/lit/ - Literature

>OK so modernity sucks
If you’re a fucking faggot

>>15781482
Why are you posting a cover of that book instead of actually reading his works?

>>15781484
Huh?

>>15781484
No, modernity sucks precisely because I'm not a faggot.

> It seems like you'd just be arbitrarily picking "the most based one" like you're trying to pick between different car brands
And you would be right. I am sympathetic to many of the traditionalists, but they have absolutely no framework for deciding such a thing. It is all personal preference. Evola never tells the reader to "convert" to some religion, nor does Guenon, etc.
Schuon just took it to an extreme and mashed up anything he liked and formed his own tariqa.

> What about Western Esotericism,
Guenon supported masonry, but Evola disliked it and said that it lost sight of its original goals and just became a tool for enlightenment reformers, not actually spiritual in its goals.
Good luck finding a "western esoterist" group that isn't boomers, hippies, or schizos, even if you think there is still value in it.

> what to do
Study world religion, read about religious practices for your area/heritage/culture and make a decision from there. The traditionalists are good for providing a framework, but not really solving your personal decisions regarding belief.

just go to church and stop making a big deal about it

>>15781517
Revolt does specifically mention that in order to be a Traditionalist you have to follow a particular tradition in its entirety while also realizing it comes from the primordial Truth. I suppose it just feels different reading it in the 21st century where for the average person you can realize everything they say is right, but you have nowhere to go based off of it. I guess you could join the Catholic Church but even then it seems like it's corrupted by modernity just like everything else.

everything is fake and gay in modernity, whatever you touch becomes fake and gay thru contact with you the modern (see trad caths on twitter), all we can do now is read, study and practice a moral life (the moral precepts in religions are all generally the same). you can and should learn as much as possible about different traditions, learn sanskrit, pali, hebrew, classical chinese, you have more books and resources at your fingertips than the ancients ever had, so go read, but also accept that you will never BE anything, and if you think you are being something, what you're actually being is gay

modernity is pretty based imo

>>15781482
stupid idiot cannot chose what to larp.

>>15781482
>Westerners can't into Hindu because they aren't born into a caste
This is not true anon, this just means you cant be invested with the sacred thread, but there are other initiations in Hinduism such as some of the ones offered in Shaivism which dont have any caste requirements and which are offered freely to foreigners.

>>15781593

Here is an interview with the head of a Veerashaiva temple in Varanasi where he confirms that they offer the same initiations to foreigners that they do for Indians

http://wildyogi.info/en/issue/gauri-interview-shri-chandrashekhar-mahaswamiji-spiritual-teacher-shivaite-tradition

>Some people say, that a foreigner can not truly become a Hinduist, because he does not have the gotra (ancestral lineage); that it is possible to become a hindu only if you were born in an Indian family. However, you give traditional initiation to the foreigners – what is your opinion about this (can a Western man be considered to be Hindu the way the Indian one is considered)? Does a Western receive the same initiation in virashivaism as does an Indian?

>Yes, foreigner receive just the same initiation as Indians do. There are two kinds of traditions in Hinduism – those based on Vedas and those based on Agamas. Vedas and Agamas are equally acknowledged as the sources of sacred knowledge. Both of them originated from God: Vedas are called to be the breathing of God, and Agamas – are his words. Shaiva Agamas are the dialogs of Shiva and Parvati. The system described in Vedas is based on social division (based on varnas: brahmana, kshatriya, vaysha, and shudra). Only men who are representatives of the three varnas (brahmana, kshatriya, and vaysha) qualify for initiation. In Agamas another kind of initiation is described – diksha. This initiation can be received by anyone regardless of gender and social position. In this case, mind condition of a person is important, his aspiration for self-actualization. The teacher watches the student, assesses his level of readiness, and according to this gives him diksha. In Agamas it is said: “Having appraised the level of God energy presence in a person (the devotion of a person) initiation should be given to him.” (“Shaktipatam samalokya dikshaya yojaed amum.”) In this way, in virashivaism and other traditions, based on Agamas, origin and citizenship of a person have no importance.

