/lit/ - Literature

>>16268885
absolutely based

Germany is some >95% ethnically white, I don't think it's gonna become an "arab" country anytime soon. Also, there's no reason to suspect that the Dalai Lama has any particular authority on matters of sociopolitical policy, which really makes me think whenever people post this old ass quote.

>>16268900
>95% white

not anymore

>old quote

2018?

>>16268900
>Germany is some >95% ethnically white
No it is not.
>I don't think it's gonna become an "arab" country anytime soon.
tl;dr you can only start caring about issues when it's too late to do anything about and if you try then you've simply fallen for the slippery slope fallacy

>>16268900
look at demographics for 15 and under and you'll see how long it'll take for germany to turn minority white

Maybe we shouldn't keep bombing the middle east, maybe we shouldn't let bourgeoisie promote immigration to lower the wages.

The reason there are immigrants in Europe is because we terrorized their homelands and they need refuge. Brown people aren't conspiring to replace white people, they just want safety and freedom. Mass immigration is a side effect of warfare, and the same people who parade around nationalist values are the ones who caused these problems.

He has also said, exact quote "keep europe for europeans".

He knows that a genocide is coming.

>>16268900
No one asked what you think.

>>16268977
No retard, wars in the middle east are started by international capitalists, not by nationalists. Nationalists don't want these wars. If it's refuge those people need, they can be taken up by other arab countries in the neighbourhood. You're amazingly disingenuous.

>>16269014
Imagine if we had some kind of internationalist global federation that could nip human rights atrocities in the bud..

>>16268900
Back to /pol/

This is a thread about buddhism

>>16268885
"Right Wing Dharma Squads" on Youtube have pretty good rundowns of these things.

You shouldn't be surprised that a religion which fundamentally tries to minimize suffering despises psychos who promote hedonistic sex, careless drug use abandonment of standards and responsibility, forced charity to un-saveable retard and the decay of culture itself. Liberals exist as demons to produce suffering, erode things and disturb every ontology.

>>16268977
Holy kek you are stupid.

>>16268885
read MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjun

>>16269108
You're delusional if you think Buddhism is fascistic. The entire point of Buddhism is that things are always changing

>>16269165
>let me, a white, upper middle class, college educated atheist tell you why actual Buddhists are wrong. Buddhists are not stoic. Do you not remember what happened after those Muslims walked into a Buddhist temple and gunned them all down? Let me remind you.

>>16269165
Yes, Samsara sucks, which is why you choose either choose Left hand path to escape it or Right hand path to work within it. I'm right hand path.

But anyway You're crazy if you think Buddhism opposes a people collectively defending themselves from cultural and civilizational calamities.

Do we suffer more under Transcendental Monarchy or Atheist Psycho Globohomo Democra-beurocracy?

>>16268927
What you don't seem to understand is that racial identity is put upon everyone beyond their own control.
It's irrelevant if "race" exists or not as a biological factor. It's in my direct self-interest to benefit the group I belong to.

>>16269201
People suffered a lot under monarchy, tolerating gay people isn't suffering

>>16269014
Most of them are not Arabs but genetically European

What are the essential racist buddha readings?

>>16269028
No retard, that federation would be bought by international capitalists and nothing changes except they have even more power. Why would one federation decide for the entire world what himan rights and human rights violations are? Globalism / internationalism isn't the answer, it's the problem.

>>16269231
You seem to confuse material and spiritual suffering as the same.

>>16269242
Fine, doesn't change that there are countries around their own countries that are closer to their culture than some european nation all the way across another continent. We shouldn't be responsible for cleaning up the mess other people (international capitalists) made.

