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how right wing? if you want far right or third position check this

>Posts animé
>Wants to get into environmentalism
>can’t give up his IDpol spook.

>>15900262
>right-wing environmentalist
Oxymoron.

Miyazaki has the ecological understanding of a child, no wonder his movies have no clear message
>hurr durr nature good, human bad

>>15900278
maybe he means socially right wing? not economically.

>right-wing environmentalist
>Oxymoron.

>>15900278
>what is eco-fascism

>>15900290
>nature good, human bad
yes. more than half of humans today should die.

Linkola.

>>15900295
As soon as this rightwing give up capital and the state, we can talk.

>>15900272
>isn't aware that mudpeople couldn't give a fuck less about the environment and trash their communities daily

>>15900311
Be the change you want to see in the world and start by (you)

>>15900329
You’re in over your head, Donny.

>>15900330
i will start mailing packages to technophiles do not worry.

>>15900278
Liberal ideas, governments, and people have given rise to all of the environmental problems in existence today. "Progress" did this to us.
The undoing of "progress" through hostile means (war) is a right-wing environmentalist action. Imagine giving China an ultimatum on pollution levels and enforcing it with bombings of industrial infrastructure and power plants. War is, by the way, very environmentally friendly, lowering human populations. As armies move on from a battlefield nature moves back in to the spaces that have been cleared.

>>15900338
Enjoy your community when it gets culturally enriched and turns into the equivalent of a toxic waste dump.

tfw no right wing trad environmentalism gf

>>15900379
We’re currently a toxic waste dump

>>15900278
The Nazi's were leftists then?
Glad we agree comrade!

>>15900390
Because they’re mythical

>>15900395
Some places much more then others.

>>15900410
than*

>>15900295
>maybe he means socially right wing? not economically.
That is just conservatism, no? Right vs Left is about the extent to which arbitrary hierarchy should confer concentrated power. Liberals are the adversaries of Conservatives, not Leftists.

>>15900327
book looks interesting

>>15900410
Left-wing thought is based around equality in general, so no one is ever safe from being a dump. They must be equalized, so any refuge must have Section 8 housing, a public housing project, etc. to bring in the nastiness. That is the end goal and there were laws made in the Obama era in the US to accelerate that. You can see it at work in many formerly nice neighborhoods in US cities.

>>15900410


>>15900399
Capitalists. Imperialists. These are not environmentalists.

>>15900410
The places transnational corporations choose to dump toxic waste, you mean?

>>15900420
i meant socially conservative like Traditionalism and tribalism. i think that what he mean by right wing because capitalism is not environmentalist.

>>15900278
>right-wing environmentalist
>Oxymoron.

>>15900390
Being born in the wrong generation

>>15900428
>Capitalists. Imperialists. These are not environmentalists.
wrong. they are socialists. the mahor industries were owned by state men through hierarchy. nazis were enviromentalist more than capitalists. the imperial part can be said about the ussr too.

Left-wing environmentalism: Environmentalism for the sake of humanity/all people equally.
Enforcing common environmental law throughout the world via global organizations such as the UN and coopering with other countries to achieve shared environmental goals.
Right-wing environmentalism: Environmentalism for the sake of individual, tribal, and national goals.
Destroying a major Chinese city every month until their polluted air stops blowing in our direction.

>>15900455
both are cool. we need environmentalism but these leftists always argue about queer theory and gay environment and do nothing to spread there gay environmentalism.

>>15900399
Just curious: what specifically about Nazi industrial activity makes you think they were environmentalists? (This should be good.)

>>15900448
They killed socialists. Do you honestly believe a century old propaganda lie just to be contrary?
And there’s no deflecting this by calling out the Soviets. State capitalism vs state capitalism? Not environmentalists.

anprim are cool but these FAGGOTS who pose as anprims but do nothing but cause infighting should fucking die. i rather get sodomized by a trans humanist than put up with them.

>>15900262
Pentti Linkola is pretty popular among Third Positionists these days

>>15900428
Give me the quick rundown

>>15900429
The places where subhumans choose to shit in the river and dump their plastic bottles that they just drank from.

>>15900486
Anything "primitivist" is stupid. A city is an environment just as a jungle is one. A city could be a good environment, or a bad one

>imagine having the argument skills of a 15 year old hurr durr propaganda

>>15900478
economically speaking they are third position and socialist read there economist "feder" or watch cultured thug videos please.

>>15900492
>Give me the quick rundown

>>15900262
As long as there are oil and factory farming magnates, there is no Right environmentalism

>>15900504

i shit on fagprims. im anprim but jesus fucking christ its nothing but kids fighting eachother instead of fighting the establishment. is all anarchists like that?

Impeachment of Man - Savitri Devi

>>15900514
real anarchist don't exist anymore, now it's just a phase for the socially excluded

>>15900492
>The places where subhumans choose to shit in the river and dump their plastic bottles that they just drank from.
You're kidding, right?

>>15900512
its true. you can repeat buzzwords from marxists who attacked third positionists at the time or actually read about it.

>>15900524
Is that the criterion you accept for terminology coinage?

>>15900478
All socialists killed socialists, it's what socialism is about, even Engles said it.
>>15900477
>what specifically about Nazi industrial activity makes you think they were environmentalists?
>all industrial activity overrules environmentalism.
Literal absolutist thought.

>>15900505
Ok doomer. Self-select by rolling over and dying.

>>15900529
Just saying I’m beyond market capitalism. Reading this >>15900327
it’s the linchpin of all our problems. When the “rightwinger” wakes up to this fact, we can get a nice functioning mature world going.

