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How do you feel about your mother?

>> No.15918512

i love her but she is a terribly abusive person and she put me through hell growing up. this book makes me cry. seeing the cover just now caused my eyes to water. i have a complicated relationship with my mother. she is severely mentally ill.

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>>15918503
She's weak and self-absorbed, if not full-blown narcissistic. I guess she did what was expected of her as a mother but I can't honestly say that she did much beyond that.

>> No.15918551

>>15918503
>mom used to read this to me when I was 5
>mom gifted me this book at age 26
>set book down
>having a bad day
>read book
>start crying
>mom knocks on the door
>answer with tears in my eyes and the book in my hand

She also used to read me that one about the bunny running away from the mom bunny

I love my mommy

>> No.15918571

She gets on my nerves because she is nosey and thinks she can do or say whatever she wants and get away with it because she's a woman
I think about hiring a big lesbian to kick her ass sometimes

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>>15918503
>I love you forever
>I like you for always
>As long as you're living
>My mommy you'll be
Love you mom. Sorry I'm such a disappointment.

>> No.15918590

I love her, but I can't write about it like girls on Instragram do. I never know how they put up a picture of mom or dad and write 5 paragraphs about how much their mom means to them and so on

>> No.15918592

>>15918543
What is it with this book and narcissist mom's? It's not always the case as >>15918551 shows but usually when this book is brought up the response is negative.

Is it that the message is high on promise and easy to fall short on? Or might there be something deeper?

>> No.15918595

>>15918503
mother is abomination.

>> No.15918597
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15918597

she's very narcissistic and abusive, I don't know if I will ever be able to forgive her.

>> No.15918602

>>15918592
I think the book is just very simplistic and repetitive
> I love my Mommy
> I love my Mommy sooooo much
> I love my Mommy a lot
> I love my Mommy super lots
> I love my Mommy etc

>> No.15918606

>>15918580
exactly! she is victim, you are problem. born wrong. blind faggots without self respect.

>> No.15918613

>>15918592
I thought it was cute. I figured it would make for good contrast with what I described.

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>>15918503
pretty much the usual woman.

she is
incompetent
[cant even tidy up a cupboard]
hysterical
addicted to sex
deluded that she is always smart and good

>> No.15918623

>>15918503

Ambivalent, sadly she suffered from severe depression, anxiety and all that jazz and she wasn't diagnosed until I was 20, she left my father when I was very little because she projected her issues ontonhim and blamed him for not being enough, as a result I never saw my father until I was in college and only sporadically heard him over the phone.
I understand what she went through but that didn't justify what I had to suffer because of her problems and sadly I didn't even know what was going on with myself since I saw pretty much everything through distorted glasses.

As I said, ambivalent

>> No.15918627

>>15918613
As kitschy and simplistic as it is it just somehow gets to me.

>> No.15918629

>>15918592
narc mom hates this book fwiw

>> No.15918634

>>15918580
>>15918606
This strikes me as very Asian, especially the second post.

>> No.15918635

>>15918503
ancestor worship

>> No.15918653

>>15918503
"mother" is a name of psychic disorder.

>> No.15918660
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I blame her for many of my problems. She used to spoil me when I was a child, and thus I grew fragile and overly sentimental. After the divorce (I was about five or six year old) she started to talk shit about my dad in a try to make me hate him; I don't do, but he is indeed for me a distant figure.
As she spoiled me, she didn't like my brother trying to get me out the house. I grew with little to no friends in my early childhood, and when adolescence I took refuge in the internet. I am socially crippled due to that.
She was negligent too with schooling. When I had homework, she didn't help me but did it for me. She never read me a book nor encouraged me to read; I picked up with the habit late on and I believe I have lost many things for that time will not bring.
There's also this early exposure to pornography I remember. After the divorce she used to rent porno movies in some place. The kind of movies with young actresses and hairy old men fucking on the floor of a pristine high-class preconstructed house; she watched it in bed while I was next to her in night-time. I remember she said ''I used to do that with your dad'', or something like that. Some days after that I accompanied her to the store and saw a DVD-case with a blowjob scene in the cover and said ''Hey, she's eating bread!'' or something like that. It was a long time after I realized what all of that really meant, although all of that had to do with my early sexual urges (and the fact that I was ''raped'' by a girl older than me, but that's another story).
As I was growing, I noticed she was like a little girl. Entitled, nosy, not aware of her age and overall a tendency to act impulsively. I am starting to despise her, although I know she's maintaining me together with my dad.

