/lit/ - Literature

One of the best effortposts ever posted. Perfect takedown of all non-physicalist theories of mind.

>>16391987
Absolutely based, /lit/ confirmed to have nothing worth posting

>>16391987
cringe

The threads on describing CIA Bane scene and Chungus in a famous author's prose were great. Don't think I have the screencaps tho

>>16391987
Does Pynchon actually do this?

>>16394896
>Chungus

>>16395060
greatest post of all time

>>16391987
We never got a full screencap.

>>16395099
Checked

>>16395099
>>16395060
>>16395879
You just know he spent a couple hours preparing those pages just to shitpost. There isn't a full book

>>16394896
Hey FAGGOT?
That’s “easy on the carrots” you newfruend

>>16395041

>>16395060
Pure gold

>>16395060
XD n word funny :DDD

>>16391987
Fuck Custodians

>>16395993
this!!! this!!! so funnyy hahhahahha

>>16395993
>>16395998
yea its pretty funny bc it gets a reaction from fags like you

>>16396016

>>16395993
It's funny because it mocks the sanctity of the word for people like you in a way that you will never get because you're basically a religious zealot. It's not a joke you can understand

>>16396016
This is why you have to study along with the practice of meditation. What an idiot.

>>16391987
I have a bunch of good screenshots

>>16396069
This guy doesn't seem aware that there were some wars fought over this, it wasn't exactly a matter of intellectual debate

>>16396003
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. The post inself is kinda funny, just because of the authors autism and obsession, but being an edgelord doesn´t make you funny.

>>16396110
>seething over a word
someone come take a look at this faggot

>>16396016
The point of meditation is to be in a state where you can objectively monitor your feelings as they rise and fall, still understanding they are your subjective feelings.

>>16396123
Idgaf whether you use some word or not, the point is that you are not funny screeching NIGGGEERER NIGGGERRER

>>16395902

Wow, no shit genius.

>>16395997

Lmao that's my post. Heckin based.

>>16396172

>>16395997

Based

>>16396185
You need a new word to describe the race and gender obsession, calling them liberals doesn't address it since that's an economic description. Most actual leftists have been hamstrung by that stuff too

>>16396124
That's one point of a type of meditation, not the only purpose of it and relatively a small one in contrast to the greater and whole range of effects meditation can have.

>>16396016
Eastern meditation is not my thing, but this guy got filtered by religion in general. The point, if there ever was one, was to realize that you've been programmed by society but the only way to enjoy life is to deprogram yourself.

>>16396172
lol good job bro

>>16391987

>>16396069
This is completely backwards. The left losing both the moral and intellectual debate is what necessitated their CULTURAL revolution in the first place. It wasn't done by winning arguments but by subverting institutions from the bottom up and imposing their own orthodoxies. That is what they are good at. Having cultural power does not mean an argument has been won, it just seems that way to people who don't think about it for more than a minute, or who have no idea what has been done to our universities.

>>16396380
Lmao Seething. That based anon is still fucking up pol schlucks months and months later.

>>16396390
you know you can't win any of the arguments, you wouldn't even try, you depend on censoring them. No society has open debates about its dogmas, it's always enforced by power.

>>16396390
I don't post on pol or anything like that. That post has things backwards is all.

>>16396408
Buddy I got no idea what you're fuckin saying but it sounds like a mighty cope to me.

>>16396411
The most obvious example is arguing that every human population has the same average intelligence. You can't even begin to make a good case for that so you just have to shut down any discussion of it.

>>16396415
Oh kek I didn't realize I was talking with a schizoid immediately. Buddy, if you're still inside that shell of a mind, try to grasp that you're not making any sense to us normies.

>>16396431
I know, you literally can't even think about the question empirically, it's really quite comical

>>16395060
Did he publish?

>>16396380
>they won by losing
>they won by subverting institutions from the bottom
>people have no idea what has been done to our universities
reread the post again, you've already been retroactively refuted. he's literally talking about you. this post hoc cope, just like all the others, is hopelessly self-defeating. here's another cope:
>durr niggers and immigrants are ruining our country, they're dumb, read the bell curve!
>but anon, ashkenazi jews are the highest IQ ethnic group in the world. aren't you just a nigger to the Jew?
>t-that's why they're bad! w-wait, no, no, i don't mean that, they're bad because they're inherently evil!
you've already lost

>>16396445
you sound like that 6th grader who's throwing well-known but often-ignored words around to sound smart. Only fuckin robots use "comical" unironically

>>16391987

>>16396451
Ashkenazi Jews are about 10 million people. There are way more high IQ whites and asians than Jews, including specific populations that have similar average IQ scores, ie. around 110-115.

