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Has there ever in history been a philosopher king?

>> No.15886287

Charlemagne

>> No.15886286

>>15886280
Has there ever in the history of /lit/ been a man who realizes Plato wasn’t describing an actual republic?

>> No.15886294
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>>15886280
Akhenaten

>> No.15886299

Marcus Aurelius, the book he wrote is on the /lit/ and /pol/ approved reading list dork.

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>> No.15886391

Who’d want to be the king of a bunch of middlebrow posers?

>> No.15886413

>>15886280
Ashurbanipal
Solomon
Archytas
Pope Gregory I
de Richelieu
Frederick the Great

>> No.15886418

>>15886413
>>15886280
Emperor Taizong

>> No.15886428

>>15886280
You mean virtuous king? or literally a philosopher who is a king. His name is Jesus

>> No.15886440

>>15886280

Note that Plato stresses that the genuine philosopher would never choose to become king.

>> No.15886448

>>15886280

You should read Themistius' letters to Julian. He urges the latter to become a philosopher king, but Julian reproaches him.

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>>15886280
>philosopher king
pic related

>> No.15886461

>>15886287
>>15886294
>>15886299
>>15886413
>>15886418
>>15886428
>>15886440
This is why all these men were either born into their position or appointed to it.

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Katherine of Russia

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>>15886280
Yes.

>> No.15886671 [DELETED] 

>>15886461
because they organically actualize their station in life.

>> No.15886689

>>15886461
because they organically actualize their vocation in life.

>> No.15886690

philosophy contains the supposition that we will never truly have every answer, which is contradictory to the role of royalty. This is why demoracy succeeded it

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>>15886280
Stalin (pbuh)

>> No.15886916

>>15886764
>Wasnt' neither a king or a philosopher

>> No.15886927

>>15886916
Nah he was both

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>>15886927

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>>15886461
I've thought about this kind of thing. Would a king planned from the womb in an Aristocracy end up spoiled and lacking refinement from the lack of adversity and everyday life experience? Or be a Master Chief eugenic paragon? Maybe if they don't have incest this time around. Actually with fancy software and the advent of stuff like 23 and Me DNA tests I think there's alot of potential for a homogeneous utopia, with that CRISPR Gene editing shit shit we can see exponential growth of the white race don't lose hope.

>> No.15887033

>>15886280
Akbar

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>>15886280
the one who actually conquered the known world
at a young age, with Aristotle himself as his tutor

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>>15887019
being White is more than skin pigmintion, it's also in the physiognomy and physique. Why do you think no one would ever mistake an albino Tanzianian for an Englishman or a German or an Irishman?

To your main point, a king planned from the womb is MORE IDEAL to be a philopher king because they are raised to be that. Plato believed in caste, he wasn't some egalitarian meritocrat who thought people needed to "earn" being a philosopher king. They have to FULFILL being a philosopher king. As an aside, I remerber reading about some Southern Italian monarch who was sort of the "ideal" philosopher king of Plato's time, and he almost certainly was born an aristocrat as opposed to making himself one. This should give you an idea of who would qualify.

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>>15887111
Frederick the Second?