TL;DR She made me a coomer, socially crippled, insecure piece of shit, or at least I believe she did.

>> No.15918661

She is a hollow shell which I never got to know well. She didn't teach move love but fortunately I have learned it since from several persons during my life story - to receive love and give it back.

>> No.15918664

>>15918661

* move -> me

>> No.15918673
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>>15918629
I would imagine this is because the mother character becomes frail and fades out of importance at the end, in favor of his own child. Normal people see this as being part of the passage of life, but this gives great offense to the narcissist.

I wonder what kind of book Houellebecq would write to replace it.

>> No.15918680

>>15918590
This, I love my mom to death, but I cant just gush about it like chicks do.

>> No.15918690

>>15918660
hope you can find refuge in christ fren.

>> No.15918701

>>15918543
I should also mention that she and my father hid their failing marriage - which was my father's fault, admittedly - for more than a decade for the sake of "keeping the family together". I guess it goes without saying that it didn't really work out, so to this day I have no idea of what a healthy family is like. My father was extremely narcissistic, too, and a bit of an alcoholic and a veritable manchild - she divorced him a couple years ago, but even to this day she has this unwarranted sense of martyrdom about the whole thing, which combined with her lack of awareness of her part in playing the long con and lying to us for the better part of our lives makes me despise her as a person. I will take advantage of her so long as she remains useful to me, but I won't mourn her for long when she passes.

>> No.15918832

>>15918503
She has a very childish personality and not in charming way. Also whines a lot. Can't say I care much about her.

>> No.15918862
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Why do mothers crave hearing their children being thankful to them for existing, ie for the mother to have spread her legs and got a man to fuck her senseless and ending up pregnant?

>> No.15918993

She is manipulative, immature, and lacks self reflection. I used to carry a lot of anger twords her but now it's mostly just pity. Her life is a trainwreck and I don't expect it to end well.

It does still upset me sometimes though how she tried to convince me to join the military to be rid of me as a teen, because that is exactly how she disposed of my father. Ending their marriage with a letter when he graduated basic. How could a mother who would get that book so easily try to push their son into a potential meat grinder like that?

I just hope that she doesn't pull any bullshit when she moves in with my 90 yr old grandmother in a few months to look after her. She took care of me when I was little and might as well be my real mom. It pains me to be too far away to protect her.

>> No.15919103

>>15918503
>all the nordcucks ITT hating their own mother
that's why you get kicked of your own house or forced to pay rent at age 16

>> No.15919126

>>15919103
A lot of weak bitches on 4channel, who knew.

>> No.15919132

>>15918512
>i love her but she is a terribly abusive person and she put me through hell growing up
came here to say basically this

>> No.15919141

>>15918503
This thread explains a lot about /lit/.

>> No.15919149

>>15918503
She dead

>> No.15919155

My mother is a great person, and sacrificed everything for me and my brother. She doesn't display affection very often but when she does it's very warm, and she never demands a lot from us. She says she's proud of me and my brother very often which is a nice thing to hear from someone you care about.

I do wish she would quit smoking though.

>> No.15919305

>>15918503
I resent her very deeply and see her as the source of the majority of my problems.

>> No.15919342

ITT: A bunch of immature incels who project their failures onto their mothers because they don't want to acknowledge that they're lame.

>> No.15919352

>>15918590
>>15918680
Men aren't really made to make poetry to impress women. I still love my mom tho.

>> No.15919363

I don't know, I'm too emotionally repressed. I think if she died I'd cry at myself for not feeling the "right" thing or behaving in the "right" way. I'm such a selfish, shallow, weak, autistic wanker.

>> No.15919366
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>>15918660
If only you knew how much God loves you.

>> No.15919371

>>15919342
>t.clearly in denial

>> No.15919389

>>15918543

Many such cases. Women seem to have children for the same reason they look for men - as a social credit against their childless friends.