>>16269247
Unironically the pali canon i.e. the original buddhist texts.
Here, the Buddha debates the brahmins who insult him, referring to them as "mutts" or "niggers"

>>16269223
There will be no economic or political justice for the poor, people of color, women or workers within the framework of global, corporate capitalism. Corporate capitalism, which uses identity politics, multiculturalism and racial justice to masquerade as politics, will never halt the rising social inequality, unchecked militarism, evisceration of civil liberties and omnipotence of the organs of security and surveillance. Corporate capitalism cannot be reformed, despite its continually rebranding itself. The longer the self-identified left and liberal class seek to work within a system that the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin calls “inverted totalitarianism,” the more the noose will be tightened around our necks. If we do not rise up to bring government and financial systems under public control—which includes nationalizing banks, the fossil fuel industry and the arms industry—we will continue to be victims.

Corporate capitalism is supranational. It owes no loyalty to any nation-state. It uses the projection of military power by the United States to protect and advance its economic interests but at the same time cannibalizes the U.S., dismantling its democratic institutions, allowing its infrastructure to decay and deindustrializing its factory centers to ship manufacturing abroad to regions where workers are treated as serfs.

Resistance to this global cabal of corporate oligarchs must also be supranational. It must build alliances with workers around the globe. It must defy the liberal institutions, including the Democratic Party, which betray workers. It is this betrayal that has given rise to fascist and protofascist movements in Europe and other countries. Donald Trump would never have been elected but for this betrayal. We will build a global movement powerful enough to bring down corporate capitalism or witness the rise of a new, supranational totalitarianism.

>>16269264
Yada yada yada

>>16269264
>or witness the rise of a new, supranational totalitarianism
Sounds based

>>16269264
Nationalization is a good solution to the problem which is as much the state as it is corporations? China's commanding heights are nationalized.

>>16268927
>communist
>economics
Hardy kek anon, stop listening to Cockshott

>>16269263
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

> Gautama Buddha (c. 6th to 4th centuries BCE), whose teachings became the foundation of Buddhism,[note 2] was the best-known Shakya. He was known in his lifetime as "Siddhartha Gautama" and "Shakyamuni" (Sage of the Shakyas). He was the son of Śuddhodana, the elected leader of the Śākya Gaṇarājya
> The Shakyas were considered outside of the Āryāvarta and of ‘mixed origin’ (saṃkīrṇa-yonayaḥ, possibly part Aryan and part indigenous). The laws of Manu treats them as being non Aryan. As noted by Levman, "The Baudhāyana-dharmaśāstra (1.1.2.13–4) lists all the tribes of Magadha as being outside the pale of the Āryāvarta; and just visiting them required a purificatory sacrifice as expiation" (In Manu 10.11, 22).[13] This is confirmed by the Ambaṭṭha Sutta, where the Sakyans are said to be "rough-spoken", "of menial origin" and criticised because "they do not honour, respect, esteem, revere or pay homage to Brahmans."[16] Some of the non-Vedic practices of this tribe included incest (marrying their sisters), the worship of trees, tree spirits and nāgas.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakya

>>16269579
>The Shakyas were considered outside of the Āryāvarta and of ‘mixed origin’ (saṃkīrṇa-yonayaḥ, possibly part Aryan and part indigenous). The laws of Manu treats them as being non Aryan. As noted by Levman, "The Baudhāyana-dharmaśāstra (1.1.2.13–4) lists all the tribes of Magadha as being outside the pale of the Āryāvarta; and just visiting them required a purificatory sacrifice as expiation" (In Manu 10.11, 22).[13] This is confirmed by the Ambaṭṭha Sutta, where the Sakyans are said to be "rough-spoken", "of menial origin" and criticised because "they do not honour, respect, esteem, revere or pay homage to Brahmans."[16] Some of the non-Vedic practices of this tribe included incest (marrying their sisters), the worship of trees, tree spirits and nāgas.[17]
That's because the Sakyas entered Nepal way later than the vedic tribes. The sakyas were scythians, and had fair skin and blue eyes. The brahmins were the equivalents of amerimutts at this point.
Read the next post:

>>16269647
"Reverend Gotama, there are four castes: The Khattiyas, the Brahmins, the merchants and the artisans. And of these four castes, three – the Khattiyas, the merchants, and the artisans – are entirely subservient to the Brahmins." This was the third time Ambattha accused the Sakyans of being menials.

