/lit/ - Literature

Pynched

There was a talking dog in Gravity's Rainbow too, way to expose yourself pleb

>>16119065
Is Mason & Dixon not a stand alone work? This is even dumber than I thought.

>>16118929
>old man telling funny stories to the kids
What do you expect

>>16119124
You have exposed yourself as a lit poster who hasn't read Gravity's Rainbow. Get off this board until you go back and finish it

Tolstoy did it first

>>16119170
Okay, pseud, next you'll probably tell me to read Infinite Jest by the hack DFW.

>>16119128
This. I think you lost sight of the frame narrative.

>a talking cat
What the fuck was Bulgakov thinking?

>>16119312
No I will tell you to read The Pale King by David Foster Wallace.

>>16118929
Isnt that like 30 pages in? Not gonna make it bro. Try again in ten years.

>>16118929
>implying anthropomorphic dogs arent universal kino
>implying
catfag detected

Another pleb filtered by the Learned English Dog

>>16119065
Eh more of a thinking dog than a talking dog. Talking dog typically implies that they are capable of speaking in a way humans can understand

>>16120063
Ch. 5 of TPK is the sweetest thing I have ever read in my life.

>getting PYNCHED
many such cases

>>16118929
you got pynched son

>>16119128
>>16120060
So it didn't even actually talk? That's more retarded lmao

As if the frame narrative itself isn't replete with absurdities. He's pynching your leg on multiple levels.

>>16119065
Wasn't the dog's talking in GR an ether induced hallucination? The dog has no communication until the unstopped ether bottle starts making Mexico goofy.

I seem to recall a talking dog in Against The Day? Probably time to reread that one, barely remember a thing about it other than I enjoyed it.

>never talked to a dog before

Leave your room and go have some experiences

>>16120732
One of my favorite parts of The Pale King is how he condensed huge parts of IJ into single characters and managed to keep them believable, Stecyk is probably the best example of this.

>>16118929
>A TALKING DOG?!

> is alarmed by a non-anthropomorphic character adopting anthropomorphic attributes
> this is literally one of the oldest tropes of literature
there are many ways to get filtered by Pynchon, but this is clearly one of the lamest ways for it to happen.

>>16118929
i think the idea was that the world was a lot more interesting for the casual viewer before the liberals & scientists took over

>>16119124
pig bodine

I keep seeing this book memed on /lit/, is it actually worth checking out? It's over 700 pages long and I have a backlog of Greek literature to get through.

>>16122415
oh, you're so erudite. I don't know, big guy, *do* you have enough time for a book of immaculate English prose?

>>16122415
It fucking rules but if you're still in Greek era and havent gone through Enlightenment era you might as well hold off, as it draws most richly from the latter.

>>16118929
There was a reading dog in Against the Day too

>>16122479
You say the same thing about Infinite Jest, which is 1200 pointless pages.

>>16121981
Yes it was but that's beside the point

yeah all the hallucinatory stuff in pynch books actually happens. none of it is an "aside." it really exists in the texture of the fictive world

>>16118929
>talking dog
sounds pretty based to me

A talking dog I can understand. What the fuck was with the robot duck?

>>16124745
What part didnt make sense?

>>16122091
This.
Imagine getting filtered by Aesop's Fables.
Yikes lol.

>>16124745
didn't read lol but its probably a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck

>>16124890
oh shit it's literally in the article, well, there you have it

Thought that L.E.D was really interesting right up until the robot duck was introduced. Who thinks that stuff up?

>>16125108
Post-modernist hacks.

Is there a .pdf of this available somewhere? Couldn't find one on libgen

>book seems interesting and like something I would enjoy
>can't justify a 700 page investment in a work of fiction
Please help me.

>>16126107
Are you implying you'd invest 700 pages into nonfiction? That's extremely vulgar by comparison. Fiction is the highest form of letters.