>>16396456
You know very well that you are literally incapable of thinking clearly about whether human populations might have different average intelligences. Depending on how brainwashed you are it might actually make you panic to even think about it.

You can't sit down and think about the evidence for and against this question, largely because pretty much all the evidence indicates that there are differences, which you aren't allowed to think.

>>16396473
buddy, I've got no idea what you're talking about nor do I have a clue how it relates to the image ive posted. I see youre trying to bait me, that much is clear, but in your own confusion, you tied the worm to the end of your pole and threw out an empty hook.

>>16396464
percentages, anon

>>16396484
Do you think it's possible that some human populations are smarter on average than others?

>>16391987

>>16396016
He’s never gonna make it.

>>16396493
>human populations
Meaning what? Races? Sexes? People in certain geographical locations?

>smarter
Meaning what? Better at writing poetry? Better at fixing cars? Better at hunting seals? Higher IQ?

>>16396088
Is a mediocre extremist larp post really the “best of /lit/?”

>>16396504
Populations as in related to each other genetically more than to other humans, shared ancestry. And yes IQ, which correlates with pretty much all tasks considered to require intelligence.

>>16396451
Kikes are indeed smart. How do you think they subverted the whole world?

>>16396507
>And yes IQ, which correlates with pretty much all tasks considered to require intelligence
Its been said for years that IQ isn't an accurate way to measure intelligence. Now, maybe you'll claim that this argument is proof of leftists influencing thought or something, but IQ is terribly reductive. I read recently that Salinger had an average IQ, but that man penned some of the greatest lines of the last 70 years.

And obviously people related to fucking Einstein or some shit are going to be better off generally than some dude born to a prostitute and a used car salesman. Your argument has not presented itself yet and whatever you HAVE said has just seemed retarted and not thought out.

>>16396521
I have said the same thing several times, it is very easy to understand, it is this: different human populations probably have different average intelligences, all available evidence indicates this, IQ is the best and most rigorous evidence but every other bit of evidence aligns with it. The reason that you think I'm unclear is because you have literal crimestop making you incapable of thinking about this. Again, comical.

We can review the mountains of evidence showing differences in average intelligence if you want, but it would be a bit cruel to you I think.

>>16396541
Nibba you mighty dumb. Im gonna get the nice older fat black lady I see to pray for you extra hard because you're getting awful lost saying nonsense.

>>16396550
It is actually amusing to me see your mind sliding off the issue we're talking about, you know it's dangerous for you to think about, you can be ostracized for having the wrong opinion, so you convince yourself that I'm simply not making sense. You are a perfect example.

>>16396563
No nibba i just dont understand what your conclusion is. Yes, obviously some very select groups of people will be smarter in very specific ways than other (again) very select groups of people. And? I'm sure some people are smarter than other people entirely, and their brains simply work better, but i think making any grand claims about what this means or which groups are definitively 'better' is reductive at best and serving some weird political agenda at worst. Youll have to excuse my messiness in form, too, as I'm in the middle of sets

ae

>>16395993
Based

>>16396581
There are obvious and large differences in average intelligence and behavior between entire populations, ethnicities. The Korean and Congolese for example. This is not a matter of morality, it's an empirical question.

You are mostly incapable of thinking about this because it's considered a sin by our modern religion of antiracism. I'm getting bored of repeating it you, and mostly dont bother with this topic anymore in general but it should occasionally be mentioned that our ruling class believes completely retarded bullshit and that's why it's so censorious, which was the point of the discussion.

>>16395993
Based

>>16396637
yeah buddy, if you're willing to reduce the entirety of human intelligence to something measurable in order to feel oppressed, fetch after it. I dont care. I'm about to destroy my lats and see if itll snag me any dimes.

>>16396649
It has nothing to do with wanting the world to be any way, it's simply the way the world is, human populations are not equal in any empirical way, and our ruling class is severely deluded about this, hence the consequences for pointing out the delusion. You can avoid this all you want, you cannot properly argue against it.

>>16396679
>you cannot properly argue against it

You absolutely can, and you should. Different cultures value different things. While it takes a smart man to land on the moon, a proper taoist would look at him and feel he's silly. Are either wrong? No, because there's no objective measure of intelligence. It's not that some cultures are better or smarter, but as YOU yourself said earlier, they're just different. I don't know why that's so hard for you to grasp.

