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16004301 No.16004301 [Reply] [Original]

Vipaśit, the intelligent one (Self)—intelligent because Its nature of consciousness is never lost; na jāyate, is not born—It is not produced; na vā mriyatte, nor does it die. An impermanent thing, that has origination, is subject to many modifications . With a view to denying all the modifications in the Self, the first and last of these modifications, in the form of birth and death, are being denied in the text: "He is neither born nor dies." Moreover, ayam, this one—the Self; na kutaścit, did not come from anything—did not originate from any other cause; and from the Self Itself na kaścit babhūva, nothing originated—as something different from It. Therefore ayam, this Self; (is) ajaḥ, birthless; nityaḥ, eternal; śāśvataḥ, undecaying. This which is impermanent is subject to decay; but this one is everlasting; therefore, again, It is purāṇaḥ, ancient—new indeed even from of old. A thing is said to be new now which emerges into being through the development of its parts, as for instance, a pot etc. The Self, however, is opposed to them; It is ancient, i.e. devoid of growth. Since this is so, therefore, na hanyate, It is not killed—not injured; śarīre hanyamāne, when the body is killed—with weapons etc., though It exists there, just like space.

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I would be careful about reading Advaita Vedanta interpretations such as Shankara's as a commentary to the Upanishads, they are extremely reliant on Buddhist philosophy (Shankara is called a "cryptobuddhist" by most Hindus, and most scholars agree). If you want to read the Upanishads, work through them with editions and commentaries that aren't sectarian, or at least read an interpretation that is closer to the original meaning of the Upanishads, rather than Shankara's 9th century AD quasi-buddhism.

>> No.16004331

BAAAAAAASED

>> No.16004503

>>16004307
cringe

>> No.16004797

>>16004301
Retroactively refuted by Kundakunda

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>>16004797

>> No.16004945

>>16004928
Cryptobuddhist cringe

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>>16004945