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Philosophy is useless, there is only what is true and what is untrue. Start reading CS Lewis and the Bible.

>> No.16259882

>>16259871
Nice philosophy you got there.

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>>16259871
based

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I've yet to see anyone refute this

>> No.16259897

Ok.

I read the Secret Book of John, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Thomas, and Thunder first.

It appears C.S. Lewis may be right in some arguments, but he is worshiping Yahweh, aka, Yaldaboath, not contemplating and gaining knowledge of Ein Soph, the Monad, through its comprehensible emanations borne through the Barbelo.

Salvation = Gnosis
Gnosis = Salvation

Read the suppressed Gnostic Gospels!

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>>16259871
>american 'irony'

>> No.16259908

It's weird how /lit/ is extremely elitist but falls head over heels for new age spiritualists like charls

>> No.16259908,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>16259871
What does it mean to be true or untrue? What is useful? On what authority are your answers based?

Cute but dumb

>> No.16259961

>>16259871
>Philosophy is useless
Wrong. Philosophy can make you funnier

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>>16259871
>Start reading CS Lewis and the Bible.

>> No.16260166

>>16259871
and chesterton

>> No.16260254

>>16260166
If you read Chesterton you would know he's very pro philosophy.

>> No.16260281

>>16259871
>Philosophy is useless, there is only what is true and what is untrue
nice philosophy you have ther

>> No.16260772

>>16260254
Shut the fuck up egghead

>> No.16260780

>>16259871
how about i'm doing none of it

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>>16259897
Gnostic goofus. Prove the historicity of ANY of those texts.

>> No.16260866

>>16259871
When you are living in accordance with nature, philosophy is useless and nonsensical. Its purpose either ends in coping with the way things are or doing what we should have been the whole time.

>> No.16260871

>>16260772
Begone, Christtard. You don't even know what these Christian thinkers said and exist in a savage world of illusion. Literally every last one of your precious church fathers got their ideas from filthy, boy-fucking pagan Greeks. You cling to your idolatrous symbols without any depth of understanding as to what they mean behind the veil of your own anxious consciousness. Hail satan.

>> No.16260946

>>16259908
>/lit/ is extremely elitist
What? We are nowhere near elitist enough

>> No.16262189

Pure and mirthpilled

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>>16259871
Based Charls poster. Anyone up for some Skoal?

https://youtu.be/rPmastvJfds?t=178

>> No.16262198

>>16259871
>Philosophy is useless,
True, for most people.
>there is only what is true and what is untrue.
False.

Philosophy without the power to influence other people and affect change is pointless. You can think and think about the state of the world for your entire life in your bedroom in mommy's house but it will never mean anything no matter what conclusion you arrive at.

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>>16259908
Charls is NOT a new age spiritualist you pleb, you MUST feel that earnestness to know it.

>> No.16262210

>>16260780
Not me, not never.

>> No.16262217

>>16259871
nigga you a parmenidean? Wtf bro

>> No.16262227

>>16262196
Charls is unironically a cinematic genius. Just look at all the great shorts he has made, Mr. Pregnant there, TMWWNBWTMHTB, Atlanta Living, Outdoor Living, and who knows what else.

>> No.16262239

>>16262196
whats underrated is how difficult it is to find that version of the song at the start of the video. usually its not woodwind instruments. youtube doesn't have it anymore. spotify doesn't. i don't know where you even find it at this point

>> No.16262264

>>16260789
Appeal to history
Even if they aren't historically "authentic" that doesn't decrease their value in any way. Shit on the actual literature, not the history surrounding it

>> No.16262344

>>16260866
Ultra based

>> No.16262355

>>16262208
Charls is of average IQ. He cannot improv worth a damn. In that skit you posted specifically he just stammers for 30 seconds and Sam carries the rest. He's only funny when he's awkward and fucking his lines up.

>> No.16262387

>>16259871
what if i don't want to follow the great based offshoot of judaism? what if i want to be free?

>> No.16262393

>>16262355
as much as i love MDE and charls you are 100% right

>> No.16262419

>>16260866
Taoism wins once again.

>> No.16262502

ecelebs are useless. they guarantee nothing but the untrue.

>> No.16262631

>>16262264
>that doesn't decrease their value in any way
Of course it does if part of what makes up their value is their historicity, if a book claims to be from a time and place but has no basis for it you're probably a retard for thinking it has the same value it had before. The actual literature isn't removed from the history around it in this particular case, it's like when you say A leads to B in a particular case and provide data for it but some retard who just downloaded the list of logical fallacies jpeg starts screaming "SLIPPER SLOOOOOOOPE" like he just made an insightful comment.

>> No.16262957

>>16259871
who is this young negro? i know his name is charls carrol and he sucks sam hyde's jewish penis whole, but what else does he do? what is he like? what's his deal? what's his endgame? what's he about? is he just another boring trad reactionary?

>> No.16262966

>>16259871
Truth is a social construct. You can only know what your senses present to you and you can't be sure it's true.