>>16396069
Based

>>16396694
They obviously are smarter/dumber on average, it takes massive amounts of delusion to deny this. You don't have to assign them more or less moral value based on this if you don't want to. Intelligence is not that hard to measure, if it were so fundamentally mysterious we wouldn't even be able to agree on that some people are smart and some people are dumb, something which everyone is very aware of.

>>16396720
>Intelligence is not that hard to measure
Thanks for making it clear to anyone reading this :)

>>16396736
It was reading discussions like this that first made me realize how dumb antiracism is. They never present any real arguments, just try to avoid the issue. Why should it be hard to measure intelligence? Take any task that requires it but doesn't require much knowledge and see how well people do at it. That alone will give you a roughly accurate measure for a population, if not for an individual.

Intelligence is a trait selected for by evolution. It would be weird if it didn't vary by person and population just as as other traits do.

>>16396763
Okay black people have lower iqs on average. Does it make them worse people? No. Should I assume every black person is stupid? Clearly not, at my university there are many minorities that are very intelligent. So why should I be racist? My community is filled with minorites and it's nice, people are friendly and I have never once felt unsafe. Why would I go fuck up my own happiness and peace of mind by being racist?

>>16396826
I would guess there are some black ethnicities that are fairly high average IQ, they're a very genetically diverse bunch of peoples, there really isn't much research on it because of the taboo. Obviously on the whole the sub-continent there seems a bit lower, but it's hard to know how much of that is due to historical/environmental reasons.

In any case there is no reason to judge any individual based on whatever groups he belongs to, apart from the automatic stereotyping that you will do regardless before knowing a person. There is also no reason to hold someone in lower esteem simply because they're lower IQ, there is much more to life than raw intelligence.

>>16396763
>Intelligence is a trait selected for by evolution

Buddy, it's so clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. You've given a lackluster, laughable definition of intelligence (you still agree with IQ... in 2020... really? Malcom in the Middle parodied that 20 years ago-- "Those tests are culturally biased!") and now you're using this malformed definition to justify your stance AGAINST antiracism. That's so fucking dumb. When in reality, and I know you're going to hate to hear this, but there are actually TONS of ways to be intelligent, and there will NEVER be a test that shows whether a person is or not, so whatever these "mountains of evidence" you've alluded to but haven't named (curious, by the way) are, they can probably be safely disregarded because they're offering a very small slice of the issue and pretending it's indicative of the whole, which just wouldn't be the case.

A real intellectual would delve into other cultures, exploring their desires and paths of individual advancement, see how their mindsets achieve those desires and advancements, and use that as a specific measure of intelligence, instead of just slapping a generalized form of specific knowledge that prove whether someone is smart or not, but you're incapable of grasping that. You're incapable of grasping that it's all ungraspable, which is like a freshman year epiphany, mind you, and you've shown that your conceit and arrogance put you away from all your peers. Not above. Just away, because no one wants to deal with your nasty and repulsive personality. You're thoughtless, in every sense of the word, and to be frank, I have no idea why you're on this board. I can all but guarantee you've read very little literature, which requires at the very core to be empathetic to foreign cultures-- for example, one must step outside of modernity to feel the struggles and efforts of Odysseus, or Gilgamesh, or Siegfried, or Lao tsu, or the Bible... or any religious text for that matter. We must accept that these cultures prioritized different things, and are no worse or better than our cultures, but different. It's literally the golden rule they teach you in kindergarten, but I bet your anti-social personality disorder disabled you from engaging with that rule any and has left you an outsider with a shitty, unsupported world view. And now you have to delude yourself into thinking that there's some innate hierarchy to things because you don't want to put in the leg work to figure out the dense stuff, and when you think about it, isn't that the path to stupidity? Laziness? No path at all, just an unwillingness to grow or advance or progress in any way?

And that's the gist of it. You're just dumb. Maybe some groups are smarter than others, maybe not, who knows? The only certainty is that you rank beneath them all, resting uncomfortably, reeking too, probably, underneath the icy, sharp puckerhole of a hungry and chewing satan.

>>16396994
You're wrong about practically everything you've said. It's easy to measure intelligence roughly, IQ does a fine job of it, and shows obvious average differences between populations. You have to believe that I'm all those things you accused me of because you can't think about this subject clearly, because it's part of your religion of antiracism, so you have to think I'm some idiot lacking empathy for other cultures, when you have no actual reason to think that. I'm sorry but sometimes it has to be pointed out how ridiculous all this is.