>>15900528
>real women don't exist anymore, now it's just a phase for the socially emasculated
Fuck off, tranny.

>>15900540
If you have a better one post it.

>>15900528
anarchists exist but the majority on social media are kids

>>15900550

>>15900554
based schizo

>>15900530
They do it in India. It's an open sewer. They also dump corpses in there. A literal cesspool.

>>15900561
The term "capitalism" was coined by socialists, hence private ownership of the means of production must be abolished. QED.

>>15900553
i don't mind anything new, we need that. i just wanted to tell the difference between capitalism and third position. marxists back then shat all over it with buzzwords and propaganda that its capitalist and whatsnot. they were just salty that someone new came when it was supposed to be only them.

>>15900278
Conserving nature has always been a right wing thing. It's not the hippies bitching about trees that actually make sure that wildlife doesn't go extinct, it's hunters.

>>15900580
Not a student of mathematics, I assume.

>>15900589
It was just an example since you were incredulous.

>>15900586
Explain it. How does it differ?

>>15900583
Why the fuck are you telling me about capitalism. Have you actually read the authors you're trying to disagree with?

Why hasn't Butterfly been abducted by the DHS secret police?

>>15900568
Then get it together and resist the invasion of the polluting hordes.

>>15900599
one difference is that capitalism want privatization of major industries for the sake of economy. national socialism want major industries to be owned by leaders in the government for the sake of the german people. being more environmentalist than economy based motives.

>>15900588
>Conserving nature has always been a right wing thing.
(expecting the introduction of a novel conception of environmentalism, involving some sort of traditional feudal stewardship of...)

>It's not the hippies bitching about trees that actually make sure that wildlife doesn't go extinct, it's hunters.
(lol... there goes that idea!)

>>15900610
... yeah.

>>15900616
China’s Dengism. Very efficient capitalism. We see it now.

>>15900617
Day to day reality is just as important, if not more so, than some generative philosophical idea.

>>15900622
Apathetic fool

>>15900630
yeah china is not communist. fascism is socialism. they use socialism even if they have a different goal or if they are mean. i hate chinese scum they should go first in the human genocide.

>>15900642
Not quite the word.
I am very concerned. Still formulating, but perhaps it’s fear keeping me stationary. I’ve been questioning myself on this more and more since the virus though.

>>15900478
>They killed socialists.

They killed BOLSHEVIKS.

>capitalism is when you kill bolsheviks and invade other country

>>15900616
>one difference is that capitalism want privatization of major industries for the sake of economy.
I.e., market-oriented capitalism -- aka Plutocracy.

>national socialism want major industries to be owned by leaders in the government for the sake of the german people.
I.e., state capitalism -- aka Totalitarianism.

>being more environmentalist than economy based motives.
Not sure what you mean there.

From the point of view of efficiency, what society obviously needs is Socialism -- i.e., ownership of the M.o.P. by those who built and operate it, with ownership of land and natural resources shared collectively by the citizenry.

>>15900530

A common problem for missionaries in Africa was people dumping garbage into the wells they had just dug for drinking water...

>>15900702
>Socialism -- i.e., ownership of the M.o.P. by those who built and operate it,
thats what National Socialism is. Germans built it so it must be owned by them.

>>15900703
You're kidding, right? Do you literally think that that behavior represents more than 0.0000001% of the problem?

>>15900672
The answer is ethno-ecovillages. Ban motorized vehicles, fast fashion and meat consumption.

>>15900702
>Not sure what you mean there.
i meant a country that care about the well being of people and their state is more eco than a capitalist country caring only about the economy and profit.

>>15900492
>The places where subhumans choose to shit in the river
White people have never shat in a river, totally never happened ever. Also wouldn't radical environmentalists promote shitting in rivers rather than using toilets?

>>15900714
>thats what National Socialism is
No, that's the definition of socialism.

Give up on the state, guys. Please. Turn away from markets and money.
I can’t do this alone.

>>15900731
which was their economic approach

>>15900738
you are the fag who started jacking off about right/left wing and markets

>>15900748
No.

>>15900741
The problem is, the Nazi approach to 'non-economic issues' involved throwing people into ovens and whatnot.

these leftists who read queer primitivism and cow rape book should be fucked in the ass by me wfusvdsvsrVB[SUOrBV]

>>15900748
>the fag who started jacking off
... surely lived many *many* millennia B.C., no?

>>15900763
>capitalism is when you throw people into oven

>>15900778
Reread the thread, sicko.

>>15900278
Oh? Tell me how the current liberal environmentalism with corporate astroturfism is true environmentalism.

>>15900729
Hasn't happened in any meaningful scale for hundreds of years at least. Too many non-whites have demonstrated that they've hit an evolutionary dead end. Radical environmentalists would never promote that, but for it to be composted.

It’s not right wing but Ethics for the City by Richard Sennett is pretty good in general. Just ignore the bias of it’s that bad

>>15900278
Ever heard of ecofascism? The right goes further than retard boomer conservatives.

>>15900763
All ideology evolves. No one is advocating for putting people into ovens or gas chambers. How barbaric. We will engineer a virus that indiscriminately kills at least 70% of the infected, make it extremely infectious and spread it everywhere.

After the die off we implement a global 2 child doctrine enforced by threat of complete annihalation.

