/lit/ - Literature

>>16044598
Do I have to keep a folder of this idiot's embarrassing tweets or will you asshats just stop shilling him?

>>16044618
He says all sorts of retarded shit but dammit I like him.

>>16044618
He has a lot of idiotic opinions because he pushes his ideas too far and into realms they don't belong. His insights on randomness and skewedness are still very useful if you apply them moderately.

>>16044669
>randomness
>skewed
None of these are real things. Either something is something or it's a gradiation of it and randomness doesn't exist. Name one uncaused thing.

>>16044669
>His insights on randomness and skewedness are still very useful if you apply them moderately.
Ok, I can check out his reasonable side if it's posted.

>>16044598
I don't get his hostility to being Arab. Despite the face that it has (so far) been a total failure, Pan-Arabism is the only hope for that part of the world ever being relevant again

>>16044680
>Either something is something or it's a gradiation of it and randomness doesn't exist. Name one uncaused thing.
>causation fallacy

>>16044598

Damn, that'd explain a lot about me.

Even ashkenazi jews in russia are like 30% canaanite, while palestinians are 50%

>>16044598
>>16044618
>>16044645
>>16044669

>>16044696
That doesn't mean what you think it means and if the word fallacy leaves your lips and you were born after the 18th century then you are a pseud.

>>16044733
Not everything has a cause brainlet.

>>16044733
Kill yourself

>>16044747
Name uhhhwanuhh thing that is uncaused. I will be your temporary executor of truth.

>>16044680
Nice semantics. Randomness just refers to probability, not purely arbitrary chance. In statistics, we use errors and residuals to describe not pure randomness, but causes that are outside of the grasp of a statistical model.

>>16044687
Then read the books. They're full of little tales about survivorship bias, confirmation bias, loss aversion and other empirically proven shortcomings of human psychology that can help you think a little more clearly.

None of you even watched the video.

>>16044747
>>16044759
>fallacy faggots owned and trolled

>>16044767
Yes, I deny probabilities are anything either. What truth they skim is by nature of the limitations of statistics, purely correlational. This should be a hint to develop a new field but instead y'all sit in it and gatekeeping. Very uninteresting field, statistics.

>>16044770
>propertarianism
Why would anyone care what those retards have to say?

>>16044788
t. brainlet

>>16044770
>propertarian
>objectivist
>libertarian
I can't take it anymore, will u faggots go blow each other and fuck off

>>16044801
Maybe I am but I'm still unrefuted

>>16044788
>y'all

>>16044815
Yep from tx uwu https://vocaroo.com/3AkwsXo6IP1

>>16044767
>They're full of little tales about survivorship bias, confirmation bias, loss aversion and other empirically proven shortcomings of human psychology
I already know about them, and so does every diligent student of basic statistics. Why should I read his books again?

>>16044831
>"yes, I'll check out his insights if they're reasonable"
>point out reasonable insights
>"no, I won't check out his reasonable insights, I already know them"
Why even post?

>>16044830
why can't the british ever do a convincing southern drawl

>>16044847
Yes, to take your logic further, why did Taleb write those god damned books so u zoomer faggots could shill him and statistics and libertarian bs.

>>16044849
It's west texan, I'm from northeast texas. Different accent

>>16044847
Dude, those aren't his insights. Does he have any worthwhile insights on his own, other than Stat101 and Social Psych 102?

>>16044881
Related articles
Black swan theoryLindy effectLudic fallacyKurtosis riskTaleb distributionFat-tailed distributionAntifragility

How can anybody live with not being northern european?

>>16044902
now that's more like it

>>16044906
By being a based med

>>16044598
295 is not bad for an old man in toe shoes

>>16044961
Is that mark fucking rippetoe

>>16044998
Wat goes through a toe shoe owner's head wen they first lay eyes on them.

>>16044998
Idk i started lifting at 14 years old and my first day in the gym I was a 140lb lanklet and did 325lbs for reps

>>16045015
No u didn't stfu. The first time someone goes lifting they're not doing a deadlift at 325 for reps especially at 14 years old. Most grown adults never reach that weight

>>16045030
>147.418 kg
that other anon was tripping, but it's not THAT impressive on the easiest lift

>>16045015
False
>>16045030
True

>>16045171
Most ppl don't ever lift and it takes about 9 months if you eat well and train well but most ppl who lift weights lift like trash in bodybuilder sense or just lazy.

>>16044902
>Black swan theory
ok, I'm back after a while and I'll check out the other ones, but how is this one different than hindsight bias?

>>16045030
Lmao you definitely didnt play outside as a kid

>>16045180
More impressive imo was my 315 squat because i could do that for 3 reps my first time in the gym ass to grass

Did cross country and rode my bike every day for years before I ever went into a gym

>>16045183
I'd say it's more like 4 months for a regular dude who didn't hit middle age yet. Half of that is what you could probably expect from the start and then doubling this on newbie gains should work out smoothly if you know what you're doing.