>>15781482
Judaism is somehow strict and you would have to cutyour foreskin. It's difficult to become a jewish unless you're a woman and marry a jewish man.

Buddhism is gone. What we see now is not traditional real buddhism. Vajrayana is extremely mixed with bön and other tribal religions. Theravada, although is the one that kept the oldest texts from canon buddhism, is not traditional, since Sariputta's abidhamma is a distortion of the principle of annica. Mahayana is the older and related to the original root of buddhism, but suffers from bad chinese translations of the canon. None of them are really the *traditional* buddhism.

Christianism is also gone. Greek orthodox is the closest of original christianity.

Islam was never traditional. It was imposed by herd violence and in origin it's a weird distortion of both judaism and christianism.

Hinduism never existed. There was brahmanism. There was samkhya. There was yoga. There was saktism. There was shaivism. There was bhakti. What you believe to be hinduism is a mix of many ancient traditions, all of which are forever gone.

Traditions are gone. This is why we live in Kali Yuga, which is not an age we live since thousands of years, but a relatively recent happening.

>>15781651
so like uh what do we do scoob? How what does modern man, rejecting modernity, orient himself towards?

>>15781651
If you read any traditionalist you would realize that a tradition never "dies," it just becomes harder and more reclusive.

Buddhism is not gone, Christianity is not gone, etc. You just have to be strict, don't associate with those who will lead you off track, and get a good group of mentors.

>>15781669
sounds like a massive cope

>>15781669
So Paganism isn't dead, it's just reclusive? I'm not being sarcastic I mean if I went into the foothills of some obscure European town would I find people who've had a direct lineage of passing down paganism?

>>15781661
There are possibilities, but they're not directly linked to anything we're seeing currently as traditional. Traditions are gone, but we surely can act regarding ancient wisdom. People live their lives unironically as buddhists, christians, islamic, jewish, hindus, jains, etc. But you can't have contact with the PURE LIGHT (GOD, NIRVANA, MOKSHA etc) throught any text anymore. We must aknowledge our ignorance towards the true traditions of our ancient past and build our civilizations as it's possible from what we know and ultimately reach during our lives.

Can I make my own tradition?

>>15781651
> hinduism is a mix of many ancient traditions, all of which are forever gone.
no they are not lol

>>15781751
What is it about nuclear bombs that seems... pure? Traditional bombs always seem dirty and crude. Fission bombs are like a physical manifestation of Death. I just look at it and feel serene. I imagine it's how a deer feels when it sees an oncoming car and realizes that, no matter what it does next, it's going to die.

>>15781651
This is an extremist take on Evola's departure from the Traditionalist school. The Traditionalist maintained that there were still valid traditions that could transmit initiation in the current age. Evola disagreed but also believed that the rules changed somewhat during the Kali Yuga and that self-initiation was a possibility, and that although valid traditions had come to pass, there were still valid techniques open to the rare few capable of pursuing them to their end. Sort of a backdoor left open during the dark age for when all other paths are blocked. A backdoor without a path that one had to struggle to find their own way to. You can see why Guenon found himself uncomfortable being associated with him as time when on.
Evola described Tantra as being the first example of such a storehouse of traditionalist techniques collect for an age when tradition no longer functioned. He expounds on this at length in Yoga of Power.

>If you read any traditionalist you would realize that a tradition never "dies," it just becomes harder and more reclusive.

Traditions die, but Tradition is timeless. Buddha describes how the Dharma is lost and found endlessly. A path over grown that has to be hacked through by a new Buddha for the new age. For Traditionalists like Guenon abidance to correct doctrine isn't enough. Their primary concern is transmission and initiation. If the line of transmission is broken then that tradition becomes defunct. This cycle is meant to have taken place countless times in this world and others, the traditions we know today are just singular examples of innumerable iterations of Tradition that have and will occur.
The the question is though, if we have reached the point yet where all lines of transmission are broken, and if so is Evola's self-initiation theory about the Kali Yuga having different rules plausible, or are we just fucked?

