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What did he mean by spooks? Was it niggers? Ghosts? Terrorist? Or is it a metaphor for something greater?

>> No.16009182

>>16009172
dumb bitches

>> No.16009185

>>16009182
Dumb bitches? Or (((dumb bitches)))?

>> No.16009195

>>16009185
dumb bitches

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>>16009195
Tell me more

>> No.16009216

>>16009210
some dumb ass bitches.

>> No.16009249

>>16009210
no

>> No.16009318

Okay, jews
HAPPY??

>> No.16009555

>>16009318
MOrality is a jew???

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>>16009172
>le spooks

can’t believe people still take this retard seriously

>> No.16009568

>>16009561
Spooks are a spook

>> No.16009595

>>16009172
Fictional constructs that lead you astray.

>> No.16009746

a Spuk is a ghost (aka imaginary) scare

>> No.16009854

>>16009595
astray from what

>> No.16009862

If it's a manmade concept that makes you do things you otherwise would not, then it's a spook.

>> No.16009868

>>16009854
Reality.

>> No.16009882

>>16009555
YES A BIG FAT JEW WITH LONG HOOKED NOSE AND SMALL GRUBBY HANDS

>> No.16009991

>>16009172
doesn't matter because he was retroactively refuted by Hegel

>> No.16010179

>>16009862
Soooooo jewish influence then?

>> No.16010243
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Stirner’s entire ideology is, itself, a spook—and would lead to extinction of everything we love and hold dear in life, even our lives ourselves, and yet people here still think it’s “Based.”

I would honestly prefer Buddhism over Egoism; essentially, the entire eradication of the ‘self’ seems much better than the pursuit of fickle self-interests perpetuated by the ego in the first place.

I know some people try to take Egoism to the next level, but it just doesn’t work. The ancient knowledge and sciences through religion, whether it be Abrahamic or Dharmic or anything in between, is of much more value in terms of sustenance compared to modern ‘philosophies’.

I know people like Nietzsche think Christianity is a slave religion, however the case is that only Christ can save us. The eradication of the self, or the constant struggle for the satisfaction of the self, has hitherto been the best case against Christ: however, it has not worked. Christ has prevailed, and Christ will continue to prevail as is Christ’s nature. The modern century philosophers has crucified Christ and laid Him in His tomb, it is now time for Him to rise again. Hallelujah! Come quick, Lord Jesus. Amen.

>> No.16010408

>>16009172
How fucking stupid are you?

Put the books down and go back to your video games, you dumb cunt.

>> No.16010994

>>16010243
Love is a spook

>> No.16012056

>>16009854
free will i think, idk really know i'm halfway through

>> No.16012081

>people still take an inside joke among the YH seriously

>> No.16012114

>>16010243
stirner's egoism is just a western expression of taoist and zen principles. the language is a send-up of his contemporaries, but the argument, where there is argument, tends toward quietism rather than hedonism. |
isms isms isms

>> No.16012246

>>16009172
By "spooks" he meant "ghosts", but not like, ghost of anything specific, he just meant "imaginary things that scare us".
"Boogeymen" would be another word for the same idea that we're more familiar with (and doesn't have racial connotations).
Stirner's "spooks" are things/ideas we fear and trust and obey, but these ideas only exist in our minds, and are often things that we created by ourselves. Something like "duty to one's country" would be a spook. Your country (insofar as legal borders) doesn't really give a shit about what you do, let alone even ask or imply that you should do something for it's sake, yet many people are so haunted by this spook that they feel like they "owe" their country something (beyond taxes and legal behaviour) just for living in it.

>> No.16013041

>>16012246
For Stirner feeling like you owe taxes or legal behaviour is already spooked.

>> No.16013071

really not that stern of a guy

>> No.16013475

>>16009172
Spooks strongly correspond with Dawkins' memes. That is, parasitical information entities.

>>16012114
This. Surprisingly few people seem to acknowledge this parallel. In a buddhist context, spooks correspond to delusion.

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A spook is any abstract concept created by individuals that holds more power over the individuals than the individuals themselves. Religion, law, state, morals, truth...
And more "modern" ones that are not implicit in his work like gender, identity and basically any generalization that scapes sintaxis to dwelve deep into the Self.
Stirner, the last hegelian, or Stirner, the first post-estructuralist.

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>> No.16014997

>>16013041
Well I don’t technically feel as though I NEED to obey them, but I know there will be very real consequences if I don’t obey the law. The law itself is indeed a spook.

>> No.16015097

>>16009172
The world is a lie and there's nothing stopping you from doing anything. Anything you've been taught that's stopping you actually isn't, it's a spook.

>> No.16015139

>>16013475
>>16012114

its not a new connectio and the idea in the west has long been there before stirner.

its just that most major phil currents in the west realize, or believe, that even illusions by their very nature of being sensed are in some form a reflection of some aspect of reality rather than merely an obfuscation of it.

>> No.16015168

>>16015139
very unbased reddit-and-phone-poster unsurprisingly missing the point

>> No.16015280

>>16015168
no im just saying that the current isnt a solely stirner or eastern phenomenon.

>> No.16015327

>>16015280
neither is anyone else here man

>> No.16015341

>>16010243
you had me until
>only Christ can save us.

>> No.16015355

Personally, I think the first part of Stirner's ideology--spooks--is a great concept, but the second part, the union of egoists, is highly flawed. Stirner's egoist anarchism works best if you preach it for yourself but preach collectivism for everyone else--as long as the collectivism works in your favor that is. This is what I follow: deceive others into believing spooks but only if those spooks benefit your own ego. Do not attempt to make a "union of egoists", make a "collective" where you are the king.

>> No.16015411

>>16015327
oh ok, sorry.

>> No.16015667

>>16009172
Any element of social production that is already failing to extract your desire from you but you still hold on to it because somone said you should.
People love to do invest desire in social products like gender, nationalism, moralism, family etc etc, and Stirner doesnt say for you to just throw all those concepts into the trash he just warns you to be "conscious" about it, strip the holiness from them and not let them stand in your way if your desire is elsewhere.

A spook is any "should" that is thrown at you from someone else. Stirner doesnt tell you to hate the family, the nation and all that jazz but to not be imposed by those things. Choose and invest desire in anything you like.

>> No.16015681

>>16015355
That's the illuminati mate.

Reminder that a union of egoists is already at work in the world. The illuminati, or the followers of mystery babylon as bill cooper would put it, are secular humanist scientists that follow their own desires merely because it is their own desire.
They are united in this world against us, the plebs, and their goal is to reduce our numbers so as to avoid wastefulness in space and resources, only wishing to keep a sufficient number of us alive to be their slaves.
They have reserved the best genes, knowledge and influence for themselves and their bloodlines, not out of kinship but out of selfish interest.
We were just too late to the party.

>> No.16015704

>>16012114
Hit the nail on the head

>> No.16015766

>>16014997
which makes his philosophy a spook in today's age
>oh no! i better not be scared of things that aren't real!
then it isn't real until it smacks you in the head, pure rationality isn't enough usually to rid one of neurosis so better to just cope with the spooks and stay informed until you're living off grid protected by your own gun mounted drones, raising chickens.

>> No.16015786

>>16015355
>just be a sociopath dude lmao

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>>16015786

>> No.16015807

>>16015681
Lol, I WISH that existed. The reality is much starker. There is no group of smart people planning anything. Just 7 billion frothing morons destroying the planet for nothing.