>> No.15919402

Women are unfortunately necessary for existence but I love my mother like a good little boy

>> No.15919420

>>15918503
She’s a whore and I’ll never forgive her for abandoning me

>> No.15919434

>>15919342
But I love my mother and she's a great person, see>>15919155

>> No.15919459

I love her but sad. When she had her third child she contracted myalgic encephalomyelitis, but this was before it was recognized as a real disorder, and no one would believe her. My father left her and my sisters haven't spoken to her in 7 years. Last year she was part of a study that found a biomarker for myalgic encephalomyelitis, thus proving that she was ill this entire time.

>> No.15919473

>>15919459
So sorry anon.

>> No.15919483

>>15918503
It's my birthday today.

Yesterday I was thinking about the way my mom would say "happy birthday" and tell me how happy my existence made her and the title of this book went through my head.

My father was a narcissist and the man she went on to marry when I was 8 was one too. The other day she watched him drag my sister out of the house by her neck proudly because she didnt leave the moment they said "get out".

>> No.15919489

>>15919342
is it possible for a man to stop being a white knight, or are all men meant to be simps ?

>> No.15919497

>>15919459
Coincidentally, that disease is getting more attention because we now know that covid-19 can cause it. I hope your father does right by her and redeems himself

>> No.15919533

>>15919489
Is it possible for you to transcend "permanently online" created categories like simps and white knights or do you think you are impressing someone by reinforcing them?

>> No.15919542

>>15918503
Terrible

>> No.15919560

>>15918503
My mother is the most unflinchingly kind woman I have ever met. She’s basically the antithesis to my neurotic asshat of a father. I’m scraping together as much as I can right now so she can quit her thankless job and retire in comfort.

>> No.15919563

>>15919560
You're a good person anon.

>> No.15919596

very immature, never had the sense that I could approach my parents with any serious problems. No sense of manners at all. When something bad happens or she's stressed she always starts yelling and blaming the person in the room for random things not associated with the thing that happened, problems are never attempted to be solved without an aggressive undertone. Had no idea how to raise children, when I started acting up as a child she always threatened to put me into the psych ward or orphanage. Supported my laziness. Mild alcoholism.

>> No.15919649

>>15919560
:D

>> No.15919658

My mom is coming to visit ME for the first time ever next month. I've always been the one to travel to her, but she's done raising her other kids now, so she can roam free again. I built a small cabin for her to stay in while she's here. Our relationship hasn't been the best, but she was never actively abusive to me, just negligent. We get on fine now.

>> No.15919714

My mom used to read me this book as a child.

She is without a doubt the best person I have ever known. Everyday I try to be half the person that she is. She is extremely kind, friendly, passionate... she is not the smartest woman, but that's taught me to not really value "intelligence" in other people as much.

She is very much an altruist, and I credit her with being the only reason why I'm a functional adult.

Growing up, she provided great contrast to my PTSD-ridden father who, while caring, is also plagued with an unfathomable brain injury from his job. When he would yell, cry, or become suicidal she would be the same woman she always was.

She isn't even religious (neither am I), but she lives an extremely moral and just life. I'm not saying she's the perfect human, but she's the closest I have ever met.

I love my mother.

>> No.15919796

>>15918503
Remember all those times I said you guys have mommy issues and you denied it...

Well at least we have empirical evidence for how mommy issues lead to fascist views now.

>> No.15919824

I love my mom.

In adolescence there was this definite point where I came to the realization she wasn't as wise or morally coherent as I'd idolized her as a child, and this was somewhat disappointing to me.

While I can sit down for lunch and have a good time with her, I feel like I have to suppress that around her and it can feel like a chore.

It's occurring with my dad too now.

>> No.15919841

>>15918634
http://powerfulmind.co/raised-by-a-toxic-mother/

>> No.15919843

>>15919796
Yesterday it was father issues, now you think it's mommy issues? Are you sure you're not just pulling an Adorno and looking for things to pin your ideological opponents with post hoc?

