/lit/ - Literature

>>16202354
Utinni!

It's just gonna be commie shit, sorry. Even something like, there's a crisis of meaning or a mass scale loss of hope, is still ultimately talking about material conditions. Hope is wanting material conditions to improve, and that just doesn't seem to be on the table.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

“Commies” have been the ones trying to avert actual decay. Rightwing sorts are forever pining for a past to return. They want stasis, while leftists want to improve conditions as we go along. I know, it’s all very feminine and unchurchly

Demons

>>16202394
>human "progress"

>>16202354
Don't be such a whiny little bitch, society isn't decaying.

>>16202534
>Plato’s “forms”

>>16202369
>>16202394
>>16202586
fuck off tranny

architectures or scholars or whatever you call them always love just jerking off mentally to what is happening to society and what we can do to fix things but the reality is as an everyday common man he has his family first of all, and doesnt really or atleast truthfully care and only tolstoy understood this when he was obsessed in being a farmer

Im reading Foundation and its based on the Decline of the Roman Empire. Lots of political and economic drama.

>>16202581
>society isn't decaying

>>16202609
not an argument

>>16202609
Society always ALWAYS changes.
The environment is decaying

>>16202622
a non argument in reply to a non argument

>>16202623
>>society isn't decaying

>>16202634
Changing. As it always does. The one constant in the universe. The actual decay you ignore. Why?

>>16202644
>Society always ALWAYS changes.
>The environment is decaying
>Changing. As it always does.
>The actual decay you ignore

what is cognitive dissonance

>>16202354
Karl Marx

>>16202394
this may blow your mind given how completely and utterly self absorbed you are but believe it or not most people dont see a combination of "throwing the world into complete and utter chaos and letting chinks or whomever clean up the mess eventually" and "literally just putting stuff in our rectums" as the end all be all of human progress like you do

>>16202673
Image being this guy

>>16202678
Image indeed

Holy shit this tranny tripfag is on here everyday. Wtf, get a life you fucking cunt

>>16202394
You literally stated outright that you believe in dividing the country into antonymous fucking neighborhoods so someone else can roll up and annex them all easily or at best the whole thing can devolve into pseudo tribal warfare


like..every single day I am more and more amazed at how you can be simultaneously so obsessed with yourself yet in possession of so little self awareness. i guess its just too dark for you to see anything when you shove your head so far up your own ass where the light doesn't shine

Industrial Society and It's Future

>>16202673
Based, I am imagining being you right now and it feels pretty good

>>16202678
I did, I'll do it again now

Even better this time, he has a hot gf

>>16202673
>He casts Confuse
>{100}
>It is effective

>>16202727
>believe in dividing the land into antonymous neighborhoods so that no one can roll up and annex them

Fixed.

Reminder that Butterfly loves to receive some gentle oral sex

>>16202751
aah yes because thats how that works. if we are fractured to a degree that hasn't been seen since the stone age we will actually become more powerful.

What do you mean by decaying?

>>16202354
Where is this picture taken? Its aesthetic.

>>16202767
>fractured
Hehhe hahah ohboy

>>16202760
From the fairer sex, of course.

>>16202784
lmao you waltz into every single thread acting like you are hot shit but you cant even defend your own most basic ideas when you get called out, christ you are so fucking pathetic lmao. Is this all just an act to make up for your complete and utter lack of self confidence IRL?

>>16202792
They aren’t fractured. Nation states are fractured

>>16202798
non answer, explain how a single neighborhood can resist economic/political/military pressure of a hostile nation like russia or china who is interested in either taking it by force, or absorbing it in underhanded ways

>>16202817
>Describe something you’re proposing to disprove what you’re proposing.
No.

Here we have jagged rocks. The each represent a nation. Walk across a field of them. Their sharp edges hurt and injure....

Break those rocks up into sand.
Now walk across.

>>16202817
>Describe something you’re not proposing to disprove what you’re proposing.
No.

Here we have jagged rocks. The each represent a nation. Walk across a field of them. Their sharp edges hurt and injure....

Break those rocks up into sand.
Now walk across.

>>16202851
lmao that makes no sense at all, you've literally just cut up the meal into extremely convenient bite sized pieces that can not only be approached and depopulated with minimal effort, but also on whatever timeline the attacker sees most convenient and effective, you've made it significantly easier not harder retard. there's no sharp edges cutting anything like in your delusional fantasy, just someone going along carefuly and surgically picking up and moving away one rock at a time at their leisure without suffering any cuts at all until finally the field is clear

>>16202884
Its actually incredible, he completely btfos himself in his analogy. He really doesn't understand how and why humans organized into larger and more powerful nations. Unless he thinks every single person on earth will just be happy being subsistence farmers and surely no one would want more

>>16202884
>meal
Why switch the metaphor? It’s not food.
They’re nations as jagged rocks. Just people as sand.

The cuts symbolize the hurt that nations states do bring

>>16202893
>[s]He really doesn't understand how and why humans organized into larger and more powerful nations.
>to hurt each other.
And the that why I suggest not hurting each other anymore.
And you’re sick and rabid with anger over this.

>>16202354

>>16202905
it seems i gave your metaphor too much credit and misunderstood it before you had to separate it into multipl posts. now it seems like you are saying that it is much easier to walk over sand than rocks which is true and pretty self defeating given your position? what even is your point here exactly?

good lord you cant even give a single straight forward answer about the most absolutely basic and fundamental issues regarding your beliefs.ths is just embarrassing

>>16202905
>not hurting each other anymore.