Then the Lord thought, "This young man goes too far is abusing the Sakyans. Suppose I were to ask after his clan name?" So he said, "Ambattha, what is your clan?"

"I am a Kanhayan, Reverend Gotama."

"Ambattha, in former days, according to those who remember the ancestral lineage, the Sakyans were the masters, and you are descended from a slave girl of the Sakyans. For the Sakyans regard to king Okkaka, to whom his queen was dear and beloved, wishing to transfer the kingdom to her son, banished his elder brothers from the kingdom – Okkamukha, Karandu, Hatthiniya, and Sinipura. And these, being banished, made their home on the flank of the Himalayas beside a lotus pond where there was a growth of teak-trees. And for fear of contaminating their stock they cohabitated with their own sisters. Then King Okkaha asked his ministers and counselors, "Where are the princes living now?" And they told him. At this, King Okkaha exclaimed, "They are strong as Saka trees, these princes, they are real Sakyans!" And this how the Sakyans go their well-known name. And the king was the ancestor of the Sakyans.

"Now King Okkaha has a slave girl called Disa, who gave birth to a Kanha [dirty, black] child. The black thing, when it was born, exclaimed, "Wash me, mother! Bath me, mother! Deliver me from this dirt and I will bring you profit!" Because, Ambattha, just as people today use the term hobgoblin as a term of abuse, so in those days did they say Kanha. And they said, "As soon as he was born, he spoke! He is born a Kanha, a hobgoblin!" That is how, in former days according to those who remember the ancestral lineage, the Sakyans were the masters, and you are descended from a slave girl of the Sakyans."

On hearing this, the young men said, "Reverend Gotama, do not humiliate Ambattha too much with talk of his being descended from a slave girl: Ambattha is well born, of a good family, he is very learned, he is well-spoken, a scholar, well able to hold his own in this discussion with the Reverend Gotama!"

Then the Lord said to the young men, "If you consider that Ambattha is ill-born, not of good family, unlearned, ill-spoke, unable to hold his own in this discussion with the ascetic Gotama, then let Ambattha be silent, and you conduct this discussion with me. But if you think he is well born, of a good family, he is very learned, he is well-spoken, a scholar, able to hold his own, then you be quiet and let him discuss with me."

"Ambattha is well born, Reverend Gotama, of a good family, he is very learned, he is well-spoken, a scholar, able to hold his own. We shall be silent, he shall continue."
1/2

>>16269652
Then the Lord said to Ambattha, "Ambattha, I have a fundamental question for you, which you will not like to answer. If you don’t answer, or if you evade the issue, if you keep silent or go away, your head will split into seven pieces. What do you think, Ambattha? Have you heard from old and venerable Brahmins, teachers of teachers, where the Kanhayans came from, or who was their ancestor?"

At this, Ambattha remained silent, and the lord said,

"Answer me now, Ambattha, this is not the time for silence. Whoever, Ambattha, does not answer a fundamental question put to him by a Tathágata by the third asking has his head split into seven pieces."

And at that moment Vajrapani the Yaksha, [This god is also called "Indra." He is ready to make good on the mytho mentioned above. The old gods are supporting the new religion. Vajrapani also appears as a Bodhisattva in later Mahayana Sutras.—BIONA Webmaster] holding up a huge iron club, flaming, ablaze and glowing, up in the sky just above Ambattha was thinking, "If this young man does not answer a proper question put to him by the Blessed Lord by the third time of asking, I’ll split his head into seven pieces!" The Lord saw Vajrapani, and so did Ambattha. And at the sight, Ambattha was terrified and unnerved, his hairs stood on end, and he sought protection, shelter, and safety from the Lord. Crouching down close to the Lord, he said, "What did the Reverend Gotama say? May the Reverend Gotama repeat what he said!"