>>15781482
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O_ftyZ0eb9A

>>15781482
>religion

>>15781498
>>15781509
read orgy of the will fagots

>He doesn't know about the Holy Grail and related traditions.

Hinduism is accessible to westerners. you don't know what you're talking about.

>What about Western Esotericism
You're looking at this all wrong.
You don't just become a "western esotericist" or go to a "western esotericist church"
If you're interest in esotericism look for the esoteric teachings in your given tradition

>>15782192
Suggesting I should convert to catholicism and read Eckhart? :v

>>15781484
This lmao

>>15781484
The only people modernity DOESN'T suck for is faggots

I feel like I am attracted to this idea of tradition because as a young man in America I do not have a strong sense of heritage (if that's the correct term). I don't have very strong beliefs that have been galvanized by any sort of coming-of-age ritual. I don't have a group of people that see me as a real man (and I do not yet see myself as one).

Anyways, why do some of the threads I see on here about tradition jump to religion? Is it because it simply offers a moral code and philosophy that many people have adhered to for generations? Is it maybe just what first comes to mind when people are looking for guidance that extends beyond their own generation?

I want to receive guidance, but I think many people here are desperate for it and I have many doubts that there is anyone who visits this place who has real wisdom to offer.

For now it seems like >>15781570 is the most practical self-guided approach, but really doesn't satisfy the want for knowledge transfer from more experienced individuals.

Maybe at this point we just have to do the work to build our own beliefs and not have them gifted to us.

>>15781762
It's a reach but I'm guessing you have similar thoughts too.

>>15781482
truth is a tangible reality. this is the key to all humour, all great literature, and human life worth living. traditions are precedents established such that humans can be morally ennobled, made into what they are supposed to become-- more than beasts, tending toward god or truth or whatever. small brains can't follow, so they will keep wandering this world. god himself or whatever might show you the truth, but probably not. most people are CATTLE.
>Westerners can't into Hindu because they aren't born into a caste.
you have a misconception. i think you need to see *why* a given tradition is true. *something* needs to be there that isn't merely a construction of language. you feel it, you just fucking know. nobody can sum it up such that somebody who is uninitiated might step on in. it has to be genuine, the quality of your soul must be there.

>>15782284
Good for you

>>15782850
The whole of the western peoples are adapted for a religious traditional form. The religious form, or mode, of experiencing and partaking in a tradition is the only one that the vast majority of westerners are suited for. It's in our blood. Well, not necessarily in your blood and my blood, a minority is well suited for partaking in transcendent knowledge (which is real knowledge) in other ways than in the purely religious one. This is just a fact that we have to deal with. This is why the easterners have a saying that when the West returns to normalcy they (we) will have many kshatriyas but few brahmanas. This is clear as day to anyone who has their eyes open, it's clear to you and me that this is the truth. Just look at the level of agitation that people are currently displaying in the West. Look at the unrest that is bubbling and brewing, look at the past two great conflicts and the destruction that was wrought. Religion and even philosophy is something that only westerners admire, exalt and seem to place above every other mode of interacting with pure knowledge.
Are you looking for guidance or self-help? At a certain point you understand that wisdom is superior to action and that's that, there is no higher level to attain to. Maybe you are also one of those many westerners who feel an irresistible yearning to act, and to be part of a "movement", as westerners so aptly call it.

As for me and those like me (we are many, but not very outspoken), being in a "movement" is a sign of decadence. If a building is moving that is a sign it is surely about to collapse very soon. I take for granted that you are familiar with the Christian parabel of the two men, one of whom built his house on the sand and other on the rock. We want to remain still because we know that we are still. We are not the doer, or the reaper of the rewards of actions, we are the one who bears witness to all these things.

>>15781482
>modernity sucks
Bold claim. Care to back that up?