>>16396994
based critically thinking poster

>>16396100
This

>>16396994
this has to be bait.

>>16397043
He's not thinking critically at all, he went off on a tirade imagining random things about a person he knows absolutely nothing about because I dared contradict his religious belief that everyone must be equal.

>>16396451
>>but anon, ashkenazi jews are the highest IQ ethnic group in the world. aren't you just a nigger to the Jew?
Fake news. Israel's average IQ is below that of Europe.

>>16395949
go back home or lurk until you understand >>16395929

>>16397065
kek

>>16395997
Once upon a time there was a faggot. This faggot had read many great posts on 4chan. These posts were typically long stories which ended with a hilarious punchline which caused the reader to reinterpret the entire post in a new context. The faggot wanted to make such a post himself, but lacked humor or even basic intelligence. But still he persevered, and one day he ended up writing a contrived post which telegraphed its punchline from the opening sentence, and worse still, the punchline was just a cheap pun. That’s more or less where the story ends.

>>16395960
In your ass, OP. You fucking faggot.

>>16396994
Yeah, this poster is correct.

>>16396994
Holy cringe. Get a brain.

>>16397065
lolol he struck a chord. get fucked

>>16396016
Completely and utterly filtered.

>>16396994
you are unironically right, and I say that as a national socialist and white nationalist, this IQ-nationalism bullshit needs to stop, white people don't need to justify their existance and demands. Were the aryan the negro of the human race it would still be every aryan man's duty to stand by his co-racials.

>>16396994
The best anti-racist case, according to you, is "Malcom [sic] In The Middle and my kindergarten teacher said that it's bad, so it must be." Take a look at yourself. You're already drowned in a bog of neoliberal bugman discourse. There are legitimate points to be made but instead you resort to glorified babysitters and globohomo sitcoms. It's not the blacks who are the problem, but whoever is responsible for this degenerate language of thought supplanting all others.

>>16397147
You can't make a single argument, you can't even think about the subject, you're nothing but more evidence of what I'm saying.
>>16397180
I said absolutely nothing indicating I advocate 'iq-nationalism', I even stated a few posts back that you shouldn't focus on it because it doesn't matter that much. It's an empirical question not a moral question, and it is one about which most of our society is very deluded.

>>16397262
quit seething king. you took this L, go home, recoup, try again tomorrow.

>>16397271
Posts like this only serve to reinforce the impression that antiracists have no arguments to make, you would do better to just not say anything.

>>16396826

You're absolutely correct on the level of individual interaction. But collective level, macro-relationally, statistics need to be acknowledged, especially in the realm of immigration.

We had an anon presenting his work-in-progress translation of the Commedia a couple of days ago and of course the thread died within an hour.

>>16397309
Thats super cool

>IQ isn't real, therefore we're all equal
>and even if it's real, it doesn't matter, you should respect everyone unlike those evil nazi white supremacist (who certainly exist!) who read statistics about black people and go on hating every single black person they meet
>and even if it matters, you can't acknowledge it because that would make you a WHITE SUPREMACIST! There is no possible way to neutrally interpret the data. Everything that does not conform to my narrow ideology must be rejected!
It's all so tiresome....

It's immoral and sociopathic to pretend that everyone is of the same intelligence and there are no difference between races. Because then, you try to hold everyone to the same standard and the result is either the standard gets so low that actually smart kids and normal white kids suffer, or low IQ kids suffer because they obviously can't reach an impossible standard.
Gaslighting them like that, claiming that everyone is equal is very sociopathic and disgusting.
Imagine doing the same thing with retarded kids. Getting them into normal classes and telling them that the only reason they fail is because they don't study enough or are lazy. Then shouting at anyone who supports doing separate classes for retarded kids so they can keep up and be happier by "WAAAH YOU JUST WANT TO PRETEND YOURE SUPERIOR! STOP SHOUTING YOUR IQ SO TRIUMPHANTLY".
Leftists are the most hateful and narrow-minded people. They think person's intelligence defines their worth. They think that saying that some group is on average less intelligent is the same as saying they're inferior. They project their own hate towards anyone who tries to question their dogma with science. To them, a person is worth as much as the amount of utility he provides. This view is almost universally rejected by all religious people (right wing people) who view all human life as intrinsically valuable. Leftists reject this notion, they don't think human life has any intrinsic value, which is why they're so supportive of abortion, even going as far as creating trends like "Shout your abortion!". Not only they are hateful and narrow-minded like that, but they're also very inconsistent in the views they hold. If they indeed they believed low IQ people to be less valuable, then the natural conclusion would be to support eugenics by preventing low IQ people from reproducing. After all, the reason the society at large views eugenics on animals and crops as OK and on humans not is because we (sane people) believe humans have intrinsic value that separates us from animals. That's the same reason why we don't kill off our elders, genocide the retarded people etc. Leftists are not sane people like that.
But of course, asking a leftist to recognize their own hypocrisy is asking too much.

