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To avoid any further guenonfagging and other similar retarded shit, in this thread we discuss Advaita Vedanta before Shankara.

>> No.15963272
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For starters, a small excerp from Brihadaranyaka Upanishad

>> No.15963317

>>15963270
eastern schizo fetish

>> No.15963320

What kind of inside joke is this guenonfag thing?

>> No.15963329

>>15963320
There is an anon obsessed with Guenon who shitposted so hard about Shankara, that now it's virtually impossible to discuss Shankara without anons accusing you of being the guenonfag. As such, I made a thread about Advaita before Shankara.

>> No.15963893

Khushwant Singh BTFOd these spiritual retards

Osho realized how retarded some retards are and so went about using these retards to get himself a ton of money and pussy

>> No.15964039

>>15963329
It seems kind of silly to discuss a spiritual school except for that schools most prominent thinker, if retards are trying to derail the thread into petty arguments you can just ignore them and only engage with the people who are making serious posts
>>15963893
How did he btfo anyone?

>> No.15964105

>>15964039
He called them for out for being useless fuckers and pointed out how they were just wasting their times

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>>15964105
>useless
>wasting time
It seems Singh was just a dumb westernized victim of globohomo who was brainwashed to value the ephemeral over the eternal. God forbid that people actually use their time for introspection and to reach inner satisfaction instead of making money working for someone else to buy products which they don't need! Him and his ilk were BTFO'd by Guenon

>Is it because Westerners have come to lose their intellectuality by over-developing their capacity for action that they console themselves by inventing theories that set action above everything else, and even, as in the case of pragmatism, go so far as to deny that there exists anything of value beyond action; or is the contrary true, namely, that it is the acceptance of this point of view that has led to the intellectual atrophy we see today? In both instances-and if, as is probable, the truth lies between the two-the results are exactly the same; things have reached a point at which it is time to react; and this, be it said once more, is where the East can come to the help of the West (assuming the West is willing), not by thrusting upon it conceptions that are foreign to its mentality, as some persons seem to fear, but by helping it to recover the lost meaning of its own tradition.

>It is knowledge that serves as the 'unmoved mover' of action; it is clear that action belongs entirely to the world of change and 'becoming'; knowledge alone gives the possibility of leaving this world and the limitations that are inherent in it, and when it attains to the unchanging-as does principal becomes itself possessed of immutability, for all true knowledge essentially consists in identification with its object. This is precisely
what modern Westerners overlook: they admit nothing higher than rational or discursive knowledge, which is necessarily indirect and
imperfect, being what might be described as reflected knowledge; and even this lower type of knowledge they are coming more and
more to value only insofar as it can be made to serve immediate practical ends.

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>>15964256
>Absorbed by action to the point of denying everything that lies beyond it, they do not see that this action itself degenerates, from the absence of any principle, into an agitation as vain as it is sterile. This indeed is the most conspicuous feature of the modern period: need for ceaseless agitation, for unending change, and for ever-increasing speed, matching the speed with which events themselves succeed one another. It is dispersion in multiplicity, and in a multiplicity that is no longer unified by consciousness of any higher principle; in daily life, as in scientific ideas, it is analysis driven to an extreme, endless subdivision, a veritable disintegration of human activity in all the orders in which this can still be exercised; hence the inaptitude for synthesis and the incapacity for any sort of concentration that is so striking in the eyes of Easterners.

>These are the natural and inevitable results of an ever more pronounced materialization, for matter is essentially multiplicity and division, and this-be it said in passing-is why all that proceeds from matter can beget only strife and all manner of conflicts between peoples as between individuals. The deeper one sinks into matter, the more the elements of division and opposition gain force and scope; and, contrariwise, the more one rises toward pure spirituality, the nearer one approaches that unity which can only be fully realized by consciousness of universal principles.

>What is most remarkable is that movement and change are actually prized for their own sake, and not in view of any end to which they may lead; this is a direct result of the absorption of all human faculties in outward action whose necessarily fleeting character has just been demonstrated. Here again we have dispersion, viewed from a different angle and at a more advanced stage: it could be described as a tendency toward instantaneity, having for its limit a state of pure disequilibrium, which, were it possible, would coincide with the final dissolution of this world; and this too is one of the clearest signs that the final phase of the Kali- Yuga is at hand.

>> No.15964307

>>15964256
>>15964260
Oh no, he's here

>> No.15964336

>>15964256
>>15964260
>>15964307

The eternal guenonposter. He is inevitable. One of the last hermetic philosophers of the modern age

>> No.15964406

Didn't the Guenonposter convert to Islam years ago?
Is this another poster?

>> No.15964427

>>15964256
>>15964260
René Guénon's inspiring words shine as an undecaying source of illumination in the darkness of our age like a lighthouse

>> No.15964435

>>15964260
>>15964256
holy based....

>> No.15964540

>>15963270
Was Yajnavalkya a foreigner?

>> No.15964724

>>15963270
Have you read Gaudapada's Mandukya Karika, with or without Shankara's commentary? That is one of the few pre-Shankara texts which are unmistakably Advaitin, whereas other Vedanta schools would assert that Yajnavalkya et al actually taught their views. Mandana Misra was roughly contemporaneous with Shankara and some of his works may predate Shankara but I dont exactly remember the details.
>>15964540
No, he was one of the seven great Vedic seers (saptarishis)

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>>15964256
>>15964260
>>15964336
ALLAHU AKBAR!

>> No.15965155

bump

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Azad BTFOd Guenon and others of the Sufi gang.

Metaphysical larpers who added their own mumbo jumbo and made even the simplest and most basic of things over-complicated.

Become a man of action bros.

>> No.15966210

>>15964256
>It seems Singh was just a dumb westernized victim of globohomo who was brainwashed to value the ephemeral over the eternal. God forbid that people actually use their time for introspection and to reach inner satisfaction instead of making money working for someone else to buy products which they don't need! Him and his ilk were BTFO'd by Guenon

Lmao, nobody talked about endless consuming,
One can find meaning in things without going full retard delusional schizo mode.
Just do what makes you happy man,
Its your will to power vs others anyways.