>> No.15919854

>>15919843
Not the anon who argued father issues, because I think most westerners inherently do have father issues because we en masse fall for the men aren’t affectionate meme. Mommy issues on the other hand are much more telling in determining someone’s politics.

>> No.15919858

>>15919854
>Mommy issues on the other hand are much more telling in determining someone’s politics.

I'm curious as to what sort of mental gymnastics goes on in this line of thought. Care to elaborate?

>> No.15919868

why do you think jesus spoke about separating children from parents? parents are a prison, a jail. you don't need four walls to be in a jail, you need one which constantly comes after you to tell how it loves you. like a TV you cannot turn off.

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She never hugged me

>> No.15919888

>>15918660
>my mommy made me this
>my mommy made me that
This thread is eye opening to why /lit/ is the way it is. Lol

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>>15919483
Hey my birthday was yesterday.

I love my mom, she made some mistakes but she has only good intentions for me and has helped me a lot. Now that I'm getting older (mid 20's) I see how we are alike in a lot of ways. Good relationship.

>>15919888
Seriously, I have some complaints about my father but some people really act like babies. Unless your mom molested or was very cruel to you, keep the complaining to a minimum.

>> No.15919917

>>15919858
it's fairly straightforward anon: women can literally do no wrong, all the world's problems are caused by men (but men are only bad because we live in a society)

>> No.15919927

My mother was very loving I was very young, but after she and my father divorced (due to his alcoholism, cheating and rather abusive behaviour) her life became very difficult and her mental health deteriorated. She came from a poor family and isn't intelligent or confident even when writing an email. In my early-to-mid teens when we would argue she never took the time to sit me down and talk to me calmly, listening to what I had to say and then stating her issue; when I asked her to do this in my mid-teens she accused me of bullying her by remaining calm and asking her to discuss things calmly. She threatened suicide quite a few times back then, sometimes running from the house mid-argument and telling me she was going for a drive (sometimes pointing out she would be driving to a beach which was a suicide hotspot) and that she didn't know if she was coming back. This probably contributed to my very apologetic, fearful nature and I usually resolved arguments by apologising or writing a note to put under her pillow saying I was sorry, even if I hadn't done anything. I idolised my mother growing up, really did, and I think her suddenly going from a loving mother to someone who seemed to hate me and think I was nothing but a terrible son damaged my willingness to be vulnerable to people. In 2017 at Christmas time there was some kind of argument when my sister and I visited home, and again it became a massive thing and my mother ended up crying, screaming and threatening to leave the house and kill herself. I pinned her against the wall when she said that and her facial expression was one of absolute animal-like, stupid, pitiful fear. I had never seen that expression before and I was really depressed and disgusted by it. Overall she has been supportive to me, which I'm grateful for. But I don't consider myself close to her, even though she is the one main reason I haven't ended my life yet (not to hurt her, etc).

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>>15919927
>she accused me of bullying her by remaining calm and asking her to discuss things calmly
KEKW

>> No.15919943

>>15919714
Sweet post.

>> No.15919955

>>15918503

We just got into a fight this morning about the fucking couch since my parents lost their jobs a while back and I had to sleep on it for the past three years.

>> No.15919983

>>15918503
My mother died when I was 13. She was a really good person, but had alot of demons and was not at all ready to be a mother. She did do her best, but eventually succumb to alcohol and drug abuse.

Because of her substance abuse, I did not really have a fantastic childhood. But I still do love her very much and miss her every single day. I really wish that she was still here.

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>>15918503
My mother was a homemaker while my dad worked in an office. She and I made home movies together. She had my little brother and they taught me how to care for little guys like him. The whole family went to church and Dad put me through college. My parents divorced when we were adults, but it still stung for a long period. I love my mom more than I love any other woman.

>> No.15920017

>>15920006
>She and I made home movies together.
women who do this have tons of amateur porn featuring themselves

>> No.15920025

>>15919983
Sorry to hear this mate.

>> No.15920029

>>15919854
Do you think mommy issues or crushing on a really cute older girl when I was 13 or so is the more likely culprit behind an affinity for straight shota fantasy scenarios? Both? I never cared for my mother that way but I wonder if it had an effect by proxy or something.