"What do you think, Ambattha? Have you heard from old and venerable Brahmins, teachers of teachers, where the Kanhayans came from, or who was their ancestor?"

"Yes, I have heard it just as the Reverend Gotama said, that is where the Kanhayans came from, he was their ancestor"

Hearing this, the young men made a loud noise and clamor, "So Ambattha is ill-born, not of a good family, born of a slave girl of the Sakyans, and the Sakyans are Ambattha’s masters! We disparages the Ascetic Gotama, thinking he was not speaking the truth!"

it's hilarious to me that right-wingers seem to think they've got a "gotcha" with this quote, as if leftists were relying on Dalai Lama to solve immigration kek. who care what this bald faggot thinks about geopolitics?
Anyways where are the jannies?

>>16269548
>>16269264
You known that the obvious solution is going to be a one world government right? People who think a nationalist awakening will solve the problem are literal based retards, there really is only one option at this point and I think everyone could see it's coming inevitable

>>16269662
>one world government
if only, that would require cooperation. It's more likely heading into a new world war.

>>16269662
How is that the obvious solution? One world government will be the most powerful institution ever, thus making it highly susceptible to corruption, and with the power it has it will create worldwide tyranny like never seen before. You seem to have missed the human factor.

>>16269662
Humans cannot cooperate on such a grand scale, we always seek ways to distinguish our own group from another group, be it through religion, race, ideology, etc.

>>16269703
Nigga human tribes have been consistently expanding for thousands of years, just because you can't fathom it doesnt mean the coming generations won't see it as normal as people once saw nationalism

>>16269726
At the expense of other tribes, retard

>>16269682
A world war in this age will result in a cataclysmic extinction event, it's likely to be averted by a rising order of some kind.

>>16268977
>>16269014
you are both right.

>>16269734
That's how it's always been, even eating comes at the expense of animal deaths

>>16269754
Yes, which means the same goes for one world government. It will eventually split and the only thing gained will be more war. Thanks for proving my point.

>>16269201
I dunno doc, seems to me you can opt out of the atheism. Not so much out of poverty and disease.

>>16268977
Complete nonsense. A small minority of migrants come from countries like Libya and Syria.

>>16269762
Not necessarily, most people will accept the new world order just as they've excepted nationstates in the past

>>16269762
War will always come, and so will peace. If there will be a world government, it will collapse. If there will be several nations, they will bicker and war. Suffering will happen no matter what you do. Accept that or escape.

>>16269691
This. It'll be China on steroids.

>>16269783
And how are those doing nowadays? One world government is not the obvious solution, it has all the defects of current and previous systems except with power on a grander scale than ever before.

>>16269264
>nationalize banks
>reject international capitalism
>defy liberal institutions
>place the workers first

NO ANON NO

>>16269819
Most people desire safety over hypothetical freedom which is why it will happen. I'm not saying there won't be pushback, but one the larger scale people are conforming to one mind. Fascists vs radical leftists are part of the fringes unknowingly helping to prepare this new collective mind

>>16269871
I think it's going to be more of a world wide coalition and more city states type of governments.

>>16269884
Yeah, it will be a global federation all conforming to one mind. Technology will definently play an critical role

>>16269871
>>16269884
>>16269905
That's not a one world government though. And while that suggestion is more workable, it will still inevitably end in wars between those states/federations or revolution because of tyranny, thus the end of the one world government /coalition. One world government won't solve a thing, no, it will only exacerbate the current issues. You don't seem to understand how humans operate.

>>16269954
Imagine the world economy, trade, and distribution being handled by a supercomputer ai monarch. We're going to come to an era where human problems wont be solved by human brain power but infinitely efficient computers

>>16270003
I'd rather not. Efficient =/= good.