Imagine unironically being a objectivist AFTER the 2008 banking crisis

>>16045007
Yes

>>16045292
Amazing

>>16045243
Yeah if you know what you're doing. When I trained ppl I raised their deadlift a plate every month. Just used 3x5 last at max do 3 exercises 4 days a week. Experimented w myself and I did same 3 exercises every day for a couple weeks and had to cycle around them. Went up about 15 lbs after each workout (like 4 reps to max on whatever weight and go from plate and 10 to plate and 25 to 2 plates)

>>16045223
Stfu retard. Many ppl who bike and run professionally can't squat 315. Your spotter lied to you.

>>16045223
Did you bench 3 plates as well?

>>16045330
Lmfao cyclists BTFO powerlifters in squat competitions easily

https://youtu.be/4VO7VMmSHCo

>>16045338
No like 1.25 bodyweight lol fucking long arms

>>16045443
Yet short legs? A squat even w deadlift is a treat.
Also that video is a turbo cope. Cyclists lift weights and even take steroids. You're talking out your ass, even Usain Bolt and sprinters have to lift weights for power. Your 14 yo ass fantasy of riding ur bike and becoming super strong is autistic at whatever age you are now. Even looking up crap like this to fuel your fantasy

>>16045467
Sucks to be a weakling I guess. My deadlift is equal to my squat because my core is my lanklet weakzone. My torso is small, long legs and long arms.

It's okay at 25 I'm not significantly stronger than I was at 14. Only 25lbs heavier too. 3 inches taller. 5'9 to 6ft.

>>16045443
An olympic cyclist who squats 275 kg as his max you think is getting his squat and arm power from riding through the neighborhood all day and half racing cars down the street

>>16045443
>be 14 year old lanklet
>weigh 140 lbs
>first day of gym
>can barely bench more than the bar without my arms trembling and just about manage 1pl8 for bench/squat with poor form
>lie about lifting deadlift 325 lbs, squat 315 lbs, bench 175 lbs for reps
>people online will surely believe my tale

>>16045487
You're retarded, squats are ass for every tall strongman. It's their worst events unless they're gifted in their legs but even so they're usually ass at it

>>16044598
>propertarians
arent they the guys that pissed themselves?

>>16045487
>imagine thinking your core is what's holding back your deadlift from being higher and not your squat
You are absolutely retarded bro

>>16045491
You said a pro cyclist couldnt squat 315 for 1 rep

So I showed you a cyclist squating 210lbs for 5 minutes straight

You were a wimpy kid we get it

>>16045487
>lanklet
>6ft
>barely the size of an adult male

>>16045523
Who tf said that, I said your dumbass riding a bike around the neighborhood at 14 isn't going to squat 325 lbs. Let me check if that's a record in fact

>>16045500
My hips are abnormally large, and also you're just a pussy.
>>16045494
Pussy
>>16045516
Nah its definitely the case, why do demoralized weaklings with poor knowledge and imagination spew piss on people that arent as pathetic?

>>16045527
In relation to my weight yeah
>>16045537
315, my deadlift was just a hair better. It"s. Not even close to a record.

>>16045523
Tell this fuck you beat his record and his dumbass should get a walmart bike https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/jake-schellenschlager-14-deadlifts-300-pounds/
Tell him you did it without lifting for 3 years

At 16 my mile run personal best on a treadmill was 4:32.

I was much faster than I was strong.

Then I dude weeded my cardio away

had to unfollow this dude for being boring
broken record since covid

>>16045573
That dude looks so similar to 14 year old me lol, and yeah I could kick his ass at that age too

>>16045550
I think you're a pussy for having to stroke your ego online by lying about lifting weights. Nothing you've said makes it sound like you've ever lifted and I'm glad your dumbass is breaking down. Imagine being over the age of 14 and still lying about something as retarded as that. You are a weak bitch and not just cause your bitch ass needs to lie online to feel important

>>16045598
It was just a passing comment, you fags took the issue. Unfortunately I don't back down on things. You did this to yourselves see you at bump limit.

>>16045594
Yeah well, your dumbass didn't get into strongman and do a clean and jerk for 500 kilos so I think you're the dumbass

>>16045607
I wouldnt ever do that exercise my shoulders are shit tier it would be snap city

>>16045598
I swear to god, people who lie about lifting stats on 4chan are incel demoralizers trying to make new lifters believe their seemingly abysmal starting stats mean they shouldn't even bother trying to fight the uphill battle against genetics

>>16045602
>it was a passing comment

Wat a dumb bitch. You are a weak ass bitch whose pride is defined by being a faggot keyboard warrior. It's in stages here's your first ass handing to you. You can learn how to not be a dumbass later. You can type away.