>> No.15920147

>>15918602
What? You don’t love your mommy? Faggot.

>> No.15920162

>>15920017
way to ruin anons comfy childhood memories

>> No.15920173

>>15920029
Crushing on an older woman as a boy is an extension of mommy issues.

T. Same thing happened to me except it was my female teachers.

>> No.15920183

>>15919858
I just meant that hatred of women is an extension of the political these days. If you don’t think hating women is connected to mommy issues you’re a brainlet. Mommy issues isn’t only muh Oedipal complex.

>> No.15920204

>>15919843
This is hilarious. What else does the right do but pin misinformation on its opponents post hoc? Adorno just shits on everything.

>> No.15920206

>>15920173
She was 17 or 18 and I was 13, so I wasn't sure if the age difference played into it or if I was just imagining things. She did have a much more developed body compared to my peers and I of course was still for all intents and purposes pre-teenage testosterone hit as far as my body type went. That difference between my gangly, awkward body and hers was pretty attractive for me, to be frank.

>> No.15920304

I have no idea how ill cope with her eventual passing, anons. Ill be ruined.

>> No.15920337

I'm pretty much a minor genius and shes like genuinely really stupid. She watches TV documentaries and believes that mermaids exist and shit. She doesn't know anything about me beyond the surface layer because she cant comprehend my complexity. Sounds fedora but anyone who has experienced something similar will understand. Strange how I am half her.

>> No.15920346

>>15918503
For the most part, I like her and we always got along well. We live in different parts of the country now, but when we lived nearer to each other, we would meet for lunch or go to museums and stuff. I enjoyed spending time with her.

Since 2016 and the fascism, I limit my time with any conservative members of my family. She's not MAGA, but she's also not critical of this administration. I talk to her a few times a year.

The only conservatives in my life are her and my brother. Fascism is here, it's active, and I don't want to have relationships with bootlickers.

>> No.15920382

>>15919342
obviously you don't know what toxic narcissists are, since you are one of them.

>> No.15920393

>>15918503
I love her so fucking much. I would die for my mother

>> No.15920395

>>15919871
I love you anon.

>> No.15920546

>>15919714
Based

>> No.15920610

>>15918551
I remember the bunny one too ;_;
I love my mom, she's the best. And I'm so glad she loves me.

>> No.15920651

>>15920382
That's a pretty big jump from one 4chan comment. Are you sure you aren't the narcissist?

>> No.15920703

She did her best and loves me dearly, but she is weak and her best was not great. She was unfaithful to my dad causing an early divorce. Her boyfriends were abusive and I never was able to bond with her at all, probably in no small part because of the childhood traumas. Now she's basically a fat and alcoholic npc boomer. I can't say I love her but she at least deserves that I pretend I do during visits.

>> No.15920718

>>15919103
Holy based

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>>15918503
I love my mother. She made me a healthy man, my father made me a strong one.

>> No.15920822

>>15918503
I'm amazed I didn't grow up to become a serial killer after the things she put me through, to be honest. She ruined a large part of my life.

>> No.15920837

>>15918503
Died when I was 15. 23 now, losing her was my greatest fear back then. Now it all feels so far away, I don't know if I'm well adjusted or obliviously numb.

>> No.15920854

>>15920651
I don't blame lame for their lameness. I know how stupid parents opress their children and how these traumas define the whole life of a child without him being aware. I know how stupid toxic wife can almost kill whole family. I see examples everywhere, constantly. I did a lot of research, very. You just tell others how lame they are. No any professional psychologist will say that to a client, opposite, the problem of those lame children is they had no respect from parents, they were treated as property, as toys, as pets. and more religious parents more sick their children are.

a long time ago in many cultures a boy was taken away from his mother once he became 7 yo. mother cannot teach to be a warrior.

>> No.15920855

>>15920346
My mom went full MAGA, which is awkward now that people are getting yeeted into unmarked vans where I live. She's a smart woman with several degrees. She just has few friends, and Fox News became her only hobby.