>>16395993
It's funny because of people like you.

>>16397390

Automation and technology are unironically ruin the world for people of average and below intelligence. Low skill laborers used to be able to have a decent life. I look at one of my dad's farm hands in the 90s. Guy was probably like Forrest Gump level intelligence but had great work ethic. Able to work enough between our small farm and lawn mowing/odds and end jobs on his own initiative to afford his own apartment. If he'd lived even in just a less rural area of our own state, he'd have been on government assistance from 18 with no hope of gainful employment. When you needed a team of people to lay track or harvest grain, there was a life available for the less than average that kept a cohesive society and didn't alienate them to a life of purposelessness. Add to the mix that we keep importing people that compete for a shriveling low skill strata of society and you get the situation where prospects in black America and legal hispanic Americans and even highschool job America are drying up. It's bad. And the sad fact is you can't save everywhere, that's just life. If we collapse our societies with this suicidal altruism, we'll end up saving no one.

>>16397428

My God, those typos. Maybe I've finally got the brain tumor that killed my grandmother.

>>16397428
I think if we pretend everyone is of the same level of intelligence then things will magically sort themselves out, no?
If someone's not succeeding, just tell them they're lazy and ask them to try harder.

>>16397446

Just ask the short man to stretch harder in a land of increasingly higher shelves.

>>16397455
Just tell the incel to have sex.

>>16396003
>>16396046
>>16397397
I know I took the bait, but look at my post again. Such a simple, mindless reaction gets a bunch of (You)s again, and some pleb called me a religious zealot. It may be an expected reply, but it’s just as effective as the original funny post.

>>16397487

>>16397474
If you indeed wrote that as a joke, it's a good troll, yes. Unfortunately it only works on 4chan.
The nigger word outside of 4chan would universally get reactions like yours and much worse though.

>>16397495

>>16397508
>Posters:1

>>16397496
I don’t think anyone here actually has any kind of reaction to it anymore. I mainly wanted to see how /lit/ reacts to ””criticism”” of the word.

>>16397515
so you can follow my train of thought

>>16396431
> you're not making any sense to us normies
Dilate

>>16396016
>he got filtered by meditation, of all things

>anti /pol/ poster brings up /pol/ in unrelated thread, /pol/ poster feels the need to respond, thread moves to discussion of race and iq, thread is derailed
Tiresome, NGMI, If only you knew..., sneed, peepeepooopooooomer, finnegan's piece of cake

Anyone screencaped that anon who wanted to learn about taoism and butterfly of all people told him he should asked his parents? Shit was gold, but I don't think I've ever seen it in one of the humour threads.

>>16397803
Fuck off, butts. No one finds you funny. You're just annoying.

>>16397837
Anon, I'm twenty something eastern european man. I just think this post was funny and I wonder if someone screencapped it.

>>16397889
Nice mushrooms you got there bud. You pick them yourself?

what about that anon that posted his epic about dragons

>>16395993
N

>>16398049
I

>>16397918
Nicy try FBI. First you throw potato beetles at our fields, what next, snail plague to destroy our mushrooms? Parents did. I am not a big fan of most mushrooms and their mushy structure and stick mostly to chantarelles. From two short trips they've brought home seven buckets of boletes.
>>16398014
It's in the archive, but I believe it might be shitpost as he never delivered whole thing.

>>16391987

>>16398095
>Nicy try FBI.
Idk what you're talking about fren

>tfw none of your effort posts will ever show up in these threads

feelsbadman.jpg

>>16396213
Identitarian?

