/lit/ - Literature

>>16137291
this faggot will transition to woman eventually

>>16137291
I would bang him.

>>16137291
The World as Will and Representation

>>16137291
We need to go the Spartan way and completely ban homosexuality

>>16137291
Imagine if this retard ever ended up in prison. The rape would never stop.

>>16137326
Same. I'm not even get but I'd probably suck him off.

>>16137291
Gross face but godly ass

>>16137291
he's cute honestly and i felt kinda bad for him after that fiasco, his personality still annoys the shit out of me but i'd rail him
id have him read confessions of a mask or something idc i just want to fuck

HNNNNNGG

>>16137344
Accompanied by a boy slave for you to fuck right?

>>16137291
Nothing, I'd beat the shit out of him and drop a Turner Diaries reference

>>16137326
>>16137351
You are the problem, thought and desire towards something is no excuse nor justification for action, for you are not human if you cannot exercise the power of will and self-control and restraint, you are a mere animal, for you do not have conciousness to not practice self-restraint but exactly so you can practice it, because you have the gift of making decisions does not mean you should make immoral ones the very fact you CAN make decisions is you can make moral ones. There is a very good reason no past culture or civilisation ever accepted homosexuality (semantics aside) until now, they were considered deviant and animal
>>16137381
*ahem* *ahem* Gather around for your lesson today everybody!

Spartans very clearly banned all sexual relationships between men, as per the laws of Lycurgus, which were employed until the end of the Spartan state, as they never changed. Not to mention all Spartans that didn't marry and were celibate were punished with taxes and ostracized and excluded from celebrations and festivals
>The customs instituted by Lycurgus were opposed to all of these. If someone, being himself an honest man, admired a boy's soul and tried to make of him an ideal friend without reproach and to associate with him, he approved, and believed in the excellence of this kind of training. But if it was clear that the attraction lay in the boy's outward beauty, he banned the connexion as an abomination; and thus he caused lovers to abstain from boys no less than parents abstain from sexual intercourse with their children and brothers and sisters with each other.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0210%3Atext%3DConst.%20Lac.%3Achapter%3D2%3Asection%3D13

>>16137397
Nothing wrong with fucking a feminine guy.

>>16137306
1. That's impossible.
2. MtF gender surgery, is still a good thing. It means this homosexual will be castrated and therefore can no longer snap on children or young men. In any case, sodomy is a grave offense against nature and this eliminates him from iniating it.

>>16137397
Based post.

>>16137421
There very much is, reread my post again. Conciousness means the ability to make decisions, and see something as we can do as what we could do, Will means the ability exercise self-autonomous power over making decisions, the very fact we have these two things, something animals do not concern themsevles with at all for they are not self-aware and completely driven by instinct, is so we can make moral decisions and refrain from immoral ones because if this was not the point we could not make decisions and we would be merely animals. This is the reason civilisation and culture exists, to contain the Shadow within us who wants to do all that he sees as what he could as what he ought to, this is the reason no previous civilisation ever accepted homosexuality and we still have a natural repulsion to it that manifests in different ways even if delude ourselves there's nothing wrong with it. Homosexuals have no concept of shame, something that is ingrained in our rationale and concsiousness, and are therefore inversions of our very human nature. Homosexual acts are merely masturbation, this is why coitus after homosexual acts, like masturbation, ends in a depressive period, while natural heterosexual does not. It is no surprise that homosexuals are the biggest legitimate pedophiles there are, for they are the inversion of nature, and its civilisations goal to keep our Shadow in check

>>16137421
Cope.

>>16137502
Post the version with sources included in the pic

>>16137506
Nevermind found it

>>16137481
>Homosexual acts are merely masturbation, this is why coitus after homosexual acts, like masturbation, ends in a depressive period
How do you know that...

>>16137397
>no past culture or civilization ever accepted homosexuality
>What is the Roman Empire and the ancient Greeks.