>>16045617
Definitely not discouraging anybody from physical fitness, I encourage it be a part of everyone's life

>>16045617
I don't think anyone who has ever lifted feels they can get away with saying something like that. It's just some stupid kid w a good many life lessons to learn on his plate

>>16045623
It's okay that you're upset, it is a harsh reality that above average people can state mere facts about themselves and attract severe butthurt from people that quit every day of their lives.

>>16045617
Also if that was true he wouldn't have made so many physiological errors in the discussion. It's just a stupid kid who's never lifted as a hobby

>>16044961
>get in the boomermobile, we're going deadliftin'

>>16045633
Grow a pair

>>16045645
LOL you are a major idiot

Would you guys like me to post my dick? It's massive. Would you be able to cope with that?

He's Greek

guy pls stop
you're going to get the thread pruned before we ever get to the IQ derail

>>16044598
this video is so fucking embarrassing lmao

>>16045667
Speaking of IQ my IQ is very high and it runs in the family! 150 at least!

>>16045649
>>16045655
You would be castrated you little bitch faggot if ur pussy ass had to face shit and seeing ur scared little smirk get ripped the fuck off ur face and shoved in a dress would be forever on the internet and u would be such a shallow faggot nobody would care. And it'd happen in a heartbeat u weak bitch.

>>16045672
Cope. You got called out bitch and ure too damned old for it

>>16045673
Lmfao what is this

>>16045681
I'm just a superior person making the choice to temporarily pause humility.

>>16045672
I'll do you a favor you punk bitch and tell you what other dumbasses do like you https://youtu.be/Qr9_R2jCayQ

>>16045690
Too bad ur dumbass got called out. If you're any smarter wen ure humble u better switch tf up stupid

>>16045694
I would never claim to be something I'm not. For example, I'm wealthy enough I don't have to work. If I wasn't this I wouldn't say it.

:)

>>16045699
The absolute state of /lit/

>>16045704
I got u bitch. U lied I called u out and I showed ur how ur bitch behavior has consequences. I'm better than ur pussyass dad

>>16045723
Lmao choosing to believe that others aren't as mediocre as you is not calling someone out

I feel sorry for you

>>16045715
Zoomer faggot can't use words now he's reverted to phrases out of fear. You can't face real u bitch. I'll see u on yt in a video in ur future

>>16045729
Amazing

>>16045726
Ure a weak ass bitch that got called out. You're a safe ass bitch that's why you talk so much, you don't know consequences you faggot ass privileged suburban ass white bitch. I'd love to see u in some trouble you'd shit ur pants

>>16045740
In my parts of life averages are beneficial to use over individual cases, unfortunately this can lead to mediocre blindness where you see everything that isn't average as unrealistic.

I call this being a little bitch. You are a little bitch.

>>16045755
Many*

Uh oh made a typo hope you can still make sense of my statement

>>16045655
>Would you guys like me to post my dick? It's massive. Would you be able to cope with that?
OK, post it

>>16045770

>>16045755
The highest person who lifted was 300lbs deadlift in 2014. You're a fucking dumbass and you can lie to yourself in order to feel like you're progressing but that shot doesn't work once you're about 25.
I would throw you through so much shit. You've done nothing in your life and that you haven't a bat shoved through your skull tells me ur a little bitch. How old are you wat have u done?

>>16045806
If you could read you would know how old I am, also you speak like an urban gentleman of color.

>>16045812
If there's any reason racism exists it's because suburban faggots like you haven't got your ass beat a few times.

Imagine having baby legs

I didn't know it was so common hahahahahaha

>>16045824
You have no comprehension of reality. It doesn't have to be that way though, probably.

>>16045832
Yes I beat you don't want it to. Pussy ass bitch. Admitted

>>16045832
post your massive dick

>>16045840
Zoomer nazi faggots swarm in to protect there soft white asses

>>16045840
See
>>16045787
It appears mods want the conversation to continue dick-free
>>16045838
You are like a child.

>>16045832
I like how I made you type correctly

>>16045849
I made u a lying child on the internet you keyboard faggot.

>>16045855
To be honest you could find all of my posts on 4chan using machine learning because I always type like this. Sorry but you are insignificant.

>>16045863
Except you didn't you dumb bitch. It's in this fucking thread how dumb are you.

>>16045862
This is precisely why it is so important that people be humble. Imagine causing this kind of butthurt every day. I would be very polite to you in person, because you are less than me and I wish to not disrupt your state of mind.