>>16269827
>come back papi

>>16269647
No, it's because the text was compiled in like 200AD and the Buddha's clan weren't practitioners of proper Hinduism. "Aryan" had stopped having any ethnic component thousands of years prior (the Manusmrti, the text cited, mentions coal black pure Dravidians as being "Aryan", for example, because they practice proper Hinduism).

It even says so right in the passage: they don't listen to Brahmins or pay tithe to them, they engage with spirits outside of the Hindu order, and have practices that violate Hindu purity laws.

>>16269662
>one-world government
>fueled by a limited resource
No, the solution is collapse.

>>16269659
It's the right wing version of bringing up Jesus kicking out the merchants to justify rioting

>>16270184
Not really. At all, in fact.

>>16270003
No we won't.

>>16270199
>You guys like this Dalai Lama guy but he says immigration bad? Checkmate libtards
>You guys like Jesus and hate rioting but Jesus broke stuff once? Checkmate conservatards

>>16270219
The two have nothing in common. The Dalai Lama is saying that demographic replacement is bad because he thinks its bad and the Buddha said such things are bad. Jesus kicked the moneylenders out of the temple for violating Jewish law. Using that as justification for these state sponsored religious festivals is just flat out disingenuous and you know it.

>>16268977
>every far-right anti-immigration party is ultra-zionist
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>16270219
Conservatives are liberals you mong

>>16268885
Why is this /pol/tard thread still up, holy shit

>>16271638
How is Buddhism /pol/

>>16269691
Good. I want to see it happen, I don't care what they do to people. Just try to join in before it completely takes over

>>16268977
>>16268927
detecting high levels of cope

>>16269775
You are clearly an idiot who doesn't understand dharma or karma. If your spirit is shit then you incarnate into shit and get exactly what you deserve.

Blind Charity is not a requirement of buddhist practice and for good reason.

Bodhisattvas are still allowed to use their good judgement to decide who is worth helping.

>>16269247
The Cremator, by Karl Kopfrkingl

Here's the intro

>>16268977
That motherfucking brainwashed normie.

>>16271828
Which Buddhist texts should I read if I want Buddhism but without all the sissifying moralfagging about not fishing or going to war? Books that are authoritative enough to count as canonical.by the wider Buddhist community and also deep enough to on their own to explain the depth of the Buddhist religion, without the cucked parts of Buddhism.

I know some Mahayana sects for example basically only care about the Lotus Sutra.

>>16268927
>we shouldn't keep bombing the middle east
Someone has to do it or they will invade certain country goy

>>16269028
Yes because groups like the UN did such a good job preventing the civil wars in Syria and Lybia from escalating. Fuck this board

>>16269652
>Now King Okkaha has a slave girl called Disa, who gave birth to a Kanha [dirty, black] child. The black thing, when it was born, exclaimed, "Wash me, mother! Bath me, mother! Deliver me from this dirt and I will bring you profit!" Because, Ambattha, just as people today use the term hobgoblin as a term of abuse, so in those days did they say Kanha. And they said, "As soon as he was born, he spoke! He is born a Kanha, a hobgoblin!"
Epicc

>>16269662

>>16268927
Maybe if the middle east didn't bomb us first we wouldn't have to bomb them. And what's wrong with killing a few dictators who gas their own people while we go on a holy terrorist stomping crusade to add spreading good ol' democracy and capitalism to the agenda?

>>16268885
Here buddy, try this.

>>16272536
>both a nationalist and a socialist
woah he's just getting more and more based

>>16272352
Ignore the chart. In the Buddha's Words, or What the Buddha Taught. Pick one, read it. Then go read Red Pine's Heart Sutra.

>>16272352
>Buddhism but without all the sissifying moralfagging
that’s like saying how can I drink water without getting my mouth wet

>>16269652
>a Kanha [dirty, black] child
Didn't realise till now, that's why Krishna is also called Kanha or Kanhayia.

