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>>16406676
Assyrian demon summoning scrolls

>The Vatican Apostolic Archive (Latin: Archivum Apostolicum Vaticanum; Italian: Archivio Apostolico Vaticano), known until October 2019 as the Vatican Secret Archive,is the central repository in the Vatican City of all acts promulgated by the Holy See. The pope, as Sovereign of Vatican City, owns the material held in the archive until his death or resignation, with ownership passing to his successor. The archive also contains state papers, correspondence, account books, and many other documents that the church has accumulated over the centuries. In the 17th century, under the orders of Pope Paul V, the Secret Archive was separated from the Vatican Library, where scholars had some very limited access, and remained closed to outsiders until the late 19th century, when Pope Leo XIII opened the archive to researchers, more than a thousand of whom now examine some of its documents each year.
From the sounds of it, tax records from the 17th century.

>>16406676
Galileo’s Diagramma Della Verita

>>16406676
The unpublished 8th Harry Potter book.

>>16406676
The Winds of Winter

>>16406676
That sequel to Moby Dick that Meville wrote that disappeared before he died and nobody talks about

>>16406676
Presumably you don't allow random idiots in your house to fuck with your stuff, so then what are you hiding, op?

>>16406676
Sex 2

>>16406786
I'm sure the jews are eager for the vatican to "open up" the archives so that they can loot it.

>>16406676
full text of the 3rd secret of fatima

>>16406694
The boring answer is usually the correct one. Given that you need to know what you want to read in the first place to even be granted access, it's unlikely that there's anything too shocking in there.

>>16406798
???

I swear, someone could rob a supermarket somewhere and people here would link it to the Jews somehow.

>>16406694
>>16406814
>noooooo!! you can't just browse tax records from centuries ago!! nOoooOOoO!!!!
seems legit.

>>16406786
It's true. But I also don't ask guests what they want to view in my house before letting them in and specifying that they're only allowed to request to view 3 of my things each day.

>>16406816
are you well read in both sides to the argument?

>>16406832
The state has absolute sovreignty, so the Vatican has every right(?) to have their own archives. Every government has the same thing. Instuitions of science do as well. Do you think I could just walk up to CERN and the specs for their particle generator?
>>16406841
can I walk in your house, go through your wallet and computuer?

>>16406862
Sure they have a right to their archives. I also have a right to wonder what's in there and why they're so secret.

And you can walk into my house and go through my wallet and computer as long as you already know how much money is in my wallet and what my computer specs are :^)

>>16406676
Literally all the greeks.

The vatican periodically releases some of them every few ccenturies to keep people interested. The litterally have every single greek work ever created and widely known in the greek world.

>>16406694
based. Think of how much we will learn about the state of proto-housing market in the 1600s. we could litterally find out that the whole of france is technically in debt 10 Quintilian levre to Ulm or something.

>>16406676
Everything you wanted to know about the Vatican archives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgiYKfSuaVg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egS9XHSl0-k

>>16406676
I checked out the E-Vatican Archives, the website on which they publish some select things digitally, and all of the documents were in the very old Latin script which is basically impossible to decipher as a modern person. The only thing I understood was an Anglo-Saxon land charter since I'm familiar with the Old English script and it was just a land charter gifting some earl named Eormund 15 acres by a lake.

>>16407030
hehe, knowing latin is absolutely great for a history autist like I. I spent a decent amount of time trying to translate early 1500's treatise.

Off course the script and sometimes odd vulgar latin is a pain though.

>>16406832
>>16406881
Saying as all of the documents are incredibly fragile and even the slightest touch can shatter a priceless page their not allowing people into the library makes sense, especially with how many fat, sweaty, clumsy guys they'd have fumbling around with ancient documents.

>>16406862
>Do you think I could just walk up to CERN and the specs for their particle generator?
cern run tours. most aspects of the LHC are in published papers.

>>16407041
The script is literally like an entirely different alphabet, it's fucking ridiculous. Those who invented fancy scripts should be put to death unironically.

>>16407045
>cern run tours
so does the vatican
>most aspects of the LHC are in published papers.
so are most things in the vatican archives.

>>16407047
Not wrong. of course by the late middle ages it gets codified a lot more and its easier to read. especially with print. But going back to the Carolingians and stuff, or some non offical handwriting is hard. even with a reference. There was like 20 different clerical scripts in france at some point.

>>16406881
>so secret
They're not "so secret". They're just secret.

>>16407118
i think "very secret" is better than "so secret" or just "secret".

>>16407135
What's the difference between "secret" and "very secret"?

>>16407135
>>16407159
Or, to put it another way, what's the difference between "not very secret" and "not secret"

>>16407159
"very" implies a strengthened meaning of the word secret.

>>16407159
most military, governments etc have a level above secret but usually it's called "top secret" or something rather than "very secret"
they differ in the impact of their contents and the security clearance required to view them.

>>16407170
>>16407159
as opposed to "so" which implies a higher degree of secrecy.

>>16406676
Epicurus’ 37 volume set of On Nature

>>16407165
>not secret
everyone knows about it
>not very secret
a few people know about it

>>16406676
my diary desu

>>16406832
While there probably are some records and dealings they would rather keep out of the public eye, it's more a case of wanting to preserve ancient documents for as long as they can. Believe it or not, paper is quite fragile and doesn't age very well

>>16406694
They have proof jesus was a black man with BBC and Mary magdalene was a ginger white girl with a (formerly) tight pussy

>>16406814
Ok Francis

>>16407220
Mutts law

>>16406676
Secret here is an older use of the term meaning 'private', like in secretary

>>16407480
but its also in part secret, as in classified, do not touche, to.

>>16406691
That's bullshit but I believe it.

>>16407604
I dont know why it would be bulshit. I could definitly see some early church father before a lot of the specifics got hashed out get his hands on some Assyrian scrolls.

>>16406676
Probably some Aristotelian or Thomist proofs that God does exist beyond any doubt. It'd never be accepted by the masses so the pope's keep it in a dustbin in some corner.

>>16406676
Aristotle's dialogues that Cicero mentions.

>>16407622
What if its an Aristotelian or Thomist proofs that prove that God absolutely does not exist beyond any doubt. And to prevent widespread anarchy and social decay they try to keep up the veneire but are slowly loosing to entropy.

>>16407604
>>16407617 They are the same demons as now though??
Legion still comes back and Jesus banished it

>>16407622
>The Pope would never want to publish irrefutable proof that God exists and that they're His rightful church because... some people wouldn't believe it.

>>16407647
maybe they fear it will cause the end times

>>16407672
Why would they fear end times?

>>16406816
I swear, someone could control the world financial system and manipulate the entire populace with psychosocial conditioning in order to influence governments towards their own ends and people here would link it to the Jews somehow.

>>16406694
Something wicked must be hidden among these tax records

>>16406912
> we could litterally find out that the whole of france is technically in debt 10 Quintilian levre to Ulm or something.
They better pay their denbts

>>16406881
If we know about it at all it's not "so secret".

>>16407820
oyy vey
SHUT IT DOWN