>>people are inherently good

>>16202905
>Like, lets just all be friends, dude!
Hmm maybe you really are a woman. Only a woman would be retarded enough to believe that would ever happen.

>>16202905
>And the that why I suggest not hurting each other anymore.
enough with the half-answers, whats the plan to bring this about then? enforced drugging or some other sort of alteration of human brains to make people docile? complete and utter indoctrination or totalitarian control of their lives from birth by some sort of ruling class?

>>16202961
>>16202967
>>16202977
Pardon, bit we haven’t been discussing the economic component of this equation. People are inherently malleable.

>>16203008
we haven't been discussing anything but the first question which you still haven't answered, how can a single neighborhood maintain its independence under military/economic/political pressure from a nation like russia or china who is interested in either taking it by force or absorbing it in other underhanded ways

>>16203008
>human nature is simply a construct

>>16203008
so how will the sustainable and fair economy of 10 cows and a few acres of farmland and maybe a woodworking shop with a population of 100 man women and children stand up to the $13 trillion dollar economy with 2.18 million active military personnel at their disposal?

aah yes the butterfly flaps her wings and flutters away at the first sign of her beliefs being challenged by the most basic and fundamental inquiries. an interesting spectacle, she couldn't even answer one single basic question, and all with her facade of complete and utter self assurance. not even one question

how do right wingers cope with the fact that the oh so degenerate postmodern commie frankfurt school adorno wanted to preserve and save classic european culture from going to shit

>>16202394
I cannot emphasize how much I want to kick your fucking teeth in every time I see one of your self-aggrandizing smug posts on this shit board

>>16202866
>>16202871
and who exactly breaks all nations apart?
>implying there aren't nations that would heavily resist
>implying they all fall apart at the same time
>implying there will at no point in time be a big nation that will gobble up the smaller sand pieces like a hungry predator

>>16203151
Adorno would be a reactionary today

>>16202354
society isn't collapsing because you can't get laid, incel.

>>16202354
>nooooo i cant get my dick wet society must be decaying!

have

sex

>>16203211
leftists are hilarious like that
>If we just magically make everything perfect then obviously everyone will live happily ever after, its so simple, how has no one thought of this! everyone is stupid except me.mp4
>what do you mean you disagree with me? you are obviously morally evil to oppose me, all i want is for everything to be perfect and everyone to live happily ever after! why do they persecute me so!!!

>>16202354
The Vedas. Typical modern myopia.

>>16202644
>entropy is just change
>please ignore the human suffering

>>16202376

Not true, it is about the ever-increasing lack of strong symbols and meaning. Marxists (blind as they have always been) reduce everything to matter but the reality is that we don‘t perceive the world as a mere place of objects.

The answer is not and never was material.

>>16202354
What decay? Standards of living are the highest they have ever been.

>>16202354
René Guénon's 'The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times'

>>16203716
Technically yes but not anything else

>>16203224
>>16203229
>imagine being this upset because someone asked for non-commie literature
remind me again why anyone takes /leftypol/ seriously?

>>16203998
Such as?

>>16202354
Unironically, The Turner Diaries.

>>16202369
>>16203224
>>16203229
kill yourself tranny

>>16203597
>>entropy isn’t change
>>please ignore the human suffering. Socialist
*tsk tsk*

>>16203211
You’re seriously not hearing me. You have this cold war fear of a red nation overthrowing your NPC grey nation, and I keep telling you it’s not a nation, Leninism didn’t work, I’m not a Marxist, this only work when the people all do it together. The sand!
Stop being stupid.

>>16202354
I know the answer, you know the answer, everybody knows it. Made up or not it's become premonitory

>>16203716
Social, cultural and spiritual decay. People are more atomized and alienated than ever.

>>16204805
reddit underage /pol/ edgelord cringe
>>16202354
any book on arguing for degeneration theory is the correct answer
all this thread proves is that 99% of /lit/ are posers who don't study the backgrounds of political thought
>>16202369
>>16203224
>>16203229
Retards

The Holei Bible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80_rebours

>>16202394
>"commies" are trying to avert decay
>posts a link to a wikipedia article that literally proves communism is dumb shit

>>16202354
Much of Cyberpunk fiction.

>>16202644
How's the decay between your legs?

>>16204843
I disagree on all counts. I don't think people are alienated covid aside. Most people have more income and free time than any other point in history.

>>16204495
shoo stinky tranny

Technological Society and its Future

>>16205073
>income and free time make a healthy and functional society

>>16202644
Why do you ignore your biological sex, faggot?

>>16204859
>degeneration theory
>french garbage
nice one

fanged noumena

>>16202354
books themselves are evidence of impending decay

>>16204495
Why don't you go iron the wrinkles out of your greasy forehead?

>>16204859
>reddit underage /pol/ edgelord cringe
fucko the greatest american industrialist in history-- Henry Ford-- was so impressed by them he spent millions of his own money (when a million was a lot of money) to distribute them/
Other books? "Camp of the Saints" and the famous book mentioned by Gitxgerald about the rise of the colored hordes. What he could never have imagined then was batshit insane Whites giving money to negoes to have 8 kids they can't feed. If it's humane to spay and neuter pets to control the population, why not africans?

>>16205110
>If I never make a specific point I can't be shown to be wrong, then I can keep projecting onto society and not fix my life.

>>16204495
why are you incapable of giving a straight answer, no shit no one is "hearing" you, you're literally just screaming gibberish about rocks and sand

>>16207191
It's just a tranny. Who cares what it thinks or does. Just let it scream into the abyss.