>capitalism is when people are mean and cis gendered
>environmentalism is when we abolish gender
>tribalism is not environmentalist because racism
>socialism is when fucking donkeys

>>15900788
I never said anything about either "liberalism" or "conservatism" in this thread so far. But obviously it is rightwing liberalism that has brought us as a species to this point of destruction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

>>15900810
>The right goes further than retard boomer conservatives.
Do you know what website we're on? I'm pretty sure everyone is well acquainted with every variety of far right larping by now, and it's fucking gay

>>15900810
Yeah. It’s a rebranding term. Just like “alt-right”. Liberals love repackaging old shit.
Drop the edgy bs and take the real “red pill”

>>15900811
>We will engineer a virus that indiscriminately kills at least 70% of the infected, make it extremely infectious and spread it everywhere.
good, if we chose comfort we deserve everything we have now. human chose civilization and he deserve plagues.

>>15900832
>comfort bad
This is a retarded way of thinking

leftists plagued butthole is gaping and spreading diseases because they can't stop having filthy sex.

>>15900810
>Ever heard of ecofascism?
I've heard of "square circles" too. Doesn't mean the phrase makes any logical sense.

>>15900827
The real red pill is the nazis banned animal testing, banned the poisoning of animals, reforested and were on there way to banning trapping. You should take that moth out of your trip because you've never given a shit about insects, animals or ecology and you would probably torture all of them if it meant white people would go extinct.

butterfly just had to come from his shitty white collar job and shit up /lit/ yet again

>>15900857
>you're not a frothing at the mouth white supremacist therefore you hate white people
You guys really are one of the most annoying groups on the internet

>>15900327
Nah, I'm gonna keep the state and keep fucking up little anarkiddie's playpens.

>>15900857
If you hurt an animal in Nazi Germany and were convicted of it you were likely to be sent to a concentration camp.

>>15900881
Seeing as defending the existence of white people is 'white supremacy' yeah it's pretty much a dichotomy. It wasn't us who made the rules that way

>>15900901
Nobody is attacking you for being white, there's nothing being defended just angry incels with a victim complex.

>>15900271
Where can I find this?

>>15900278
>you
Moron.

>>15900933
Gaslight somewhere else, kike.

>>15900763

And the Capitalist approach was throwing people into internment camps.

And the socialist approach was Gulags.

But you've been brainwashed by old propaganda that the Nazis were zombie vampires.

>>15901044
>the socialist approach was
Soviets weren’t socialists

>Nazis planted trees and imprisoned anybody with a flytrap. Uncle Adolf was a vegetarian and loved bunnies
>And slaughtered Jews, gypsies, socialists, homosexuals and the deformed.

>>15900378
Maybe in the grand scheme of things war is environmentally friendly, but no I disagree. A number of states in the US don't let you hunt waterfowl with lead, I imagine that the amount of lead in the soil after a big battle is quite toxic. Also think about the trash produced by warfare like brass, plastics from food, human waste from latrines and stuff like that. War is a messy business. Have a look at the pictures of Vietnam in the places where there was a lot of fighting. Its ruined

>>15901000
>provocative clickbait titles written by mentally ill lesbians
wow so much white oppression and genocide

just read industrial society and it's future.

>>15901073
>Soviets weren’t socialists
soviets are very mean! they are capitalists!!!

>>15900262
>Pentti Linkola - Can Life Survive?
>Martin Heidegger - Question Concerning Technology
>Ludwig Klages - The Biocentric Worldview
>>15900278
Neoliberalism and Industrial Socialism have done more harm to the environment than Fascism and Premodern Empires ever did

>>15901073
>>Nazis planted trees
>>And slaughtered Jews, gypsies, socialists, homosexuals and the deformed.
thats environmentalism right there. kill all humans in your territory but your tribe.

>>15901195
>Neoliberalism and Industrial Socialism have done more harm to the environment than Fascism and Premodern Empires ever did
You are talking in terms of vague fanciful abstractions. Do you agree that voting for Republicans like Trump will result in greater concentrated wealth among Wall Street cocksuckers, and thus fewer environmental regulations and fewer labor regulations, hence less real income for the average middle-class citizen?

>>15900262
knut hamsun's works

>>15900738
How the FUCK would you even initiate ecological preservation and strict environmental protection regulation without a state? You need to abandon your childish fixation on anarchism. You're getting close sweetheart.

>>15901112
Show me the opposite in mainstream publications, jew.

>>15901112

>>15901112
Have you seen "kill yt" spray painted everywhere or do you only watch cable news?

>>15901288
Wheres the ethnocide against white people? When were white people ever considered an ethnicity? Being white isn't a culture, and not all cultural change is ethnocide.

>>15901270
>t. hasn't read the book

>>15901300
I know for a fact that white supremacists manufacture fake hostility all the time

>>15900313
>>15900488
>>15901195
>>Pentti Linkola
retarded fucking faggots
he never gave a single fuck about nationalism and the "European man". his only concern was saving the ecology. and at one point he even suggested that europeans should start living with africans for the sake of less consumption. he was in the favor of people getting culled in high consumption countries. this includes the whole west because they have the biggest carbon footprint and consoom the most on this planet.
Linkola was such a nazi that he even supported Greta.

>>15901323
ok

>>15901323
There's a little old man, standing by my window
There's a little old man, hiding in the shadows
The uninvited guest, could never have been a friend
The uninvited guest, he would never come back again
There's a little old man, I'd say he looks like Misery
There's a little old man, I could really use his company

>>15901288
I found the following on wikipedia:

>Ethnocide refers to the extermination of national cultures as a genocide component. Reviewing the legal and academic history of usage of the terms genocide and ethnocide, Bartolomé Clavero differentiates them by stating that "Genocide kills people while ethnocide kills social cultures through the killing of individual souls". In addition, "since cultural genocide can only be the cultural dimension of genocide", the idea of ethnocide goes beyond the idea of "cultural genocide", because it is part of a broader genocidal process.