>>16118929
clearly he was inspired by the greatest talking dog of them all

>>16126107
>700 pages

you'll be done in like 10 days

>>16126119
>Fiction is the highest form of letters.
Not really, most fiction is absolute garbage.

>>16121981
there's a reading dog but I don't remember him talking

>>16118929
f

Based Learned English Dog

>>16126361
You seem to think your assertion contradicts mine. It doesnt.

>>16119124
>>16119124
Pynchon's work has a bunch of characters and often references his other work.

Why's it dumb? I liked it quite a bit, imagine walking around the English countryside in a pig suit lmao so random. WHAAAAT GIANT RAINBOW ERECTION WHAAAAAAAT.

It goes off the rails a bit but I like that. I fucking love the "cartoony" feel of his books. He goes off the rails all the fucking time with rants and descriptions, fucking songs and tons of different storylines and ridiculous scenes. It's not for everyone but it's memed on for a reason.

>>16129743
Mason and Dixon is great as well, it's like if Tommy boy wrote Moby Dick. He even uses old timey p

>>16122343
that's Officer-in-Charge Bodine to you...

>>16121981
Pretty sure the dog in ATD talks at the end? Or the beginning? Or understand humans...no wait he can read!

>>16122343
Apparently Pynchon kept a pig figurine in his pocket, and an ex-girlfriend of his painted him as a pig... And he had an ESP sort of thing wherein he only saw the real pig bodine as he was discharged...pynchon might be a talking pig!

>>16122055
This, dogs are great communicators if you can't understand them that's a you problem

>>16130018

yeah but can they FUCKING READ???

>>16119238
what book?

>>16119238
"Mason & Dixon: The Never Before Seen Prequel ft. Sparky the Talking Dog" by Leo "I Did It First" Tolstoy.

>>16126209
to me, this seems racist

Pynchon is literally /r/eddit

>>16130284
He is in Africa teaching math, a noble cause
>black people don't look like that!
White people don't look like Tintin and dogs don't talk, grow up and learn context.

>>16130284
and that's the decolonised version

>>16130385
>everything i don't like is reddit

for me, it's the philosophizing clocks

>>16130456
One of the best things ever written.

>>16130167
Anna Karenina . It's in a comfy Levin chapter

>>16129750
>it's like if Tommy boy wrote Moby Dick
This makes it sound worth reading.

>>16130420
Thanks for answering a joke with a sincere explanation, man. I learned a lot today.

>>16131040
You are not very good with the humor.

>>16118929
Is Pynchon magical realism or something else entirely?

>>16131311
pynchon is not magical realism, magical realism is pynchon

>>16131323
What did he mean by this?

test

They imagined it

>>16132139
>IT WASN'T REAL
No shit, it happened in a work of fiction. Any other galaxy brain takes you want to make? It's still stupid.

>>16118945
lol

>>16124890
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck
fuck i read the book and the wiki in tandem and somehow missed this. so awesome hahaha

>>16132237
>In Thomas Pynchon's historical novel Mason & Dixon, Vaucanson's duck attains consciousness and pursues an exiled Parisian chef across the United States.
Pynchon missed his calling as a Looney Tunes scriptwriter.

>>16130985
It's so fucking good, man. Gravity's Rainbow and Mason & Dixon and Against the Day are all you need to read for the rest of time. Stupid jokes and folk myth and obscure history and talking dogs for days and days. The good stuff.

>>16132656
Oh, as a stoner without a day job, I'd say Pynchon's seen his fair share of cartoons.

>>16132656
There's a character named something like Al'mar Faud in ATD, who wears hunting clothes and talks phonetically like Elmer Fudd.

>>16132656
Nah, he just did his looney tunes scripts under another name. Good amount of vintage Looney Tunes is Pynchon.

>>16132983
Neat

>>16130284
It is racist

>>16134052
What about it is racist?

>>16134196
well according to my copy "the young herge reflects the colonial attitudes of the time. he depicted the african people according to the bourgeois, paternalistic stereotypes of the period"

>>16126361
this