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Am I the only person that comes from and still has a stable two parent home? Like holy fuck guys I feel so bad for you all. Both my parents were great and I have no complaints about either. I’m sorry you guys were deprived of this :(

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>>15919132
i’m sorry you relate, fren

>> No.15920886

>>15920855
>now that people are getting yeeted into unmarked vans where I live
i don't understand why anybody is bothered by this, i'm sure we can all think of several groups of people we'd like to do the same to no matter where you are on the political spectrum

>> No.15920908

>>15920877
I often wonder about this. Are stable, two parent homes really that rare, or is the internet just more of a draw for maladjusted people who need to vent?

>> No.15920949

>>15920886
Sure there are people I wish could just be disappeared. The point is that we can't do that in a democracy with laws and individual rights. It's Gestapo tactics, and worrying that it's happening on US soil. It may not be a problem for you if you're a fascist, but for those of who have had sex, this is pretty appalling. Also, from a practical standpoint, anyone can go to a military surplus store and buy what ICE is wearing for these arrests. How do you know the person trying to force you in that old 2011 Honda Odyssey is a real cop if they don't identify themselves? This is also a country where many people carry guns. It's a recipe for disaster, and people are going to wind up dead.

>> No.15920963

>>15919824
I had the same challenge. I thought it got better recently when I was spending more time with her, but I realized it was my younger sister that made it easier to get on with my mother. I have love more than respect for her, anyway. Worse with my dad since his problems seem like they've been glaring for years, but I'm only just coming to terms with the gravity of them.

Feels like a /b/-tier Baww thread got a new coat of paint, so fuck me for taking part.

>>15920855
>>15920886
>yeeted into unmarked vans
wut
Tell me you guys are from fucking Somalia or something, or else tell me what the deal is with the apparent political abductions.
>>15920949
fug elaborate or link something more pls

>> No.15920973

>>15920963
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland

>> No.15921006

>>15919366
based

>> No.15921016

>>15919900
costly signalling

>> No.15921029

>>15919941
wrong website

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>>15918551
Fuck, just the thought of those two books are making me legitimately cry

I need to call my mom

>> No.15921063

>>15920346
>MAGA is fascism
are you people alright?

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>>15919366
Really feeling this lately. Never prayed like this before

>> No.15921084

>>15920973
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285486125792944128
These are the people getting arrested, and that's a good thing

>> No.15921097

>>15921063
https://twitter.com/matcha_chai/status/1283328232033411072

>> No.15921099

>>15920973
Thanks for the info.

>> No.15921108

>>15921084
Wow, that changes everything. It's totally fine to illegally arrest random people now because a fed who shouldn't have even been there was slapped

>> No.15921121

>>15918503
I hate her. I think she's the only person in the world I really hate. I hate her only like an imperfect statue can hate the sculptor, like imperfect art piece can hate the creator. There is no other hate stronger than that I've ever experienced. I don't even hate myself as much as I hate her.

>> No.15921128

>>15921063
No, they aren't. He's so desperate for status and privilege that he's throwing his own mother under the bus for it. And this bootlicker has the gall to say others have mommy issues, jesus fucking christ.

>> No.15921130

>>15918503
one woman said it would be so great if kittens never grew up into adult cats and always remained kittens. defines the scale of autism of women after WW2.

>> No.15921134

>>15918503
stop trying to dissect my mommy issues

>> No.15921227

>mother would always take her aggression out on me or her boyfriend
>very grateful when she had a boyfriend to scream at
>only time she would leave me alone was when I was reading
I should thank her for my love of literature I guess...

>> No.15921233

>>15919714
based

>> No.15921250

>>15920908
I guess if you have a stable situation 4chan is probably not the place you’d usually end up now that I think about it.

>> No.15921289

>>15920908
Increasingly, yes. Only 25% of Black Americans know their fathers (not "were raised by", know who their fathers are; the number raised by ANY man is much lower, 16% or so). For Whites it's not nearly that bad, but it's getting worse. So yes, there's certainly a selection bias, but it's not unwarranted.

Really, the problem is that families simply aren't necessary anymore. The fag in here who's shunning his mother for having a brain is a good example of that: does he really need to have a mother? He just prodooces and consooms product all day, for the betterment of capitalism. His wants, needs, morals, and tastes are all set by people who want to sell him things. Really, what's the point of a family? Happiness? Happiness doesn't sell, so who cares?

