/lit/ - Literature

i think you may be a homosexual, op

>>16023263
If you really care about him, come out of the closet and live fearlessly and confidently. That is what he really wanted

>>16023270
>>16023271
Is it wrong to be homosexual?

>>16023263
maybe you should study japanese every single day to read something actually written by him

>>16023344
As someone with a serviceable amount of Japanese ability, I can tell you first hand that learning moon runes for literature alone as an English speaker is simply not worth the immense effort.

>>16023395
As someone with a more than serviceable knowledge of Japanese, I can tell you first-hand that learning it for literature and everything associated as an English speaker is very much worth the immense effort. But only if you're genuinely committed.

>>16023336

>>16023336
No, but it is very difficult to accept yourself if you are brought up in a homophobic environment like Mishima was

>>16023502
t. fag

>>16023336
no, unless you sodomize

>>16023270
Yes.

>>16023502
>Mishima
>Homophobic environment
If I recall correctly, his environment wasn't homophobic because there wasn't even an idea of homosexuality. He had no idea what he was or what his problem was. In a way, his problem was the absence of homophobia.

yukio proves again and again that one can take nietzsche seriously - that the life of the greeks can be emulated, even today

op here, i unironically cried at the end of spring snow. i want to kiss kioyaki on the lips

>>16023548
What if you only give it to little twink boys and never take it, like a faggot would?

>>16023571

based

>>16023263
We all do...

>>16023720
i miss him so fucking much. if he had waited only a little while he could have fullfilled yomeigaku, but he coudnt wait

>>16023619
1st We're not Romans and Romans are ded.Also sodomizing is gayer than receiving because nothing is more degrading than anilingus or putting any part of the body in someone's shithole. The popular culture of Rome according to your post was that a feminine/unmanly person is the person who is most degraded. All that aside don't derail the conversation by confusing manliness with gayness, and being gay with being a sodomite.

>>16023270
fpbp

sun and steel

Confessions of a Mask is one of the most painful books I've ever read, not because it was bad, quite the contrary, but because how close it hits. I've had a lot of experiences and thoughts similar to those of the protagonist.

>>16023571
I got a raging hardon when he had blackmail sex with Satoko and kept on blackmailing her and she agreed

>>16024179
I think everyone did. It wasn't really blackmail, because she wanted iit. They were just using it as an excuse to fucc

>>16024293
of course, but the way Mishima describes her as putting herself together perfectly, without a hair out of place, a voice so clean it's almost otherworldly but she's really being defiled in secret

>>16023263
what book of his should I start with

>>16023551
Homosexuality in Japan dates back to at least the 11th century anon

Having finished the sea of fertility it fucking bummed me out how Satoko never acknowledged that she loved kiyoaki in the final chapter, or that he even existed, or she had known him. Just for me personally it fucking sucked. If she'd at least loed him, it would have offered me some comfort you know- nothing more than that. It would hae made the love pure. Aside from that, spring snow is the best novel I've ever read I think. the rest of em wee just not that good hey

>>16023336
If you have to ask, you might already know the answer, buddy.

>>16026294
My dumb interpretation was that she did, infact love him. So much so that she was willing to go against the imperial wills. And she loved him so much, that when Kiyoaki died, her love for him died with him, leaving her to live rest of her life as the abbess. Sad ending, nonetheless.

>>16026317
well i'd have to disagree with you on a couple of points, she takes the tonsure before kiyoakis death for one, and upon hondas pleas to the previous abbess of gesshu which detail kiyoakis sickness there is a small sob heard in the background. presumably this is satoko and she is emotional at his suffering, she still loves him, and yet she persists in a course of action which will lead the two of them apart. my gripe is that the bitter motherfucker mishima didnt give the people what they wanted and have satoko at least say she loved him at the end of the series. but we didn't get that.

>>16023336
Yes.

>>16023619
>Blocks your path

Hellenitstic degenerate scum fuck off

>>16025854
Homosexuality has existed since humanity gained conciousness because it is then that we saw something we can do, as something we could do. However by the virtue of its existence, it does not mean it is morally correct.

>>16023263
I miss him so much bros...

Mishima was a whiny LARPing faggot who ultimately accomplished nothing. Is this really the guy to idolize?

>>16023551
He very clearly knew he was gay and it shows in all of his writings. However, he just never wanted to fully embrace it because his sexuality and the persona he tried to create was rooted in his constricting childhood.

>>16023263
fact: ER is the only literary life comparable to mishima, d'annunzio, and lord byron.

>>16026790
its funny how his autism against scipio ironically led to the victory of the money powers he was opposed to