/lit/ - Literature

>>15889635
but he didn't say everything.

Celts are retarded.

The reason your weekly raid attempt fails is that you get butthurt when people mock or disagree with you in whatever thread you make, and then for some reason you make ten more, all increasingly petulant and effeminate in tone like this one.

Generally if you want to astroturf in a community, you don't begin by broadcasting that you're an outsider to that community in the most faggoty way possible.

>>15889661
Lol cope

>>15889664
there was a poll on marx yesterday and it showed more people liking marx than disliking if you mean this is some kind of /leftypol/ invade

>>15889635
Every time I bother to write a proper refutation to one of these threads you people ignore it or just give me meme answers. There are a number of Marxist intellectuals who I genuinely respect, but the average socialist is just as dogmatic and unthinking as those who they criticize.

>>15889635
Read The Road to Serfdom and shut your dumb mouth.

Marx was a dumb ass. Despite class’ existing and corporations infiltrating politics Marx systems would still cause far more catastrophe and suffering than America’s current implementation of capitalism

>>15890305
>Read The Road to Serfdom
That craps already been refuted

>>15889635
He got BTFO in a Greek comedy 2000 years ago lmaooo

>>15889866
lol nobody here likes marx. We all think you're an astroturfing basedboy with no fucking job who just spends his time pushing marxism because he thinks it'll result in neetbux.

Seriously, every marxist I've ever met was a faggy ineffectual piece of shit who doesn't want to work or try and reads Harry Potter twice per year. Literally kill yourself.

>>15890577
>lol nobody here likes marx. We all think you're an astroturfing basedboy with no fucking job who just spends his time pushing marxism because he thinks it'll result in neetbux.
>Seriously, every marxist I've ever met was a faggy ineffectual piece of shit who doesn't want to work or try and reads Harry Potter twice per year. Literally kill yourself.

I’m a conservative and I think Marx is brilliant. Only dogmatists who haven’t actually read his work dismiss him out of hand. He was far ahead of his contemporaries and correct about most of the flaws he identified in capitalism.

>>15890305
>Read the Road to Serfdom

lol

>>15890577
Checked
>inb4 those arent real marxists
It always amazes me how marxists have this tendency to purity spiral to the most minute possible detail.

>>15890641
>I’m a conservative
lol sure you are. Post a picture of your deathly hollows tattoo.

When nationalism really takes off I hope they kill you last so you can watch your faggot friends get lined up one by one.

>>15890577
Seethe harder brainlet

>>15890641
Are you one of those crpyto trotskyite neocons

>>15890641
>conservative
Well you share a common heritage with Marx, Trotsky

>>15889661
>remaining Celtic peoples literally spend all their time whining about other Europeans
You’re right
>>15889635
Many of his critiques were good but his solutions and dogma are retarded, unrealistic, and against human nature.

>>15890668
It doesn't take a big brain to see that allocating all resources equally is doomed for failure. Commie kikes know they're useless and demand money from the government. Your revolution won't happy because your pussy friends can't even lift guns, let alone fire them.

When you attempt revolution I'll gladly put a bullet in your retarded fucking skull.

>>15890641
flaw are neets out of job market.

>>15890577
Faggot you paste the same retarded reply on every thread about marx.

>>15890577
I like Marx but I'm right wing. You can agree with most of what Marx says if you are anti-capitalist and conservative.

Marx would unironically have been a Nazi if he had lived to see them.

>>15890682
>>15890670
>>15890659
> lol sure you are. Post a picture of your deathly hollows tattoo

pic related

>>15890707
This is the first time I've engaged in these threads, genius. I'm not sure if your reading comprehension is shit or if you just can't get it into your thick fucking skull that all the people who don't like Marx don't like it for the same fucking reason.

You've got a nigger philosophy and the world would be better off without you.

>>15890577
>Seriously, every marxist I've ever met was a faggy ineffectual piece of shit who doesn't want to work or try and reads Harry Potter twice per year
The kinds of people who claim to follow Marx have no bearing on the validity of his thought you incoherent cum-graggler

>>15890740
You really think you proved something

>>15890735
anti-capitalist is for leftist faggots. Work hard if you want shit. If you can't work hard then kill yourself because things won't be easier in the future. Even if your dipshit friends win you'll starve.

>>15890740
>a bunch of unread books
Wow I'm really impressed.

>>15890748
Marx was an unemployed piece of shit who would be a fat fucking sissy in 2020, gag harder on his dead retarded cock.

>>15890748
>thats not real Marxism
Like clockwork

>>15890745
>people who don't like Marx don't like it for the same fucking reason
Because either they're retarded or haven't read marx or both

>>15889635
primary hoax of marx: he hid the root of the problem. root of the problem is not that means of production belong to greedy men, but is the fact that means of production were invented and created, and freed from manual labour a lot of people, who became jobless, and value of their lives became negative.

lets say one tractor replaces 10 peasants. Ford shipped to russia 200k tractors by 1934. 2 mln peasants became obsolete. now include into the count family members of hard nonworking peasants. now you have an idea why hitler, stalin, mao did nothing wrong. but the real root of the problem were stupid vaginas who created new people in times of wars, of job markets shrinking. marx made you blind, people.

