerman my good bitch but I'd suggest you to go back to plebbit yourself

A canticle for Lebowitz. And the sparrow. They both deal more explicitly with Christianity in a fantastical setting, but I think they have the spirit of what you are looking for.

>>16504612
Paradise Lost

>>16504810
Nordic cultural mythos was entirely written down and Christianized by Christian monks, to the point where most of its characters, themes, and concepts are under the scrutiny of authenticity because it’s likely they were altered by scribes in an attempt at perennializing the culture’s beliefs as a gateway to Christianity’s takeover.

>>16505693
European identity only exists in opposition to the Muslim the world, created by the culture clash constructed by the Catholic Church at its lowest and most politically motivated point.
There is nothing ideologically or culturally which units all European nations, in fact at differing points in history, pretty much every major European culture made a conscious effort to distance themselves from being included as Europeans because the continent was seen as so barbarous.
>muh christian values
Hardly. The religion was inported from the Middle East and by the time it became the power structure in Europe, it was a shadow of its original self and was initially opposed wherever it tried to spread. Modern values which the West is proud of such as democracy and free thinking existed before Christianity’s arrival, and didn’t resurface until the rise of secularism.
Europe is a mythological fever dream and mouthbreathers need to get over it. It doesn’t even have any geological basis; it’s Eurasia.

harry potter

>>16504640
This is a bot

The Book of the New Sun - Gene Wolfe.

Wolfe was a Catholic and has incorporated that worldview into a Sci-fi/fantasy future earth. Very well written too.

>>16504612
If anyone is wondering why there are so many shills ITT, it is because Israel (and consequently, world jewry) believe that Pagan-inspired Christian movements are one of their biggest threats. Same with ecofascism.

>>16507404
I agree with you politically moreso than a leftist, but can we stop with the delusion that people are paid to go on a board like /lit/ to argue with right wing posters? This board is probably the most left-leaning on the whole site, it's not a surprise to be challenged

>>16507329
Was coming to post this. I loved the first-person narration of it too, very refreshing

>>16506551
Post nose.

>>16504640
I'm going to rape

>>16504726
This ought not to go unchallenged. By fusion do you mean of equal parts? That any of the actual teaching has been changed? Or do you only mean the dates of some festivals have been changed?

>>16507655
Actual teachings, otherwise protestantism (which is a literal interpretation of the Bible) would not have been a thing.

>>16507677
An interesting take. Genuinely interested to know more as I was raised catholic and converted to CoE because I'm not sure about the pope, Mary and praying to saints. I don't personally see the point in them but I don't think they are heretical or wrong. Beyond this I've noticed almost no difference in teaching.

Where is all the paganism?

>>16504612
Probabaly CS Lewis trilogy

>>16508898
The Space Trilogy? That's a great suggestion, it's super cool.

You might also catch glimpses of that in CS Lewis, both Narnia and the Space trilogy. I think he'd be the last one to claim his writing was as singular as Tolkien's but it was tapping into something similar.

Aside from that I wonder whether your best bet might be to read backwards, to uncover the true essence of Christianity at its highest points of (true?) synthesis with the classical, secular European dimension, and not try to find moderns who did it deliberately. Dante comes to mind, you might be surprised how deep Dante is in the interpretations of some Christian critics. The authors T.S. Eliot loves, in general, might interest you, and even some of the ones he hates (Milton). You might discover Tolkien "ish" energies in authors you wouldn't have expected otherwise, through Eliot. Just some random suggestions here.

>>16508898
>>16508912
Oops replied before reading the whole thread.

Lord of the Rings is pagan through and through. Nothing of the defining features/concepts of Christianity and Jewish semitic religious desert demon worship (afterlife, heaven and hell, rewards for your deeds in heaven, separating this world from the spiritual world, "material" world being inferior, turning the other cheek, dying for muh sins, son of God, one true omnipotent omniscient god with intermediary beings, salvation, ...) are found in it. If some elements are found in it that may be also found in Church teachings that is because they are European elements appropriated by the Church, not originally Christiam. Kys Jewish kike shills.

>>16509097
*with no intermediary beings

>>16509097
>In Letter 142, Tolkien called the Lord of the Rings a "Catholic work", quote: The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. ... For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism.

>>16507329
>was a catholic
>didn't know that he died last year
Rest in peace, Wolfe

>>16504612
Literal children’s books for children

>>16504612
>but its fusion of Christianity and paganism, which allows it to touch something deep within the European consciousness.

Sadly for you, my dear autistic incel, Tolkien was quite a philosemitie and hated Nazis.

>>16510643
By just reading that line I can assure OP has never kissed a girl.

>>16504640
This is a "read theory" poster

>>16509097
Have you read the Silmarillion?

>>16504612
*ahem*

>>16510295
Pic related :(

>>16505386
>Warhammer 40k, the series where material is made manifest through excessive consumption in the form of an overpriced series of models and brands
>"soul"

>>16505711
>You should check out elder scrolls lore.
>The D&D lore is pretty cool as well.
This is the average genre fiction reader, Jesus FUCKING Christ.

>>16506551

>>16506551
Based. Europe is a convenient lie

>>16511359
>Modern values which the West is proud of such as democracy and free thinking existed before Christianity’s arrival

top kek, he actually thinks this

>>16507321
This is me, motherfucker

>>16510643
OP here. I didn't say anything about Jews or politics whatsoever. Why do you assume that my positive reference to Europeanness equates to Nazism?