Blacks are the system's guineapigs in a lot of ways. It was Blacks who Progressives infected with syphilis to see what the fuck it did, and it was Blacks who Progressives forced single-motherhood on. Epstein was also really interested in unironic mind control and hypnosis, using Blacks as his guineapigs (tl;dr he and a few other Harvard bigwigs wanted to figure out how to hypnotize girls into being sex slaves).

When you see that figure about only 25% of Blacks knowing who their fathers are, understand that there are powerful people who want that to be the case for you and yours.

>> No.15921307

Im legitimately about to cry reading out these posts and typing this message.

My mom means everything in the world to me, I owe almost everything I have to her. I regret ever getting mad at her or having fights with her. She's so loving and cutesy. I dont know if I'll ever be able to prepare myself for when she has to leave this earth one day. I dont know what I'd ever do without her.

>> No.15921321

>>15921289
I'm curious as to what you think the black community would be like nowadays if they weren't used as guinea pigs for social experiments. Do you think they would have been able to integrate better?

>> No.15921388

>>15921321
Yes and no. "Integration" is an inherently pro-system ideal. It IS the idea of using Blacks as guineapigs. In that sense, Blacks integrated perfectly. All post-Civil War integration and immigration is based off of the model of Black (and Irish) integration.

There are no Black institutions, no Black organizations, and no Black power. Blacks are entirely, totally, and utterly dependent upon the system. This is literal, if the US Federal Government went away most Blacks would starve to death, so powerless are they that they can't even farm (25% of Blacks in America died within a month after slavery was abolished, from starvation). Blacks are raw biopower, and nothing more. This is an absolutely horrifying state of affairs so before some retard comes in here saying I'm a bad person for thinking that it's good, no, I do not think it's good.

So, if we're doing aut-hist here, the point is kind of moot. If the forces that resulted in them being guineapigs were not present, then they wouldn't be in North America anyways (an Illiberal US means no African slaves). I'm going to loosely say "yes", that if the system had just left them alone, they'd be much better off in basically every way imaginable. But, again, the forces that did these things to Blacks (and are doing them to other groups) are in place for reasons, and those reasons run deeper than just "Blacks are dumb" or "Whitey and the Jews don't like Blacks".

tl;dr the Black man was fucked from the get go.

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>>15918595
t. resents his parents because he's a failure

>>15918653
t. anti-natalist monomaniac

>>15918862
>ie for the mother to have spread her legs and got a man to fuck her senseless and ending up pregnant?
A good mother does far more than that. It's obvious that few of you anons have had good parental models in your lives, and it shows in your superficial beliefs.

>>15919371
Impossible to prove, but believe in whatever supports your victimhood.

>>15919841
What tumblr shit is this? All of these could be caused by a number of things, like being bullied or taken advantage of.

>> No.15921505

>>15921391
I have a burning hatred against people who resent their moms

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>>15918503
I love my mom

>> No.15921570

>>15921391
>What tumblr shit is this? All of these could be caused by a number of things, like being bullied or taken advantage of.
Points 7 and 8 seem to be pretty mommy specific. You're absolutely right about points 1-6, which can be caused by any traumatic childhood experience, especially repeatable ones like school bullying. Unfortunately, a lot of people do have terrible parents who bullied them at home. It's not uncommon or unthinkable for someone to resent thier parents when they were abusive. Some people just didn't have a good upbringing.

>> No.15921575

>>15921509
Nice, anon. Give her a call today

>> No.15921619

>>15921570
we all are born equally important, division parents/children is a hardcore case of Stanford prison experiment, love for parents is a case of Stockholm syndrome, it is not love, but pity. love makes you fly, pity makes you obedient and weak.

>> No.15921643

>>15921619
In that case, I love my parents. Besides, everything is Stockholm syndrome. Religion is, wanting laws is, having friends is, being a pessimist/optimist is. When you slack the criteria needed to make something "Stockholm syndrome," you end up making everything "Stockholm Syndrome." The same is with something being a cult.