>>16397547
Laughed so hard I cried

>>16391987
Still not one reply to the greatest get in /lit/ history>>16395107

And I got it. ):

>>16396495
love this one

>>16398333
good post captain trips

>>16396124
Whack job

>>16396016
Want to know how to do this

>>16397508
came here to post this

>>16397515
still the best thing posted itt so far

>>16396451
Whether Jews are smart or not, this doesn't refute any of the /pol/acks' points, it just highlights the complete impossibility of communication between the right and the left in 21st century discourse.
The problem is that the left of today sees the concept of a nation in much looser terms, largely geographic ones - "Americans are whoever lives here." Often even this is seen as a problematic mindset and there are vague attempts to say that rights and privileges afforded to citizens should be extended to anybody who fucking wants them, and if a poor Guatemalan native decides he wants to be an American it is morally reprehensible to not make it so. They don't quite get the mindset of the hypothetical strawman racist because they assume his motivation is to maximize the IQ of his nation, and in the eye of the leftist that would just mean pumping it full of Jews and Asians.
The difference is that people on the right have a massive disconnect in what they consider their nation to be: "real" Americans are an ethnic group, and America should function to further their wellbeing before that of others. Every state on earth operated this way until the 20th century, but whether they do or not, liberal globalism demands they pretend to no longer believe in it. It is perfectly consistent in this paradigm to hate Jews whether they're "superior" or not because they simply aren't on the same team. I don't know if most leftists legitimately don't understand this or if they just pretend not to.

>>16396213
>>16398461
I always thought that was the whole point of calling them "progressives," although admittedly the word is too broad, and I know historically it's been used for much better causes/groups like Teddy Roosevelt's.

>>16392902
Fpbp

>>16391987
im not reading all that shit

>>16396160
Shut the fuck up idiot. You didn't believe it until I said it so fuck off little idiot prick boy. Go vote trump cunt kill yourself

>>16398502
we're already 2/5ths of the way to a new one, and it's been...only 2 months wtf, this board is too goddamn fast

>>16396031
Yeah I don't know if that spirit is still fully alive in France, it's starting to become anglo-style bootstrapping as well here

>>16395060
>posts a few paragraphs saying nigger a lot
>"WTF THIS GUY IS TOTALLY FUCKING NUTS!!!"

>>16396069

Nobody said the Left couldn't brainwash NPC's.

>>16400555
>saying nigger a lot

based and trips checked

ppl itt could rly go the way of Kirillov.

>>16400555

>>16397508
this is hesiod?

>>16399646

>Point out the fakeness of the shitpost equivalent of pic related
>Somehow pat yourself on the back and press send
>Get called out
>HNNGGG ORANGE MAN BAD

Lmao you can't be for real.

>>16396451
They haven't won though, they've just tried their hardest to make it look like they've won. Far-left policies continue to be immensely unpopular and they will keep losing election after election.
Also, realistically there is no 'winning' for either side, just continual change through dialogue. Any one side actually 'winning' just means mass graves in the end.

>>16400027
Indeed, but I don't think the get will be that lucky.

>>16397390
Is that Thom Yorke on the right with the Starbucks?

I don't think that these meme-posts are the best of /lit/ and like most internet memes they usually aren't very funny either, they are just here for the cliquey feeling of /lit/. Re-formulating phenomena among leftists or rightists isn't that interesting either when you have read a few of them.
The best of /lit/ are the reading charts, what to read in which order or what to choose by which author depending on the interest after the first book.
Some of the best posts on /lit/ are imho the ones about the Catcher in the Rye, where anons explain the Holden rapes Phoebe meme. I mean I first thought it was a joke but then anons showed more and more examples and that convinced me in the end. I'm not a burger, where it is a popular reading in school but it seems that this taboo topic isn't being discussed in schools where they read the book.
Either way I have hundreds of the best posts on 4chan saved and will publish them in the future at some point.

>>16396031
Good post, there is some insight in that.

>>16397390
Well put anon. Discussing political topics with these kind of leftists have been very disappointing for me, since they don't tend to be very clever but see themselves as some kind of intellectual elite because they have written a few mediocre term papers, done their fair bit wikipedia-based presentations on Bourdieu - which is the basis for their political opinion. The last book they have read without external force was Harry Potter in middle school and after that they have indulged themselves with stupid propaganda on the level of whatsapp/facebook-memes. They don't read books and the only stuff they can talk about in depth is the stuff they have watched on Netflix.

To come back to your point: in my experience usually the younger people are, the more they see intelligence as the most important factor in measuring a person's worth. Not just the leftists and the liberals, also the not-so-much political ones. The older they get the less harsher they get in that regard and being a good and decent person becomes important. I see first changes in that attitude in their late twenties.
Being with religious people is much nicer, since they value virtue and goodness more than intelligence or political loyalty. And it shows in their behaviour.

>>16402748
>look at all these silly things I presume and take me seriously!
kek

>>16397495
Im beyond dedddd