>>15901303
More gaslighting bullshit. This entire summer has been about how bad white people are. Tearing down historical monuments to white people, assaulting white people openly, killing them, prosecuting them for defending themselves. What a fucking kike you are.

>Abolish the White Race
http://harvardmagazine.com/2002/09/abolish-the-white-race.html

>Anti-Defamation League Names Celtic Cross as Racist Symbol
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Anti-Defamation-League-names-Celtic-Cross-as-racist-symbol.html

>ADL Official at Extremist Event Falsely States 95% of Terrorism in U.S. from White Supremacists
http://gotnews.com/video-adl-official-at-extremist-event-falsely-states-95-of-terrorism-in-us-from-white-supremacists/

>>15901281
Do big men cry when little girls hit them? How about the alternative?

>>15901347
The people who are protesting are a minority of a minority, and the protesters engaging in retarded shit are an even smaller minority of the protesters in large. Someone else's stupidity doesn't justify your own stupidity

>>15901341
Culture and race are the same thing, so there's no difference. I don't give a fuck what some shill says.

Tribalism is primitive. queer leftism is not.

>>15901347
The idea that the Whites should somehow magically *NOT* be exterminated is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Let's cut the bullshit and face reality.

>bunch of retarded links
It's OVER, incel. Let it go.

>>15901354
Powerful minorities have always led society. What do you think National Socialists were? Besides, the vast majority of jews are Zionist. At those numbers we're talking about a majority of less than 1% of the world population directing the whole planet. Explain the world without mentioning jews. How do you do it? You can't. Nothing makes sense unless you address their influence on the world.

>>15901357
How can you say something so stupid unless you know absolutely nothing about history or cultures, let alone white culture.

>>15901306
Okay, just tell me how faggot. Describe, in even the most basic manner, how a "stateless society" would draft, formalize, and enforce environmental regulation. I can tell you the ecofascism answer of the top of my head. Teams of radical right wing death squads imprison or eliminate all those who disobey the dictates of the tyrant. Ez pz. Shitskins, gone. Oh you littered? 20 years in the iso-cube. You want to send electronic waste overseas? Doesn't work that way. Banned exports. Here is a list of polluting faggots that we do not do business with. Economic protectionism.

>>15901320
>nooo my heckin blackareenos would never spray paint kill whitey or scream kill the whites on livestream
Marxists are pathetic. At least be honest.

>>15900262
Man and Earth - an essay by Ludwig Klages.

>>15901357
>Culture and race are the same thing, so there's no difference
Interesting. How do you explain the fact that 99% of /pol/ are swarthy self-hating wogs?

>>15901376
>Explain the world without mentioning jews. How do you do it?
This is peak mental illness.

>>15900278
Literally all modern green movements descend from Heidegger.

>>15901379
>>nooo my heckin blackareenos would never spray paint kill whitey or scream kill the whites on livestream
It's amazing how much white supremacists have to rely on a cherry picked opposition to justify their ridiculous cause

>>15901370
Keep telling yourself that you are arguing with incels. Stay deluded. Your door will be kicked by armed men who will hang you from a streetlight. Maybe you can convince yourself, in your last moments of agony, that these men are incels and they are "just scapegoating their frustrations at not getting laid"

>>15901393
>a homeland for my people is a ridiculous cause
Have you brought this enlightenment to continents other than North America and Europe?

>>15901379
>Okay, just tell me how faggot.
She literally provided a simple pamphlet for you to absorb. You're on /lit/. Take a few minutes to read the booklet on hand, THEN give your criticisms. Jesus fuck.

>>15900524
>Savitri Devi
Nice.

>>15901406
The world is a lot more international and connected than you would think, absolute isolationism is retarded anyways. Would you want to live in a white people version of North Korea?

>>15901410
Ok faggot. Look at this tripe. You want "direct democracy". Let me fucking guess. Every Juanita and Pablo who walk into my fucking neighborhood get to vote against the traditional structures of the residents of the neighborhood and get to vote the collected wealth and power of those people into their hands. Or do I get to enforce a border? This shit is 170+ pages of anarchist dribble that you faggots always demand someone slog through before a goddamn debate. Just argue right here, on /lit/. Just allow yourself to get btfo in public.

>>15901397
I'm not that guy, but I've interacted and hung out with enough of these guys to know that the incel meme is comically accurate. Anyone who's threatening to kill people on the internet is clearly a coping failure

>>15901433
Holy fucking strawman kid. Just go back to plebbit.

>>15901442
Really because all the videos of anarchists getting knocked the fuck out by proud boys makes the trannies look more the part

>>15901433
>Would you want to live in a white people version of North Korea?
Yes.

>>15901442
>t.

all left prims will be sodomized and skinned. they refuse to work with others and spend time infighting with each other over gender issues. fuck them.

>>15900262
>book reccomendation thread
>/leftypol/ chapo reffugees and discord trannies shit up thread
Every time. Environmentalism is inherently conservative. Leftist "environmentalism" consists in maximizing the exploitation of nature and it's resources and rendering said exploitation indefinitely sustainable. Conservative environmentalism is primal.

>>15901454
>black people are violent and that's bad
>muh stronk proudboys chimping out
dumb hick nazis..

>>15901483
wow what a new argument

>>15901486
seething primate

>>15901488
>hating primates in environmentalism thread
Bet you watch monkey hate videos too you fucking tranny freak.