>> No.15921648

>>15921619
Man, I despise my mom, but even I think this seems like a cope. Parental love exists. Saying you didn't need it is bargaining at best and sour grapes at worst. Good parents do exist, and they want their children to succeed, not to be blindly obidient.

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>>15921121
You may need some counselling, anon. There's not much you can do about the past, but your life is salvagable, even when you've been dealt a bad hand in the beginning. I would try to move on, and make the future better than your childhood.

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>>15921289
>>15921388
>mommy issues randomly veering off into talking blacks not knowing their fathers
Stefan is that you?

>> No.15921734

>>15921648
what is to love a car? to love to ride and show off to friends or feel the car, know what it needs, listen to it? if mother loves you, does she know what do YOU love? does she know what you dream of, what are you afraid of? or simply loves you like a toy? children for women are like slot machines for men, press a button hear the cling sound, alive! to live is like to ride a vehicle, and there's a rule not to distract driver while he drives. toxic parents distract all the time, demand attention, can poison whole life. when drug or alcohol addicts are treated first what they do is to completely cut off any communication with outside world, especially relatives. most of those guys have problem with mothers, sometimes wives. vampires feeding off energy of kids, private property.

>> No.15921760

>>15921734
So you're just talking about toxic parents

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>>15921734

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I feel like some part of me is missing because I don’t love my family, especially my mother, but I really just can not love them. It makes me afraid that if I have my own family one day it will be the same way.

>> No.15921968

>>15918580
literal me in that japanese woodcarving photo knowing im a failure as neet to my mother who devoted her time to raise me

>> No.15921995

>>15918503
>Reminder that Munsch wrote this after his wife's first two children were stillborn.

>> No.15921998

>>15921716
Anon asked, I answered. I can rant about eggs if you want but honestly I'd just be making something up on the spot.

>> No.15922013

>>15918503
lol so many on this board apparently have mommy problems

>> No.15922025

>>15922013
4chan seems to attract malcontents and weirdos. There's probably a reason for that.

>> No.15922072

>>15918503
My mommy luvz me and I luv my mommy :)

>> No.15922448

>>15918503
I didn't kill her when I could have -that's the nicest thing I can say about her. Now that I'm an adult I'm obediently waiting for her to die instead of constantly fighting the desire to murder.

>> No.15922494

>/lit/ is full of mommy issue faggots
That explains a lot

>> No.15922819

>>15918503
I wish to have sex with her

>> No.15922927

I love her but she is extremely petty and childish. She's also got brain damage so she's a little slow. She fell from a fire escape a few years after she had me and suffered a brain injury. She can still function, eat, sleep, etc. but she still thinks it's the 1990's, she hasn't had a job in over twenty years,and her memory is absolutely horrible. If you piss her off she ignores you like a child and won't answer her phone.

I really feel bad because I want to help my mom, but she was never there for me growing up to begin with. Neither was my father. They were total fuck ups and very abusive people.

I need her help getting documents procured for my dual citizenship and the bitch won't pick up her phone because I wouldn't get an apartment with her two years ago after she started asking me to take her everywhere. Honestly, as much as I wish I could help her in a lot of ways, cutting all ties is something I plan on doing the minute I get the documents I need from her. She doesn't care about me and it's obvious from the way she behaves towards me. I wish I could help her in so many different ways but I can't. If I was wealthy and had stable passive income I'd give her the world despite everything.

>> No.15922988

>>15919796
Given how 4chan users tend toward more androgynous personality traits, I would guess most users have issues with their father.

>> No.15923445

What is the Dad equivalent of Love You Forever?

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>>15918503
I love her, my dad died when i was a baby so she raised me and my older brother all by herself, she's the woman i love the most and i always try to make her proud.
Yes, i have mommy issues fuck you

>> No.15923673

>>15918623
Daddy wasn't really making an effort here huh.

>> No.15923834

>>15918503
My mother is always cheerful yet stern enough to talk sense to me if i'm being a retard, same as my father.
It's really easy to take good parenting and easy childhood as granted.

>> No.15923851

>>15918503
like all other women, my mother is a dumb, dirty hooer

>> No.15923858

>>15918503
I hate my mother and I hate my grandmother. They are responsible for 95% of my current suffering easily.