>>16137573
>What is the Roman Empire and the ancient Greeks.
You're going to make yourself look stupid. See >>16137397

As a bonus
And on Greek "pedastry", specifically Athenian
Pedastry was strictly an educational relationship, there was no sexual elements involved. Different Greek city states just accused each other of them being sexual relationships to accuse each other of being barbarians and allowing such a thing to happen while they didn't, to prove themsevles and their laws superior. One example of this was Boeotians who they accused of allowing this sort of behaviour and regarded them as barbaric and animalistic, however Boetians did not actually allow this, just like their counterparts in the rest of Greece, they were merely used as scapegoats so different states could prove their laws superior
>The view that the Boeotians conducted themselves in an ‘uncivilized’ manner in their homosexual relations is therefore better understood as an attempt by other Greeks to distinguish themselves from the ‘boorish’ Boeotians and to justify their own aversion to this form of erotic love.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v49n03_06

A very similar thing is visible in the Roman Empire, homosexuality is greately exaggerated in modern times, and it was in fact very much not allowed

>>16137609
And nobody is arguing that any sort of homosexuality was allowed outside of so called "pedastric relationships" anyway

>>16137609
>Only posts a link about spartans banning, how Athenians semi practiced homosexuality and a generic argument with 0 proof about romans.
Dude, you argue like a fag.

>>16137511
didn't know it existed. saved.

>>16137573
>ancient Greeks.
scum masses, yes.
god tier philosophers, no.

>>16137460
>snap on children or young men [...] iniating [sic] [sodomy].
Sweetie, that's a bottom.

>>16137481
> Homosexual acts are merely masturbation, this is why coitus after homosexual acts, like masturbation, ends in a depressive period
could never be me

The Hypostasis of the Archons, the Apocryphon of John, the Gospels of John, Judas, and Thomas, and the Thunder (Gospel of Eve).

Would have saved me a lot of searching.

>>16137647
>how Athenians semi practiced homosexuality
They did not practice homosexuality at all

>The teachers of the boys shall open the school-rooms not earlier than sunrise, and they shall close them before sunset. No person who is older than the boys shall be permitted to enter the room while they are there, unless he be a son of the teacher, a brother, or a daughter's husband. If any one enter in violation of this prohibition, he shall be punished with death. The superintendents of the gymnasia shall under no conditions allow any one who has reached the age of manhood to enter the contests of Hermes together with the boys. A gymnasiarch who does permit this and fails to keep such a person out of the gymnasium, shall be liable to the penalties prescribed for the seduction of free-born youth. Every choregus who is appointed by the people shall be more than forty years of age.
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/aeschines.asp

This court case very much shows they had clear laws about the seduction of free born youth, and the so called "pedastric relationship" included a youth and an older man, this proves that pedastric relationships were merely educational and clear penalities were brought upon those who did not keep them as strictly educational relationships. And all academics agree that homosexuality between adult men was allowed nowhere and indeed did not occur. The same is the case in the Roman Empire but I don't have the time right now to scoure my sources on it, but I can give you quick proof that heterosexuality was enforced by the law, those who did not marry or were celibate were punished with taxes and ostracized
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Papia_Poppaea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aes_uxorium

>>16137691
was not allowed*

Any Sacred Text from a valid Religion (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.) would do.

>>16137291
Look at those fucking man-claws, they're even worse than the hands of an old woman.

>>16137397
>There is a very good reason no past culture or civilisation ever accepted homosexuality (semantics aside) until now
This isn't true, however convenient it may be for your beliefs

>>16137772
I posted my proof in the thread, have you?

>>16137511
Does this stuff also apply to erotic literature? I think there has to be a difference between reading some sultry words and seeing a graphic HD hyper-realistic video of black cock coming out of a white silicone ass like a rotten cucumber turd

>>16137784
There is an element of abstract thinking and imagination involved in erotic literature, so by my logic it shouldn't be the same

>>16137397
>*ahem* *ahem* Gather around for your lesson today everybody!
Why do moralist christcucks always type like such insufferable camp counsellor cunts

>>16137397
>>16137481
Wtf is your problem my nigga? Lmao

>>16137821
He doesn't have one. You probably do.

>>16137481
>this is why coitus after homosexual acts, like masturbation, ends in a depressive period, while natural heterosexual does not
Source for this? Or are you just speaking from personal experience you closeted faggot? I bet you had a little "depressed period" after he pulled his oozing dick out of your ass and left.
I can't even tell if this is bait or not but spergs who claim to be vehemently "anti-homoerotic" have the most retarded logic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_homosexuality#Links_to_homophobia

>>16137854
Ok twitter moralist nigger

>He has never fucked another man in the ass
This is a literature board my friends

>>16137808
I am not christian

>>16137537
>>16137668
>>16137857
Ask the people who wrote about it, stop getting hanged up on passing details. I don't remember exactly where I read it, it wasn't only one place, but you're one google search away from finding out. And obviously I know from my own exprience with masturbation, and homosexual acts are nothing more than masturbation where oxytocin is not released, while during male-female intercourse oxytocin is released in large ammounts after sex. There is a reason that male and female are not equal, it is so that when they come in unison equality may be created in the ultimate act of unity and blending into one

>>16137821
Nothing, I'm writing a book that also includes information on this and I'm just posting it here to spread truth

>>16137344
The Spartans loved fucking boys though

>>16138114
Are you blind, or do you simply refuse to read?