>>16268900
>Germany is some >95% ethnically white,
using an american racial term to describe any country outside of it.
You are so absolutely fucking retarded.
Some 25% of the country is NOT german. Even if many will be poles, croats, frenchies, americans, russians, etc does not mean they are germans. You call them white but they are practically as foreign as the turks, arabs, chinks, subsuharans, etc.
Germany ahs an incredible perverse way of perserving its german dominance by having youth education split into three groups, with the lowest and worst being dominated by the foreigners, the middle a more healthy mix but the top near entirely german (this is due to various reasons, and not true for every state as their commie green faggots don't like that so they drag their whole system down to the level of apes and pretend grades in Berlin and Bavaria are the same, which they are not).
It is kind of gross how easily it can be to live in a big city and have a life where you do not see that many foreigners except for at your restaurants or the few wealthy educated ones from abroad (the life all my ignorant friends like to say is the norm in germany).
But if you dont live in the sub urbs but in a inner part of the city that is not the decadent part you will live in 50% foreigners and your supermarkets will be fully employing foreign trash and every cheap shop will be run by some brown or slavic person.
The more the push here in Germany continues as is in America where everyone jsut has be fine with their current affairs and not mind what is happening in a bad neighborhood on the other side of town this will all jsut get worse.
All the asshole Green voting law and business students who never have to live with the filth just tell the lower working class people to not mind having abduhl and Quequeg next to Lashinka and Dimitri at their job.
I really hate all the well off people continuously voting and preaching for more of the virtue signaling attitude. All my family is like this and from my friends I know only 2 who show heistant behavior toward these attitudes so ubiquitous amongst the decently off people.

>>16272868
>What the Buddha Taught
Read it.
>Red Pine's Heart Sutra
Thanks, i'll check it out.
>>16272918
Seems to me Buddhist morality beyond mere training disciplines are part of a Buddhist noble lie. I've even read a certain famous Buddhist monk who said as much.

>>16273124
Buddhist Morality is a raft. Buddhism itself is a raft. Once you've crossed the river, you no longer need the raft. In this sense, yes, "don't go to war" is only based on "minimize killing" which is really rooted in how Karma works. It is possible for a Bodhisattva for cut your head off without generating any karma, to do so with no attachment.

But you are not a Bodhisattva, so you need the raft, so you can't kill, so you can't go to war. Are there scenarios where these things are acceptable for us non-Bodhisattvas? Yes. Buddhist legalism is "Anti-Talmudic" in this sense, as the spirit of the law matters more than the letter of the law. So yes, Buddhist Morality is indeed a Noble Lie, but YOU need to believe that lie in order to get across the river.

Also, Red Pine's Heart Sutra is really good because he not only translates it but puts his own (He's a Westerner who has spent his life studying East Asian texts) commentary alongside that of like a dozen historical masters. It's essentially the Buddhist Nicene Creed, in that every single word is precisely chosen for technical reasons to convey a specific message (its place in history differs from the Nicene Creed, but they sort of do the same thing). It's a good introduction to the Mahayana, because it demonstrates the galaxy brain stuff while not losing sight of the fact that we're all just dudes and dudettes with mundane lives.

>>16273124
> Buddhist noble lie
does Buddha ever endorse lying in the Pali Canon or call it noble? If not, why do Buddhists think it’s okay to lie?

>>16268977
This is such a fucking retarded take, but it is painfully common. Good bait my man.

>>16268885
Try the writings of Pannobhassa Mahathera...

http://thebahiyablog.blogspot.com/2015/04/happiness-kicks-butt.html

>>16269827
>tfw Hitler would unironically have helped the environmental crisis more than almost anyone else

>>16273261
Minimization of lies is the Fourth Precept. It's not "okay to lie" in Buddhism.

The "Noble Lie" is not a lie in the colloquial sense, however.

>>16268900
Germany being 90% white is fucking disgusting when you remember it's in Europe and whites don't have another homeland when they lose Europe.
I hate these mutt Americans so fucking much for you exporting your shitty politics all over the world.