>> No.16262990

>>16260866
Okay levin

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>>16260789
Prove it for the garbage included in the Bible. I cringed so hard when "Jesus" said one should sell everything they own, give it to the poor, and leave your family to follow "Jesus". Family and capitalism are essential to Christianity.

>> No.16263011

>>16260789
prove the historicity of the Genesis account

>> No.16263770

>>16259871
>Philosophy is useless, there is only what is true and what is untrue. Start reading CS Lewis and the Bible.
Philosophy is useless! Now read the philosophy I think is true!

>> No.16263826

>>16262355
That's a bad example of Charles, in many videos he's incredibly funny in his improv. But I agree Sam and Nick are of course generally the better improvisers and performers. But I don't think that makes Charls "average iq", he's just the most introverted of them. For example he's very /lit/ in his interests, definitely out of the three of them, like reading Heidegger and Goethe, and from what I can see regularly recommending them books, he also was the brains behind many of MDE's sketches, hence why Sam now sticks more so to improvisational comedy, and Charles to his streaming life and the occasional short-production.

>> No.16263832

>>16262387
Judaism is a reaction against Christianity.

>> No.16263840

>>16262993
>not understanding context

>> No.16263848

>>16262355
The stuff he was making 10 years ago without sam is incredibly good.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeW2Nf3noHI

>> No.16263884

>>16263840
>muh context
>if I have to do it or it’s wrong, it was a metaphor all along

>> No.16264093

For me its seraphim rose.

>> No.16264121

>>16259871
Where do I start with CS Lewis ?

>> No.16264135

>>16263832
Not exactly. Jews who believed in Jesus became christian, Jews who didn't believe in Jesus as the messiah remained in Judaism. In the end they share a lot of values and beliefs, mostly originated from jews, judaism and their mythos.

>> No.16264149

thought the same thing when I read Meditations this year, literally just better off reading scripture. Meditations felt like a waste of time compared to just reading The Bible. Ironic enough, when I was reading it, I was also reading Acts and when Paul goes to talk with the stoic philosophers kinda made me want to abandon finishing Meditations all together. Based poster

>> No.16264162

>>16263884
No anon, you're just retarded.

>> No.16264174

>>16262966
If you want to operate at the level of a newborn infant, this is pretty good advice.

>> No.16264179

>>16263848
Does he have a slight lisp here?

>> No.16264188

>>16264135
Rejecting Jesus was something major anon, and defined their religion.

>> No.16264195

>>16259908
Adulthood is realizing Nick is the funniest of them all. His parking lot genie episode was fantastic.

>> No.16264221

>>16264179
He has braces at this point which is probably what you are hearing

>> No.16264315

>>16264221
How old was he here? Do you know when he was born?

>> No.16264370

>>16264121
Narnia

>> No.16264387

>>16259871
>there is only what is true and what is untrue
>t. Plato, a philosopher

>> No.16264391

>>16260871
>boy-fucking pagan Greeks
Plato didn’t fuck boys

>> No.16264395

>>16259871
What is true and what is untrue?

>> No.16264401

>>16264174
How do you prove what you see is real?

>> No.16264429

>>16264370
If you're actually srs I've seen the movies.
Should I also read the books ?

>> No.16264492

>>16264429
He's fucking with you. Read The Screwtape Letters for fiction or Mere Christianity for non-fiction. Read Chesterton after that.

>> No.16264516

>>16264492
Ok lmao.

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>>16259871
>there is only what is true and what is untrue
Agree.
>the Bible
But how do we know that the Bible is the truth? It's bunch of myths (Genesis, Exodus) and legends (everything about David and Solomon) mixed with real historical events.
And when it comes to the NT, you can't possibly know if it's true or not. You just have to believe it. That's basically what Jesus himself says throughout the gospels.
>>16259897
Cringe.

>> No.16264770

>>16264401
You can’t and it probably isn’t real insofar as something would satisfy extremely high standards of something being real. If something is real in relation to your goals and what you want, then it is real to you generally. When you cannot manipulate your surroundings to accomplish what you want, you might start saying that your surroundings aren’t real anyway.

>> No.16264782

>>16259871
>Philosophy is useless
>Swallow this tasty tasty bs, and live foreeeeeever
Fuck off dude

>> No.16264788

>>16259871
>Start reading CS Lewis and the Bible.
If you weren't a complete retard, you would know that this is exactly what philosophy helps you guard against.

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>>16264387
Come now and I shall tell, and do you receive through hearing the tale,
which are the only ways of inquiry for thinking:
the one: that it is and that is not possible to be,
this I declare to you is an utterly inscrutable track,
for neither could you know what is not (for it cannot be accomplished),
nor could you declare it [or: point it out].

>> No.16266009

>>16264741

>But how do we know that the Bible is the truth

Because if you apply what the Bible teaches, it works, that's true enough for me.
If it can cut down a tree, it's an axe to me.

>> No.16266014

>>16259871
>ywn drink from the sapphire waters of malacandra

>> No.16267258

>You wanna know about Antarctica?

>> No.16267299

>>16264788
>"all philosophy shows the illogicality of religion"
*tips*.

>> No.16267339

>>16259871
Look up the etymology for "philosophy" and feel dumb for making this thread.