>>16137982
Reading what nigga? What the fuck are you reading? Oh you don't remember, is this just a retardedly cheap cop-out to pretend like you have a real argument?
>There is a reason that male and female are not equal, it is so that when they come in unison equality may be created in the ultimate act of unity and blending into one
Ok Evola go write some gay esoteric self-help book about magic pussy

>>16137982
Actually homosexual sex gives you MORE oxytocin than heterosexual sex, which makes your brain bigger (and wiser). If you don't agree with me just ask the people who wrote about it and stop getting hung up my shitty argument and just agree with me pwease

>>16138158
>>16138177
This is the sort of arguments I have to put up with here, I already wrote paragraphs explaining my position and I'm the only actually posting sources to prove my position

>>16137982
What do you want me to google exactly? "homosexual masturbation"? Okay, I'm looking at a bunch of dicks and Xvideos now, thanks for that faggot. Should I google "homosexual oxytocin"?
Okay, here's some chink study I found, is this what you're referring to?
https://supchina.com/2017/11/29/aim-study-oxytocins-impact-gay-men/
Doesn't really seem to prove any of the batshit shit you've been sperging about.
Here's another one
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453013003326
This one says the exact opposite of what you said?

>>16138177
Does oxytocin actually do that?

>>16137291
Is this like a meme or something

>>16138218
>In heterosexual subjects, the effect of oxytocin administration was restricted to a decrease in ratings of trustworthiness for angry female faces (p < 0.02). In contrast, in homosexual men oxytocin administration robustly increased ratings of attractiveness and approachability for male faces regardless of the facial expression (all p ≤ 0.05)
This proves homosexuals cannot tell apart facial expressions and are worse at facial recognition

Anyway I am not ruining my sleep schedule, if this thread is still up tomorrow I'll post my sources on the Roman Empire and everything else

>>16137291
who

>>16138197
Boo hoo poor you. No one wants to read your blocks of text about pseudoscience you shitted out with no sources besides "google it lol". These arguments are just as retarded as yours

Ah yes, appeal to tradition. The good old classic.

>>16138246
Homos BTFO'D

>>16138218
Here's another fun thing I just found

>these differences suggest that homosexual subjects were, on average, exposed to atypical endocrine conditions during development.
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/152/8/2937/2457178

What this means is that they were exposed to plastic more in childhood, as plastic, especially phthalates and BPA and BPS, act as endocrine disruptors and create disorder in the endocrine system, in males by mimicking estrogen and disturbing testosterone production and transport essentially meaning you have much lower testosterone levels

There is tons of literature on plastics as endocrine disruptors available everywhere, but here is one
>Phthalates found in plastics could block hormone involved in sexual, cognitive function
https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2014/reduced-testosterone-tied-to-endocrine-disrupting-chemical-exposure
>>16138273
I clearly posted about historical records above

>>16138304
Homosexuality existed before plastic

>>16137291
this new breed of gay is mad heinous

>>16137344
Spartans dabbled in homosexuality Anon

>>16137858
Not the OP. I'm not a moralist. I'm 100% amoral. It's just so happens I hate homosexuals.

>>16138449
>Im 100% amoral
>I hate homosexuals

Holy fucking shit you're retarded

>>16138438
Nigger literally scroll through the thread

>>16137379
Why would you post that anon

>>16138365
Not him, but did it? Do you realise when the term was even coined and that no equivalent in any language existed to it? Name one homosexual, meaning specifically attracted only to the same sex before lets say 200 years ago, and before you dismiss it as completely ridiculous take it seriously first

>>16138470
>NOOOOOOOOO you can't hate people if you have no moral compass that doesn't make any sense

>>16137291
when i was 16 i tried to read
>being and time
>of grammatology
>infinite jest
and bailed on all of them
did read underworld by don delillo and the myth of sisyphus tho

at 17 i got into zizek, reading the sublime object of ideology and gravity's rainbow even though i was high all the time

i like to go back and read stuff i was too stupid to understand as a kid. maybe i should read of grammatology.

being a homosexual is based actually and there is no reason why a homosexual can't make his nation proud by working hard for their people and community.