>>16268900
>any time soon
hah

>>16273090
The Kanha Buddha is talking about is actually Krishna. Buddha praises him later, in the same sutta. He just needed to btfo Ambattha first

>>16273355
But Krishna has a totally different birth story.

>>16268885
Someone ask the Dalai Lama what he thinks of blacked

>>16273365
The backgrounds of those characters are muddy and not clear. They don't have to be coherent with each other. Even in other mythologies it works like that, but with induism even more so.
We do know that Ambattha's ancestor (the Kanha) that Buddha is referring to is Krishna

>>16272352
>>16273124

ignore >>16272868 he doesn't know what he's talking about the chart is based.

>>16273365
Same anon, who doesnt know anything about buddhism
Why did buddhism have to go all organised religion anyways? It feels like they ended up setting up another Hinduism to me. Wonder what Gautama's opinion would've been about Sufism and similar "faiths"

>>16273411
He wouldn't have had an opinion because they weren't around at the time.

>>16273411
It always had an exoteric and an esoteric division.
It became India's state religion with Emperor Ashoka, but was abandoned soon afterwards.
Initially only male kshatriyas were allowed to follow the Buddha, but then he allowed male bhikkus from other classes

>>16273430
Yeah i meant what his opinions would be if they were around back then. I've only recently started reading sufi literature, along with some Kabir. And as an atheist i think those are the ideas id most happily stick to if i had to pick a religion.

>>16273411
>Why did buddhism have to go all organised religion anyways?
Only Tibetan Mahayana Buddhism is organised I think

>>16273458
He wouldn't have had an opinion because he would have been too far away to know about them.

>>16273411
Sufism posits the existence of a Self, so it's just another wrong view.

As to your first question, it really isn't. Outside of monastic organizations (which have to be in order to ensure proper doctrine, practice, etc), there isn't really a single "Buddhism". Most Asian languages setup "Being a Buddhist" as "a practitioner of certain practices associated with the Buddha's Doctrines". The Chinese terms for Buddhism are 大道 (da4dao4) and 佛教 (fo2jiao4). The first means "the Great Way", the second means "teachings of the Buddha". There is no exclusivity as found in Abrahamic religions. It's possible for two followers of the Buddha two do entirely unrelated things towards the same goal. There is no one-size-fits-all with Buddhism.

>>16273464
Nichiren is pretty organized, it even has excommunication. Buddhism is not an organized religion, but an organizations religion. There's many groups and schools and teachings and organizations. It's closer to Protestant Christianity in this manner than it is to Catholicism or Orthodoxy, which both posit one single "correct" Organization (in theory. In practice...).

>>16269193
The Buddhist Indians literally let themselves be killed during the Muslim invasions. The overwhelming majority of Indian resistance fighters were Hindus.

>>16268885
>>16268900
>>16268917
Of course Germany shouldn’t be an Arab country. It belongs to the TVRK

>>16273487
>Sufism posits the existence of a Self
Guess i dont know much about sufism either yet. I just like the poetry/qawalli that tries to love God like you would a lover. No idea about their ideas of the afterlife/rebirth/self. I just said sufism because as a noob i feel like sufis, sikhs and kabir said pretty much the same things and I wondered what the bigger religions think of these..spinoffs

>>16273437
> It always had an exoteric and an esoteric division
buddha denied this in the PC

>>16273437
> Initially only male kshatriyas were allowed to follow the Buddha, but then he allowed male bhikkus from other classes
source?

>>16273561
Well, the Self is God, so it's sort of in line with Buddhism in that YOU don't have a Self, but God does.

>>16273592
That doesn't mean that one couldn't develop, however. In the sense of there being some monks who don't get the esoteric stuff, yes, there is no division. For monks. The Buddha also affirms that there was just going to be a monastic-laity dichotomy, however, so an esoteric (monk) exoteric (laity) system is sort of inevitable. There's nothing locked behind gates or anything (ignore Vajrayana), but there's still a dichotomy.