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Has anyone here read all the holy books of the major religions? How would you rank them?

>> No.16216952,1 [INTERNAL] 

the bitch cant read she folded half the damn page

>> No.16217336

>>16216952
Women shouldn’t be allowed to read holy scripture.

>> No.16217359

>>16216952
Qur'an
Bible
Upanishads
The Qur'an is a terrifying work. It's massive in its content and grand in its rhetoric.

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>>16217336
Why are you guys so hatred towards women? They're cute and probaly smell nice. Just don't them be unsubmissive.

>> No.16217421

>>16216952
yes, and honestly, the Catholics are on to something but the Hindus have it figured out

>> No.16217429

>>16216952
no lie, this girl reminds me of my cousin

>> No.16217430

>>16216952
Stop spamming this girl everywhere, her fat white ass reminds me of BBC

>> No.16217433

>>16217359
The Qur'an is pretty short actually; only about 350-ish pages. Sitting beside my 1200-page Bible it looks very modest.

>> No.16217438

>>16216952
That's not a dogear, that's just paper mutilation.

>> No.16217511

>>16216952

The Bible is just plain fucking boring. Theologians are much more fun but most of that is just Greek Philosophy.
Coptic stuff has spooky stories, as does the Angelic lore.

The Quran should remove every Allah exhaltation, then you could get to some interesting stories. Mohammad was pretty based but the Praise Allah shit gets so obnoxious. Of course I read it in English and the Arabic is supposed to be more musical, so I didn't get the full experience.

Buddhist writings are philosophy, as are the Taoists. Confucianism is like reading Jordan Peterson or some stoic, without any rationality to back it up.
The Bhagavad Gita rocks. That's some cool shit. You should read it on acid.
The Talmud is like watching court TV or going to law school. I couldn't get through it but then again it is like reading Wikipedia. Those dudes argue about everything.
Honestly, they are all really a let down. You get more of a kick reading Anton LaVey.

>> No.16217520

>>16217511
reddit post

>> No.16217534

>>16217511
This post is just coherent enough that I'm convinced it is not a shitpost, which is depressing.

>> No.16217648

>>16217511
>The Bible is just plain fucking boring.

This. Its such a fucking slog to get through i have failed every attempt so far to read through it completely.

>> No.16217652

>>16217359
massive for a sand nigger you mean

>> No.16217770

>>16216952
who is this boner stoner

>> No.16217865

>>16216952
There's not enough time to read ALL the holy books of the major religions. Christians heavily overestimate the amount of texts and scriptures that Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists have. Christianity is pretty much the only religion to have one clearly holy text, far below that are a couple important philosophical texts (which just rehash Greek philosophy) and things like the catechism and book of common prayer.

>> No.16218030

>>16217865
Pseudo-Dionysius is an interesting case of a Christian text once revered almost on par with the New Testament, claiming to come from a witness of the crucifiction. It's contents are basically a summary of Platonism and Neoplatonism, framed as Christian theology. This was done in response to the church of Rome deciding to burn the actual texts. Ultimately its forgery was made evident, which had a role in booting up the Protestant Reformation.

As positive a view I and many else may have on the Christians and even Catholics today, it is unwise to forget the times when they ruled in place of an empire, ruled not just in land but in thought. What new order we fear today, with it's dogma and suppression of dissent, is nothing new under the sun.

Don't let this discount your faith. I have yet to come completely around to the faith, or any faith (though at this point I would attempt to create a syncretic "Western Orthodoxy," including a broader canon than the Bible of today) and ultimately resisting one religion only gives power to others. There will always be those who believe; to purge them would be to genocide an entire species.

>> No.16218065

>>16217511
What stories? The majority of them are from the bible anyway.

>> No.16218222

>>16217534
Brutal and true.
>>16217359
This. Then the dao de ching.

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>>16217359
>massive in its content and grand in its rhetoric

>> No.16218410

>>16217359
>The Qur'an is a terrifying work. It's massive in its content and grand in its rhetoric.
Thats a lie.

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>> No.16218421,1 [INTERNAL] 

#1 New Testament. The abyss is going to stare back at me if I post this, but alternate take is Christ was speaking not mainly to the weak but to the powerful. Read correctly, it's galvanizing. He really is all things to all people, but he loves the soldier best. Don't tell women because they get jealous. Very comprehensive in advice, a cut above all other religious texts.

#2 Old Testament because like Christ it's antisemantic and has good military advice, but is 2-3 centuries less advanced in its thinking.

#3 The Torah because it's also esoterically antisemtic but it's only the first five books so it lacks the military advice and the Jeremiad, which is a total triumphant masterpiece of literary clarity.

>> No.16219236

>>16217511
The formulas like "God is all-seeing and all knowing" rhymes, it lets you know when the verse ends. Its suited to recitation

>> No.16219258

>>16218410
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R1JEthK29MU

Terrific.