>>15901483
>gets btfo
>immediately resorts to chapocel meme response
By the way here is the dogshit that butterfly recs. 4 pages in and I already hit "that wasn't real communism"

>>15901438
>Every Juanita and Pablo who walk into my fucking neighborhood get to vote
Let me guess -- you are one of those degenerate Scotch-Irish cumguzzlers who thinks he should have a voice on how society works? Newsflash: you don't even have the bloodline to have a voice. Your opinion on how things should "run" is understood tacitly by everyone as pure 100% folly. Stop larping and shut you piehole, loser. Learn some history about your kind then bow your head in shame.

>>15900379
Remember that the first world sends its garbage and factories to poor countries so they can consoom cheap goods and then blames those poor countries for being filled with garbage. Remember that hegemony doesn't last forever.

>>15901501
Indians fill their holy Ganges with plastic, corpses, and feces.

>>15901499
I'm not a tankie, I'm a liberal globohomo advocate
>>15901496
I love how the intellectual right has come to this ultimate conclusion

>>15901499
lmao even the soviets are capitalists to these fuckers. i get the not real communist parts but to say they are capitalists is something else.

>>15901514
It is the right conclusion.

>>15901500
I can trace my lineage 400 years back to Westphalia but I really don't see what point you trying to make. You just sound like an assblasted homo

i know the IRA is not related to environmentalism but there green look is nice.

>>15901514
>liberal globohomo advocate
So why are you in a thread about environmentalism

another cool IRA photo

>>15901528
>You just sound like an assblasted homo
Says the faggot who just drank a quart of jizz. You think those cameras don't work?

>>15901554
I recognize your writing style. You are a thread shitter. Kys.

>>15901544
>>15901551
>IRA
>rightwing
>have more than 100 years history of strong socialist presence
kek. it's an organization of different ideologies you retard

>>15901568
You think I don't see you for what you are?

>>15901571
>the nsdap were left wing because they called themselves socialist
The IRA were nationalist above all else.

>>15901554
>globohomo advocate leftists trans Marxist something something something
>Using implied homosexuality as an insult

>>15901571
The IRA were Catholic race warriors.

Right wing environmentalism doesnt exist outside of the pet politics of maladjusted LARPing suburbanite fascists who think they're too cool for basic bitch nazism.

>>15901571
never said they are right wing. idk whats wrong with these left prims, so toxic it intolerable.

>>15901580
You are literally pathetic. Just stop.

>>15901581
>there can only be a single dimension of political difference!!
Lol. Good luck with that, Einstein.

>>15901600
said the nigger who sperged over an IRA photo. socialist and muh right wing.

>>15901593
>faggot who buys organic at wholefoods calling actual innawoods log cabin ecofash a larp
Guarantee you haven't even seen a naturally grown tree in real life.

>>15901591
>were
Fuck off, IQ-deprived trumpcuck

>>15901581
their nationalism is a mere struggle against British colonialism and nothing more than that.
many communists still support their cause

https://youtu.be/SuAUcaTE0Do

>>15901608
The IRA has no significant presence anymore. Speaking of the IRA in present tense is like speaking about Prussia in present tense.

>>15900262
>What right-wing environmentalist
They're still grappling with the stunning realization that the regions of the earth Earth shares an atmosphere and seas beyond political borders
It's fundamentally not a serious political position

>>15901610
>many communists have co-opted their cause
ftfy

>>15901610
ok and?

>>15901607
"Rightwinger" and "environmentalist" are exact antonyms. Cope.

>>15901614
Fuck off, libfag britcuck.

>>15901622
>saying something enough times makes it true
The eternal leftoid cope.

>noooo this is right wing nooooo this is lefy noo oxymoron
>this is not real communism
>this is capitalism
>markets and money
left environmentalist have nothing to do with environmentalism

>>15901607
It's a LARP, and an ironic one considering nobody would be an "eco fascist" without computer screen poisoning.
>>15901622
you seem confused anon, are you new?

>>15901619
cope harder

>>15901620
that they are not nationalist in right wing terms

How 'bout that environment, huh fellas?

I would have thought a love of nature would bring us all together, but apparently some people are really scared of the idea that ebil nazis care about its preservation.

>>15901627
>libfag britcuck
I support the IRAs past actions during their active years. They no longer exist as a current movement.

>>15901628
Provide a counterexample, EarthRapist. Or STFU.

>>15901632
>doing things unironically in real life and committing to your beliefs is a larp and done ironically

>>15901633
>that they are not nationalist in right wing terms
ok, i posted them because of there green look, pls leave fuck off i will rape my dad now.

>>15901639

>>15901474

>>15901581
The nationalism of the IRA was a struggle against British imperialism, rather than the cheap, farcical racial mysticism of the Nazis.

>>15901639
The Nazis you niggerbrained faggot

Ireland for the Irish

>>15901474
>what is anarcho-primitivism

>>15901639
>lives in metropolitan cement shithole
>accuses rural conservatives of raping the earth
Before you lie about not living in a city, leftists are statistically non-existent in rural areas.

>>15901657
Seems to be a bunch of twinks eating out of restaurant dumpsters who can't properly take care of vegetation on their own.

thats it. there is no hope for primitivism or any other ideology against the elite. be it communism or whatever. these leftists start shit over the most little thing because "its not this" and "its actually that" we will be enslaved with nothing organized enough to combat it, my only hope is a collapse.

>>15901649
>The Holy Roman Empire is a farcical myth
By Jove the retardation levels are outrageous

>>15901660
Have you taken your fentanyl today?

>>15901664
cope harder
>also what is communalism

>>15901675
>Now we mock the workers!
Keep up the fire arguments comrade

>>15900262
Read Laudato Si, and realize that the only way forward from the wreck of the modern world has always been an embrace of Jesus Christ.

>>15901676
Number 2 sounds pretty rad ngl

>>15901671
How are your alternatives not slavery?