>>16138517
Are you okay, what are you talking to

>>16138511
It literally doesnt idiot

>>16138365
What from my post made you say that?

>>16138517
I laugh at America

>>16138517
Bisexuals are the true redpill

>>16138541
>NOOOOO YOU CANT HATE THATS HECKIN IMMORAL.
You're the moralist, pleb.

>>16138503
Okay, just hear me out, before you dismiss this as completely ridiculous try taking it seriously first 'mkay? Braaaaaaaaaaap *sharts*

>>16138584
Do you seriously have Down's syndrome?

>>16138584
this

>>16138517
Like most writers are Faggots anyway

>>16138541
>>16138470
Absolutely spooked. You're the retard.

I am bi but I probably will never have sex with a male because extremely femme ones are rare as hell.

>>16138678
Ofc I was dealing with a Stirner faggot. No wonder you're so retarded lmao

>>16138989
How do I have sex with a dude without no one knowing?

>>16139050
At the very least one person is going to be aware of the sexual encounter, whether it be you or your partner
You should probably just come to terms with being a fag

>>16139063
I'm sexually attracted to both but could never date another guy. Girls only

>>16137379
Only a gay man would not smash that ass
Change my mind

>>16137326
I would also fuck it. Does it have a benis though? Is it feminine?

>>16137291
>Picture of some retarded queer from youtube
>83 replies
>none related to literature
The absolute state of /lit/

>>16139076
based

>>16137481
>>16137397
>if you cannot exercise the power of will and self-control and restraint, you are a mere animal
Being a homosexual or bisexual doesn't mean that you aren't exercising self-control or restraint any more than being heterosexual does mean that you are exercising self-control or restraint. Unless you think that all heterosexuals are really bisexuals or homosexuals who have chosen to deny their same sex desires.
And there is no reason to suppose that homosexuality is a moral issue. Just pulling historical precedent out of your pocket only proves that you're a cultural conservative. However, you have not actually demonstrated that cultural conservationism is a correct approach to ethics or that homosexual repression is a cultural norm that ought to be conserved. Nothing you've written about homosexual psychology is convincing. Ironically, it seems to have only resulted in an inadvertent confession on your part.

>>16137291
>What canonical works would you make pic relateds 16-18 year old self read if you could and why?
State and Revolution and What is to be done?. Then the KAPD critique of Leninism.

Then Socialism Utopian and Scientific, Condition, Family.

Probably a localised labour history course in conjunction with the IWW preamble and constitution.

lol at the pseuds trying to intellectualize sodomy.

you're a faggot at conception, and we don't know why the phenomenon occurs.

>>16137460
>That's impossible
we'll break you eventually

>>16137481
First of all, there should be a distinction between a good will and good itself. If we only consider the good will we fall under a tautology, as in that case the good will’s objective would be to have the good will. I say that the good will is the projection of good itself the subject has unto the object, and in order to have good manifested, rationality and self control are used as means. An instinct is not intrinsically evil, as it can lead to the same action as a rational decision, the problem with it is that there’s a bigger risk to do evil than it does with reason. Therefore, when making a moral decision, an instinct shouldn’t be determined as evil because it is an instinct, but by how it fits under an universal law or the consequences that it can lead to. By claiming that a homosexual act is evil because it is an instinct, we also ignore the possibility that the one person that committed the act didn’t use reason before following the instinct, and even more so, any heterosexual act is also inmoral by definition, as they are also caused by one’s instinct. If you want to prove that homosexuality is bad, prove the implications or consequences that it can lead to.

MODS DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AND REMOVE THE WEABS ***AND*** FAGGOTS APPARENTLY NOW.

SAGE!!!!!!!!!!

Homer, Herodotus, Caesar, etc

>>16137397
>>16137481
I 100% agree with the point you are trying to make here except for the part where you say "Homosexual acts are merely masturbation,"
How does that work for me? I'm a homosexual and I don't masturbate and I don't have sex or sexual thoughts for that matter as much as the cumbrains do on this board. I know I'm very much a minority when it comes to that, but what it seems you are actually explaining is prison gays, cumbrains, straight 'bisexual' males or men with high sex drives. I don't think what you've said can boil down to 'homosexual bad' as straight people are almost as bad, it's just easier for them to hide.