>>15890770
yeah? What do they get wrong?

>>15890758
I never claimed that's not really Marxism cum-brain but the type of people who but the character of people who identify as Marxist doesn't negate the fact he was right
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

>>15890458
>Professor of Economics at Tacoma Community College
>soi beard
>soi face

yep it's full on leftist economics

>>15890820
Not an argument

>>15890812
>i never said it isnt real marxism
>i said its people who practice a type of marxism that isnt real

>>15890751
>If you can't work hard then kill yourself
Get anally raped by your boss has really gotten your head

>>15890849
I specifically mentioned that their character has no bearing on the the validity of their political ideology even if a tranny followed marx he who be correct as far as politics/economics are considered. How much more do i have to dumb it down for you faggot. Either you lack the cognitive ability to understand a basic sentence or you're you have no argument other than "ooga booga gommie say it not real marxism haha owned"

>>15890888
I think the fact that real marxism has never been achieved points to its validity
>we'll get it right this time!

>>15890906

>>15890906
>>we'll get it right this time!

>>15890906
>real marxism has never been achieved points to its validity
Failed implementation doesn't negate the validity of the idea. Seethe harder brainlet.

I find that Marxists (and myriad other leftists) are internet pornography addicts. What's the deal with that?

>>15890856
My boss pays me over six figures for less than 40 hours of work a week. With that kind of treatment why wouldn't I support him? I don't even care how much money he gets for my work.

>>15890888
Nobody who supports marx ever tries to posit individual points he made, just trying to slide me into reading his bullshit. If his points were so good and unrelated to commie bullshit, how come they never get used?

Use an irrefutable marxist argument or statement. Do it right now.

>>15889635
>Doesn't address inefficiencies/inaccuracies of central government lagged price-setting, leading to supply/demand problems, black markets, wasted goods, and death.
It's a tale as old as time. The lack of quantitative data was also embarrassing.

>>15890946
>this time it'll work, promise!
kek good b8

>>15890698
>allocating all resources equally
Marx never advocated equal distribution. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
>>15890698
>Your revolution won't happy because your pussy friends can't even lift guns, let alone fire them.
Yeah i guess Castro and Lenin politely asked the ruling elite to step down.

>>15889866
Most people posted indifferent.
We recognize that capitalism isn't enough but that Marx isn't the way forward for 21st century problems.
Nazbol gang.

>>15890999
Even if the implementation fails again doesn't change the fact Marx was right. Keeping coping

>>15891013
lol 300-100 years ago is an entirely different time from today. The leftists today are skinny armed bitch-boys with no work ethic. If you don't get benefit based on your work or contribution then there's no reason to work hard. How many times you gotta learn this lesson?

>>15890978
>trying to slide me into reading his bullshit.
People telling you to read? On /lit/? My God, what has this board come to.

>>15891036
Right about what? You still haven't named a point.

>>15891036
See >>15890987
You wanna argue for particular socialist policies? You may have a shot. But the sad thing is, communism has been quantitatively disproved over and over and over again for decades.

>>15891043
>dude he was totally right about everything
>no I'm not going to say what he was right about you're gonna need to read a bunch of bullshit to find out
>oh you read it and he wasn't right?
>lol he didn't actually say that read it again
>no I won't argue you
Fuck yourself moron.

>>15890659
Nationalism will never take off again. If you think it will, you live in a fantasy world.

>>15891047
Contradictions in capitalism

>>15891072
Oh, you mean the most successful governance style in human history? It won't work again but some collectivist bullshit that always fails is gonna take off? Tell me more.

>>15891080
Like what? What contradiction does capitalism have?

>>15891065
>you're gonna need to read a bunch of bullshit to find out
t.brainlet seething at the thought of any mental effort. Apparently the right can't read

>>15891110
Read what? If you can't name a point then you either didn't read it or didn't understand it? I don't read his manifesto because his points are echo'd by dumbshits around the world,

>>15891096
>Oh, you mean the most successful governance style in human history? It won't work again
Global capital has made nation states it's bitch. Nationalism will be stomped out anywhere it rears its head by the forces of neoliberalism

>>15891113
>I don't read his manifesto
The fact that you don't read or more likely are incapable of reading was clear from the start. Sadly there's no cure for being a braindead troglodyte

>>15891136
>Nationalism will be stomped out anywhere it rears its head by the forces of neoliberalism

>>15891060
> But the sad thing is, communism has been quantitatively disproved over and over and over again for decades.

muh empiricism

>>15891096
>the most successful governance style in history
>lead to two world wars with a decade of one another, millions dead

you’re so retarded dude

>>15891154
Keeping coping faggot but that won't change the fact that the ideology you're shill is dead and never coming back

>>15890946
>implementation
Of all the marxist movements, figures, and leaders not a single one has been a "real marxist." Except you of course.
Why is this?