>>15901671
Leftoids obsess over interpretation and vague conceptualization, when it's in fact, all just disease stemming from the advent of procedure that serves primarily to divorce the mind from reality.

>>15901675
>fentanyl
>2h drive from the nearest city
lmao enjoy all the homeless diarrhea

>>15901687
>all just disease stemming from the advent of procedure that serves primarily to divorce the mind from reality
Your paranoid schizophrenic interpretation of reality isn't objective ontological reality

>>15901686
>Slavery is any system in which principles of property law are applied to people, allowing individuals to own, buy and sell other individuals, as a de jure form of property. An enslaved person is unable to withdraw unilaterally from such an arrangement and works without remuneration.
This is, by definition, not an inherent part of capitalism.

>>15901676
Communalism is conservative by definition.

>>15901660
Are there any arcade bars in the countryside?

>>15901694
The schedule and it's consequences has been a disaster for the human race.

>>15901677
Most production moved overseas, ag is mostly done by mexican slaves in california. Flyovers are mostly decaying opiate riddled shitholes, who cares?

>>15901698
>arcade bars
gross

>>15901703
>Who cares?
Tranny final form.

i think killing leftist prims will help the cause more than killing technophiles

>>15901323
imagine thinking that all that constitutes being "right wing" is nationalism

>>15901711
Leftist prims are just drug-addled degenerate perverts so yes, it would be a step in right direction.

>>15901264
this will happen regardless who you vote for because capitalist liberalism operates inspite of the charade that is democracy
its presidencies and given offices are outlasted by the permanent bureaucracy of civil service/intelligence and the various capital power centres
Bernie wouldn't be able to solve this either

>>15901707
If I had guns and pharma companies were pumping my communities with drugs in order to control the population I would do anything but just let it happen lol.

>>15900272
>be retarded middle aged femcel on 4chan
>tripfag for attention and be notorious faggot with shit communist opinions
>try to condescend others about IDpol spooks

>>15901722
This. Progress is a commodity to be bought and sold. It will exploit any and all resources under the pretense of "progress for the human race".

>>15901727
Pretty sure this one's the foreign tranny butterfly too.

>>15901726
Where do you live that isn't pumped with pharma chems? Are you really /noguns/? Yeesh.

>>15900290
yes.

>>15901727

>>15901731
It's not a pretense, technology has objectively raised the standard of living and made peoples lives better. All biological reality is the same substance, human imagination is God's imagination deal with it

>>15900378
fucking based

>>15900290
The problem with you faggots is you always over complicate everything with faggy bullshit to try and seem like intellectuals.

>>15901746

>>15901752
>you faggots is you always over complicate everything with faggy bullshit
This is 4chans high IQ board everybody

>>15901748
>technology has objectively raised the standard of living and made peoples lives better
>my life is better because I get to collect funko pops with my barely livable salary
Technology has objectively reduced the value of human life and made people's lives infinitely worse.

>>15901758
Yes. You have to go back pseud.

>>15901758
no. primitives should focus on the cause and support environmentalists no matter what. you always focus on petty shit instead of the real goal.

>>15901762
>muh funko pops
Is this really your argument against modern innovations and technology?
>Technology has objectively reduced the value of human life and made people's lives infinitely worse.
How? This value judgement only exists in your head, while on the other hand there are real tangible benefits to peoples lives from modern technology.

>>15901758
>be leftist environmentalist
>write thesis on the rape of flowers by pollen
>complain about conservatives calling it out as faggy bullshit

>>15901722
Oh, for fuck's sake. I'm no fan of Biden, but Trump in a second term will obviously accelerate the concentration of wealth to the top 0.01% much faster than ole drag-heals Biden. Workers earning in the $50k to $250k range will of course get fucked either way, but under Trump-Term-2 such humble paycheck-receivers will obviously be completely crushed by Capital. Dumbfuck zoomers don't seem to grasp what's ahead of them. But whatever.

>>15901775
Read Ellul, read Kaczynski, read Skrbina, read Evola, read Devi, read Rostand.

>>15901783
the flowers never consented to be penetrated by bees

>>15900262
>no Kaczynski
>no Ellul
The state of /lit/ is abysmal. I know you LARPers only pretend to read, but I thought you'd at least know some authors.

For those of you who are here in sincerity and genuinely seek answers, go and find "The Industrial Society and Its Future" and "The Technological Society"

>>15901798
Based. Just mentioned them here >>15901795

>>15901795
LARPY romanticized bullshit. I understand the concept of not shitting where you eat, but technology itself is a natural an extension of evolution.

>>15901788
>muh trump
>muh biden
Holy fuck, who cares? In my entire life I've never seen a president do anything but suck jewish cock.

>>15901806
You have not read anything from any of these authors.

>>15901817
I'll drink from your skull.

>>15901806
>romanticized
>Ellul
Yeah you don't even know who any of these people are. Checks out.

>>15901807
The problem is: the masses are confused. Vote for the lesser evil, but meanwhile promote your side of the relevant issue and conjoin yourself with allies as appropriate. Keep an open mind. Also, take note that this all began much more than five thousand years ago.

>>15901854
>Vote for the lesser evil
>Vote for the same nothingness
ftfy

>>15901867
There's a small difference.

>>15901854
>Vote for the lesser evil,
There isn't one. It's the same shit. And if a candidate can get your vote by being "not as bad as that guy" how can you expect to enact any change? You have to withhold your vote from people who don't serve you.

>>15901883
There is no difference at all. They might as well keep the whole thing behind closed doors. Everything public is theater.

