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Number 4 after me

Heidegger.

btw.

Read Heidegger.

>>15841609
>Is he officially considered no.3 after Plato and Aristotle?
Yes, pretty much

>>15841626
no. just because you just read heidegger doesnt make him #3. hes influential and i really apreciate him, but Kant was a much bigger and more widely effecting personage in the genealogical feild of thought.

>>15841609
>>15841626
>>15841661
Would Heidegger be five(considering this anon >>15841623 as 3)?

1. Plato
2. Aristotle
3. Kant
4. Plotinus
5. Heidegger
6. Aquinas
7. Hegel
8. Descartes
9. Nietzsche
10. Augustine or Wittgenstein
This is Objectively correct

>>15841685
>4. Plotinus
Well this is just stupid. The neoplatonists are overrated by people who haven't read them. You'd be a lot wiser to put Heidegger there. Everything else seems fine, except for Wittgenstein being on the list. I know he's brilliant, but it feels like putting Spinoza on there, he's just too separate and isolated from philosophy as it is to be there.

>>15841685
Hegel after Kant no contest.

>>15841821
I did think that myself, but there's an argument that Heidegger should be between Kant and Hegel, considering his relation to them. And furthermore I can understand why the Catholic Hegel would be above Hegel in historic greatness, many seem to undervalue his importance. But ahh yeah It should be Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Heidegger, Hegel, Aquinas and so on. I wonder about Heraclitus though.

>>15841765
Plotinus is the most influential philosopher alongside Aristotle from 200 - 1600 AD. He is very important and has an almost secret influence on all Scholastic thought not to mention that Neoplatonism was the dominant philosophy in Europe from 200-1000. He's also the chief influence of the major Renaissance thinkers in the Florentine School. He's right up there with Aristotle in terms of objective influence on the history of thought and is one of if not the biggest influence on Carolingian Renaissance, Italian Renaissance, OG NP, Orthodox Theology, Scholasticism, Jewish and Islamic Philosophy and Western Mysticism.
I wouldn't mind bumping W for Spinoza desu, also would consider Hume at 10 but it's a tight fit.

>>15841609
Permettimi di presentarmi

>>15841841
Even if these exaggerations were true, Heidegger and Hegel would still rank above him.

1. Aristotle
2. Heidegger
3. Plato
4. Kant
5. Aquinas
6. Hegel

>>15841882
>>15841902
Heidegger is much too recent to be put that high on an objective influence list. While I grant that almost all 20th-21st century Continental thought is indebted to him, its simply not enough to overtake Aquinas, Plato or Kant each of which has seen centuries and centuries of thinkers taking after their respective systems.

>>15841902
>Aristotle above Plato
>Heidegger above Plato and Kant
We should probably acknowledge how much Heidegger got from the East, and he doesn't go up on the list just for synthesising Eastern ideas into his philosophy. And I say that still thinking he's a four.

>>15841912
In the presence of Beethoven, did Europe have to wait and see if he ranked among Mozart or Haydn, or Bach and Handel?

>>15841924
We are talking influence, not how great he is at his craft. He is very influential, and sure, he has the potential to be on par with Kant, but one century simply isn't enough to slap him at number two all time.

>>15841609

1) Shankara
2) Plato
3) Aristotle

>>15841935
Op never said influence anon, and the greatness of a philosopher is obviously determined both by their influence and truth in itself.

Rating philosophers with completely different ideas that I haven't read by arbitrary standards: the thread.