>>15890458
zero books zero looks

>>15891036
Maybe Marx had some fair criticisms of English style industrialism in the 19th century, but everything other than that is retarded. Especially historical materialism and his eschatology.

>>15891152
lol I've read the notes online, heard lectures on it and argued with plenty of you brainless NPCs. I probably know it better than you do after a wiki read.

Oh, and I majored in Economics.

>>15891179
>>15891136
Lol neoliberalism doesn't do anything. If the state's governance close their borders then the "global elites" get to spend all their cash in botswana or some shit place with no resources and retarded people.

Did communism not lead to millions starving and a bunch of genocides? Also all the people who are good at anything leave lmao.

>>15891181
>Coping
How does it feel to know your ideology is gradually losing the public's faith as we speak?

>>15891248
But i thought memebers of the public arent real Marxists

>>15891248
You mean growing in power? How about that Polish election you pigfucking retard? Even with Hollywood and all the kikes you could want you lose again and again.

>Poland
As if anything that happens in that eastern European shit has any global consequences

>>15891225
>read the notes online
I bet you feel like a big brain wojak reading material intended to help school children with homework

>>15891225
>"If the state's governance close their borders then the "global elites""
>Shills capitalism
>wants the state to intervene

>>15891225
>If the state's governance close their borders then the "global elites" get to spend all their cash in botswana
The only state capable of that is China

>>15891323
lol You're not positing a point about anything. You resulted to ad-hominem and have still avoided making any solid arguments because you know you'd get dunked on. Sad!

>>15891334
Capitalism relies on a state, genius.

>>15891346
Or, you know, everyone else. Many famous economists have turned as we've realized the damages of widespread globalism.

>>15891164
Good troll until this post.

>>15891225
>Oh, and I majored in Economics.

Congratulations, me too. The last recourse of the truly ignorant is appealing to their own authority as someone with an undergraduate degree in something.

I’m not talking about communism, you’re the one claiming nationalism is “the most successful governance style in history” when it lead to thirty year period of mass civilizational collapse comprising millions of deaths and culminating in the development and deployment of two atomic bombs. You have yet to substantiate this claim.

>>15891359
>resulted to ad-hominem
Tell your dad to buy you a book on basic grammar for your 14th birthday

>>15891401
Why exactly is war something that detracts from success? If I am not mistaken, most nationalism is militaristic and extols the virute of war. I've seen ultra nationalists criticize desires for peace as decadent.
>He who does not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle does not deserve to live

>>15891414
>grammar mistake
Lol the fruit just gets lower and lower with you doesn't it? Extremely pathetic.

>>15891474
>the fruit just gets lower and lower with you doesn't it?
I can't help it if all you're capable of is providing low hanging fruit.

>>15889635
>btfos dialectical materialism

>>15889635
I don't read genocidal maniacs or their cult members because I assume what they have to say is as anti-human as they are themselves.

>>15890972
damn, that's pretty cool

>>15890458
“Been refeuted”

Ok Everything he has said has come to pass to a T. Even his criticisms against capitalism in the west.

>>15890458
He never denies that capitalism can turn into a shit show, there is nothing to refute. He said the same stuff.

>>15890458
Did that guy even read road to serfdom? One key thing Hayek talks about is that corporations can fuck shit up too if left unchecked. Not sure why anything he said needed to get “refuted”, he said it himself.

>>15890931
You can’t be this fucking retarded right?

Read Hayek, Mises, Friedman, Rothbard, Williams, Sowell et al. Marx is irrelevant.

>>15889635
eagleton is totally based

>>15891224
What the actual fuck is marxist eschatology

>>15893254
utopias and possibly distopias, ie the revolution realized

>chapocels, not real leftism
>breadtube trannies, not real leftism
>hr-department-maoists in blm, not real leftism
>me and my 50 buttbudies at bunkerchan, real leftism, and we finna boutta do the revolution

>>15892521
Capitalcuck lose their shit when you ask them to read Marx but want you to read everyone of their bugmen

>>15892016
>>15892009
Read G.A Cohen

>>15892521
>>15893806
I love how the discussion is always between these two fringe extremist ideologies consisting of kikes and their yesmen while absolutely no one in orthodox economics cares about any of them other than some segments of Friedman. And no, orthodox economics is not "neoliberal".

>>15890972
>Boss daddy gives me 6 cummies per day, i love my daddy

>>15891065
Lmao this is exactly how internet marxists argue.

>>15893818
Mathematically illiterate /lit/ pseuds BTFO.

>>15893818
>orthodox economics
Already been refuted

>>15889664
> effeminate

I bet you look like a girl

>>15890305

Cringe

>>15890577
i haven't read marx yet
>We
speak for yourself faggot

>>15889635
Commie friend picked this up and then later said he's having trouble getting through it because he's not used to reading. I started it to know what he was learning but I dropped it because it was absolute dogshit.