>Implying environmentalism is exclusively left or right wing

>>15901892
Correct. It's third position.

>>15901892
Nice monkey

>>15901892
I would be more interested in futurist environmentalism. The entire technology bad thing is pretty unimaginative

>>15901890
>Everything public is theater.
Exactly. Elections are a headcount of people who are still watching the show. They want us to watch the show, because if we're not watching them we're something else.

>>15901899
>futurist environmentalism
>>15901474
Leftist "environmentalism" consists in maximizing the exploitation of nature and it's resources and rendering said exploitation indefinitely sustainable.

>>15901902
>>15901890
I think people over exaggerate how controlled everything is.

>>15901906
If anything it's understated.

>>15901899
>muh consoomer environmentalism
Go fuck a wholefoods you fucking granola.

>>15901889
>There isn't one. It's the same shit.
>>15901890
>There is no difference at all.
What makes you say that?

>And if a candidate can get your vote by being "not as bad as that guy" how can you expect to enact any change?
Incrementally? Or is it all or nothing with you? Obviously no change will happen peacefully in Western society except incrementally.

>They might as well keep the whole thing behind closed doors. Everything public is theater.
Indeed -- the US government is obviously a plutocracy, not even remotely a democracy. Still, making enough noise will make the ruling class take notice. The blacks and the queers understand this elementary principle, so why can't you?

>>15901919
>muh consoomer
What the fuck isn't consuming? I get the idea that this entire line of thought is about annihilating consciousness.

>>15901930
The media constantly portrays pro-white activism as anuddah shoah and it's insanely difficult to gather grassroots support while being economically deplatformed.

>>15901906
The has never been a point in history where democratic elections weren't for show.The creation of the United States itself happened in opposition to the Articles of the Confederation which required that representatives from every state be party to changes that would effect the whole confederacy, but the richest man in the country (George Washington) and his clingers-on went ahead anyway.

And prior to that settlements in the Americas were largely populated with people kidnapped or sold into servitude for the profit of capitalist enterprises. Freedom is a joke, which is why it's such a heavily forced meme.

>>15900262
how to eat shit

>>15901951
>The media constantly portrays pro-white activism as anuddah shoah
Maybe there's some truth to the media portrayal of white supremacists. White supremacists are vile people most of the time.

>>15901956
thats how it feels being a primitivist among leftprims

>>15901957
>pro-white
>White supremacists
Fuck off, jew

>>15901961
Isn't eating playing with feces a part of the non degenerate primitive human experience?

>>15901963
anyone who calls themselves pro-white is more than likely a white supremacist

>>15901965
yeah but it gets overwhelming after a while.

>>15901931
Consumerism is rapacious hedonism and mirrors the behavior of addicts. It is about the annihilation of consciousness and the individual. In a consumerist society you are just another economic unit. You don't need all this frivolous bullshit, and most of it was bought on impulse. Consumerism actively works to reduce self control.

>>15901967
>anyone who doesn't want the white race to go extinct is a white supremacist

>>15901969
Self control to what exactly? Why is consuming bad? Couldn't you just as easily say that existence itself is an addiction?

>>15901973
>why is it bad to dedicate your entire life to masturbatory acts
filtered

>>15901973
>Couldn't you just as easily say that existence itself is an addiction?

>>15901972
People who constantly rave about how they don't want whites to go extinct are always rabid white supremacists. It's always following by some garbled bullshit about how the existence of nonwhites is white genocide

>>15901984
no one cares. i fuck people like you in the ass.

>>15901967
You niggers always repeat the same tired arguments. Wanting to live in an ethnically homogenous nation with people who share your cultural values is not supremacy. Why do you not refer to any non-white nation's as supremacist? You are a dichotomous brainlet.

>>15901979
Why is biological existence not masturbatory? Can't answer? Buddhists would make this argument, but at least they're logically coherent

>>15901984
>actually believing this meme
You've never met a "white supremacist" in your life.

>>15901987
I really doubt you're fucking anyone in general

>>15901989
>Why is biological existence not masturbatory?

>>15901989
Why? Why this? Why that? That's all you faggots know to do, beg the question. Low impulse control is one of the primary traits of the narcissist.

>>15901994
im fucking this guy currently

>>15901998
>>15901996
Can't answer?

>>15901994
Once again, you have unsurprisingly failed to make an argument.

>>15902001
>if I ask a bunch of stupid questions without actually addressing anything and I rightly don't get an answer I win
You haven't addressed any of my statements so I have no reason to answer your loaded questions.

>>15902006
There was no argument to begin with you doofus

>>15902001
You fucking retarded fuckstick faggot nigger shithole. You make a claim and then argue your case.
>How is life not masterbation
Is not a fucking claim you peabrained fuck

>>15902001
yes. i don't know anything about esoteric masturbationism

>>15902009
Are you really that narrow minded that you haven't thought about this?

>>15902010
Cool go back to /pol/ then loser

i hate this life

>>15902010
You claimed that pro-white politics were inherently white supremacist, no?

ecofash

>>15901931
>>15901973
>>15901989
>>15902001
>>15902017
Look at this. Everything structured as a question. They always argue like this because people know that get tired of their shit and quit replying to them. They then declare themselves victorious. This type of "argument" is disingenuous and done in complete bad faith. Anyone who attempts to argue in questions, should not be addressed.

>>15902022
Fuck. I really miss this guy bro. I wish I could have met him and sat down for a chat with him. Rest in peace godspawn. Grace be with you always.

>>15902017
You still have not addressed anything I've said from my original post, or any of my posts so far.

>>15902033
It's plebbit season. /leftypol/ thinks this board is a fucking military objective in their meme war. They should pass like stool eventually. Hopefully.