>> No.16219277

>>16216952
No, but it is my goal to do so eventually. Thus far I've read around 1/6 of the Bible, various Buddhist texts, the Tao te Ching, most of the Confucian Four Books and one of the Five Classics, some central works in a few schools of Hinduism, and the Jain Tattvartha Sutra.

So by no means a great amount, but for only having actually read from religious literature for around a year, a start nonetheless.

>> No.16219295

>>16217412
>probably smell nice
>probably
How do I know you have never smelled a woman?

>> No.16219358

>>16216952
whose the slag

>> No.16219689

>>16216952
Haha can you imagine if she sat on your face and went BRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP haha that would be funny

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>>16217336
read the spine
>The Subtle art of not giving a fuck

>> No.16219876

>>16217359
>The Bibble is Homer fanfic, except they are all busy fucking sheep and cousins, then some dude gets nailed to a fake tree by dudes who could actually read and write
>The Quran is some cavedwelling pedo schizophrenic hearing voices
>Upanishads is a bunch of illiterate plainsshitters high on ganja and shrooms one-upping one another for centuries until some guy looking for AUTHENTICITY writes it all down
Nothing ever changes, nothing ever has, and people are fucking morons

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>>16217865
>There's not enough time to read ALL the holy books of the major religions
Every now and then you'll get some dumbass who doesn't know anything saying something dumb about Buddhism, and when questioned he'll say he read the entire Pali Canon.

Pic related, the Pali Canon. It's a literary canon of texts in the Pali language.

I think the problem comes from this Protestant idea that the Bible is all you need, and you can divine the meaning of it from the aether without any outside information, so clearly this is how all religions work. Confucianism isn't a literary and philosophical tradition stretching from Confucius himself up to the present, it's just the rote study of the works Confucius himself wrote and nothing more. Islam is just the Quran, and nothing more.

>> No.16220570

>>16216952
whose the cumdumpster?

>> No.16220853

>>16216952
Before I start I have to say that I'm an atheist and my ranking is base on how much I enjoyed reading it and how well reasoned the presented philosophies are

>1. Pali Kanon - Buddhism
This was for me personally the most influential Book of those for, especially the 3rd part Abhidhammapitaka. it shows, psychological and philosophical reasoned how to live your life
There are many different Pali Kanons for the different schools of Buddhism and you might want to pick some topics to not read everything because this is a lot
>2. Bible - Christianity, Judaism
While being boring to some degree it has a lot of nice Parables in it, which give direction and let space for interpretation
>3. Veden - Hinduism
There isn't the "one" book for Hinduism but this one comes closest
These are stories or lyrics, some of them I enjoyed reading, but as theological basis for a religion not really well suited
>4. Koran - Islam
I didn't enjoy reading this, most of it are plain instructions on how to live and don't give any explanation at all

>> No.16221648

>>16216952
Use a bookmark you hag

>> No.16221686

>>16220853
>psychological and philosophical reasoned how to live your life
In all of India, there is only really one way to live your life. Which is being aware.
And in all honesty, that is all you can ever hope for. To be aware of where you're at, and that whatever you do, it's your choice.
Jewish religions, including Christianity, and Islam, are leftovers from pre-history. They are silly. Greeks almost had it, before they got filtered through Christianity. But the only way to ever have a soul, to ever be real. Is to practice awareness, and agency, from moment to moment. And you are not special, you are not elect, you are one spark, among millions, and you will never make it.

>> No.16221913

>>16217511
What translation of the Bhagavad Gita did you read?

>> No.16222237

1. Bible
2. Upanishads
3. Qur’an
4. Vedas
5. Tipitaka

That’s my list. Put the Bible as number one due to the sheer amount of places crossed, and the consistency of the story, with it all culminating on the Cross and the Resurrection.

The Upanishads & Vedas were OK. Grueling to get through at some parts, but it was rewarding at the end. The narratives are fun, and you can learn tons of stuff from the ancient myths and sayings.

The Qur’an and the Tipitaka were almost impossible to get through. The Qur’an’s constant repetition and broken narrative basically ruined the book for me, and the Tipitaka seemed so disorganized it left a bad taste in my mouth.

I didn’t complete any of these works in their entirety since they’re so massive compiled together, and only had a relatively short time to read all of them, but the sample that I’ve read so far has given me these opinions. Take them as you will.

>> No.16222264

>>16217511
>The Bible is just plain fucking boring
That's because you people get stuck at Leviticus and Deutoronomy. Read the Gospels and tell me if it's boring

>> No.16222365

put your hips on the ground you bitch

>> No.16222455

>>16219258
It sounds like an Arabic song I hear in the place I get falafel from. Bach mogs the shit out of the Koran. Christ is Risen! Glory be to God!

>> No.16222456 [DELETED] 

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