OK, this thread is not what I thought it was. Does anyone have the screencap of the quote from the historian that described a certain people of the Mediterranean area (perhaps Trojans or Phoenecians) as being cryptos much like the Jews? It may have been Herodotus. I had no money at the time that I first read it so I forgot about it and now I want to buy the book.

>>16045863
I haven't even brought what I am what I do. You just keep coping you suburban zoomer faggot

>>16045867
Apparently you're confused. There are few people as consistent as me.

>>16044733
>fallacy leaves your lips and you were born after the 18th century then you are a pseud.
Is it insecurity that causes people to get triggered by legitimate words like this?

>>16045869
I bet u would bitch and I made u realize that

>>16045879
Lol

>>16045889
It really isn't worth the effort most of the time, you're right. Sometimes I can have a laugh at the expense of others though.

>>16045880
You don't ever learn but you're gonna learn one day

>>16044669
Yeah nobody here knows how to
"apply" real stat/prob theory in any capacity and only listen to Taleb because he's a meme and they (that means you) are really dumb and are really impressionable to any e-celeb.

If you were really interested in probability/statistics you would fucking read a textbook on it (like Ross or something) or learn a stat computing language like R. /lit/fags are so fucking stupid I fucking hate this gay board that thinks they're super smart but then doesn't know how to learn anything besides reading Socrates' gay, retarded shit.

>>16045899
Keyboard warrior, gj zoomer nazi

>>16045900
You poor thing.

>>16045911
*taps keyboard even harder*

/lit/ used to be better

>>16045912
You will learn or you'll be nothing for the rest of your life. It's poor u bitch

>>16045923
Oh okay thanks for enlightening me lol

>>16045920
>>16045912
And I'm right. Take the l

>>16045934
Would that make you happier to go back to believing being average is okay

>>16045941
You aren't even that

>>16045948
Correct

>>16044881
>Does he have any worthwhile insights on his own, other than Stat101 and Social Psych 102?
No.

That said, statistics is a black art, and knowing it makes you a bona-fide wizard. As a popularizer of statistics Taleb is pretty good, I think.

>>16046098
Taleb has insane and shitty criteria for statistical validity because he is butthurt by his in-group having lower IQ. Literally he argues that non-linearly predictive quantities cannot be considered "measurements' (lolwut).

Imagine of Carl Sagan was a "popularizer of science" but believed that planets weren't proven to be there until we touched them. That's how "good" Taleb is as a "popularizer of statistics". And idiots (that's YOU!) fall for it.

>>16046238
Taleb is right. Using Gaussian statistics for fat-tailed processes is not valid.

>>16044645
Didn't he piss himself at his first rally?

>>16044689
He is unconditionally against all pan-movements, instead he is a proponent of fractal multiscale localism

>>16046450
K but there are tons of known EZ workarounds to the things he's talking about and you can quantify how far estimates deviate from Gaussian norms in fat-tailed proccesses. He just pretends this wouldn't be applicable to IQ because 1) he's butthurt that his ingroup has low IQ and 2) he couldn't come out as pro-IQ anyways because he would jeopardize his prestige as an intellectual and be institutionally villified if he held hereditarian positions on IQ

He pretends that the fact that there are mathematical assumptions about distributions is some huge revelation and that it makes a field of inquiry (which, wow what a shocker, he doesn't like on ideological grounds) intractible when anybody with moderate stat/prob knowledge knows that the corrections for these things are EZPZ.

Basically he's just a liar about the extent to which the need for corrections on some processes that result in non-Gaussian distributions are able to tank a field when in reality the corrections are routine and easy. He knows this though and he's just a zealot against IQ, and he posted his article hoping that gullible idiots (that's you!) would just chug his cum and it worked desu.

>>16047813
IMBECILE

>>16047913
Oh and he also says a lot of weird bully things about high IQ ppl that are just empirically untrue. He conjectures that high IQ ppl are just gigaconformists when the exact opposite is true for instance high IQ people are less likely to be duped by the Asche conformity test, taking bigger economic risks, etc. He just has a weird vendetta against IQ and it makes his bizarre proclamations about measurement validity clear when you just realize he is super butthurt about IQ.

>>16047946
>mostly measures extreme unintelligence (learning difficulties), as well as, to a lesser extent (with a lot of noise), a form of intelligence, stripped of 2nd order effects
what exactly is contentious about his conclusion?

>>16048008
What does that particular sentence have to do with anything in the post. Also the probability that you've done the legwork to investigate that sentence is zero.

>>16048008
Also is he talking about IQ measuring "extreme unintelligence"? What's the proof of that? Dumb and wrong by literally all other research. You're just gullible and think it's a good position to take for probably social reasons. It allows you to sound like you have a hot take while maintaining a socially acceptable normie status quo against IQ, backed by a person considered "august" by status quo zealot idiots.