>>15902034
Was in some livestreams. Guy was super cool. Sucks that all these shitheads meme the schizophrenia angle so hard because the guy was very smart and pretty aware of his situation.

>>15902033
You can't argue without questioning what you're arguing against. Argument isn't just asserting statements, it involves being able to defend the premises of your positions

>>15902048
If you reply with nothing but loaded questions in an attempt to redirect the conversation without actually addressing any points with your own statements you are acting in bad faith.

>>15902033
fucking true. they ignore the core problem which is industrial life and what is its effects and focus on how life is masturbation.

>>15902033
screencapped for when these faggots predictably do this shit again

>>15902039
I did, you assumed that consuming is bad and masturbatory and I pointed out that the same logic can be taken further and applied to biological existence itself. If consuming and masturbatory acts are wrong in your opinion, why do you continue to exist? Existence itself is masturbatory, you don't need to exist.

>>15902062
screencapped for your cringe folder?

>>15902063
>and so on and so forth

>>15902063
>I pointed out that the same logic can be taken further and applied to biological existence itself
No you didn't, you posed the question : Couldn't you just as easily say that existence itself is an addiction? Without actually making any statements as to why you could say this.
You could not, just as easily say that existence itself is an addiction. Existence is total baseline. To tarnish yourself by abusing your body for endorphins and dopamine is not comparable whatsoever.

>>15902079
Still can't answer? I thought this was a thinking board, but apparently it's a mouth breather board.

>>15902063
>blah blah blah more questions question mark question mark ??? ? question mark

>>15902088
if this is a thinking board but apparently a moth breather board why must we think about issues when the one important issue is mouth breathing? and so on and so forth.

>>15902088
Here it comes boy self declaration of victory for those bonus dopamine hits.

>>15902099
>questions bad
>making me think bad
No wonder you're a primitivist

>>15902047
That made me realize that a man sharp enough to deduce the level of terror in this world will be assaulted by cries of "schizo" and such nonsense. It's a terrible crime that the midwits have been given a voice. I do mourn for Terry. Anon said he went driving around looking for him all night when he came up missing. That one hit me kinda hard. That is the fate of a martyr I suppose. He will not be forgotten.

>>15902088
if you can't answer this >>15902102 you are a mouthbreather

>>15902107
It doesn't make anyone think you fucking retard. It's a deceptive tactic as outlined by >>15902033

>>15902086
Again how is dualistic material existence not comparable to a dopamine hit? Why does consciousness need to emerge if non being is self sufficient? The most natural state state is the primordial stillness.

>>15902115
I'm not using any tactics I asked you an honest question on which your assumptions are rooted, and apparently you're too ass retarded to even come up with any reply.

>>15902118
>Again how is dualistic material existence not comparable to a dopamine hit?
>Again
As if this question was posed in the first place.
> Why does consciousness need to emerge if non being is self sufficient?
Totally unrelated question who's only purpose is to derail the argument.
>The most natural state state is the primordial stillness.
I am arguing in favor to the primordial behavior of man as opposed to the narcissistic behavior of modern man.
If you pose any more questions in your next reply, I will not be responding to it. Make a statement, or don't bother posting at all.

>>15902118
>how is dualistic material existence not comparable to a dopamine hit
Dopamine is a chemical in the brain. Existence is the perception of chronological progression as per our perception. Boom ez.
>Why does consciousness need to emerge
This question doesn't make sense.

>>15902124
Feigning ignorance does nothing. This is deceptive narcissistic behavior. Anyone with even surface understanding on the subject can tell.

>>15902133
>I am arguing in favor to the primordial behavior of man as opposed to the narcissistic behavior of modern man.
So you're essentially arguing for the suppression of consciousness. Realize that all existence is dependent upon desire, the void is completely self sufficient and needs nothing outside of itself. The reason to exist is for fun, it's inherently masturbatory play to fight for your survival, socialize, build worlds, ect. People who want to exist while being prudes are in a state of deep delusion.

>>15902193
>So you're essentially arguing for the suppression of consciousness.
I am not. The current state of man is far less conscious, lacks self control and discipline, and relies on operant behavior more and more every passing day.
>all existence is dependent upon desire
It isn't.
>The reason to exist is for fun, it's inherently masturbatory play to fight for your survival, socialize, build worlds, ect
Self sacrifice and toil is not "fun" neither is it masturbatory.

It's no wonder you've had to obfuscate this whole time with questions, you've nothing to say of any substance.

>>15900455
>first one
1/10^10000000000 chance of happening
>second
Slightly more possible

>>15902109
What he ends his last video on is pretty heavy.
>Well, feels good to be king haha... Maybe... I think maybe I'm just like a little bizarre little person who walks back and forth. Whatever.

>>15900455
>Left-wing environmentalism: Political theatre
>Right-wing environmentalism: Action
Checks out.

>>15901806
>natural extension of evolution
Which is exactly what Skrbina says. Yet that doesn’t mean we *need* to do it. That’s a value judgement

>>15900262
linkola quite obviously

>>15900271
Third position will never be right wing. It amounts to applied liberalism

>>15900810
No, but your logo it still about the same thing, over and over again.
>>15900857
So you want a natsoc Capitalism, a natsoc exchange value, a natsoc market, natsoc money, and natsoc wage labor. What a rebel! My hands are shaking just thinking how revolutionary, how life changing that must be. The world would be completely different, r-right? Can i have the nice Hugo Boss outfit?

(...)
Please, can i have the nice Hugo Boss outfit? I'll pay for it, with the money i earned from my wage, working for a great nationalist company.