>>15782978
>>15783016
I have spiritual beliefs, but don't adhere much to any particular religion. I guess I'm looking for ways to better understand why I hold certain values and to be able to articulate them if I want to.

I think a healthy amount of guidance (if that exists) would be helpful, but have a gut feeling that at the end of the day it's just self-help because anything anyone else tells me would be useless if I do not internalize it and incorporate it into my belief system.

>>15783066
What traditional literature have you been reading?

>>15783080
None yet. I wanted to shop the market before I made a time investment, and I feel like I don't really understand the cluster of things that I want to believe in. I'll probably have to read a few things to rule stuff out, which is to say I should probably start now. What would you recommend? Is there any sort of visual map for this sort of thing?

>>15783106
not him but this is excellent

>>15783106
To me, choosing what to read has always been a totally personal thing... There's a book i want to read so i start reading it, and if i don't understand it then i look for a book that can help me understand it. And in that book i find a reference to another book that interests me, so i read that one. I'm sure there's a book, or a tradition, or a person, or a god, on your mind that you've been mulling over and considering finding out more about. Just go for it, look up that author or that tradition and pick a book and start reading and go from there.

>>15783175
Again I don't really have an attraction to religion beyond holding yourself to a higher power as a psychological tactic of adhering to your own morals so I can't really name a god I'm interested in. I like religious stories for the almost mythical or fantastical concepts involved, but that isn't really helpful to me for the kind of growth I'm looking for.

I guess in the immediate time frame I just want books about being a man for your own sake. Then eventually I'll want to know what it means to be a man for your family, and how that may or may not be adopted in a modern world as it interacts with realities socioeconomic like certain areas basically "requiring" a two income household to get by financially or having your wife who is more career-oriented work full time while you stay home and try to teach your children or what it means to provide as a man and if that is even required of you in a very modern setting.

Maybe I'm projecting but this ties back to my first post. I personally crave verbal guidance from my Father or Grandfather but really they grew up in their own times and have lead different lives. What I want is to equip myself with the intelligence to navigate my own life with confidence as currently things just feel too chaotic.

>>15783285
Re-reading I feel like I didn't really close up my point. I'm wondering if my feelings are unique or if all these "trad threads" I've been seeing here stem from similar feelings others have of seeking guidance.

Also, I don't really known any authors besides Evola and Guenon. Maybe I should be looking more into the self-help genre of things if I want direct application of psychology to modern problems? Maybe I'm not even ready to explore philosophy. I'm okay with that, but it's hard to even understand what it is I'm looking for.

>>15782105
Icycalm is a midwit manchild.

>>15783306
>>15783285
I'm sorry to say i can't help you much more, if i had more time i could say something more but i'm going to bed soon. Sounds like you're looking at your near future from the perspective of a traditional householder, which is admirable but i'm just going to warn you by saying this is the Kali Yuga, most marriages will end in divorce unavoidably. People don't "live happily ever after" in the period in which we live.

>>15783420
Sad to hear, but okay anon. Maybe if this thread is still up you can write some more. Any recommendations before you go?

"Besides, one should always bear in mind that, to a large extent, I was
forced to pave my own way. I have never benefited from the invaluable help
which, at a different time and in a different milieu, was granted to those who,
being in touch with a living tradition, wished to accomplish tasks similar to
my own. Like a lost soldier, I have sought to join a departed army by my own
means, often crossing dangerous, treacherous terrain, and only managed to
establish a positive connection at a later date."
-Evola

I gave traditionalism a fair shake and read some of the lit. This is cringe & by any religious metric, a heretical LARP

If you don't actually believe in anything except vague "spirituality," and you kind of think all these religions are interchangeable and common like Guenon does, there is no hope for you

>>15783778
What did you read? And to continue your point what do you suggest instead?

>>15784053
I read Evola's "Revolt" and Guenon's "Crisis" and "Perspectives on Initiation." Both authors are frequently referenced on this board and seemingly always championed by people who are neither well-read nor enjoyable to talk to. The Traditionalist School is basically just an /x/-tier obsession with symbols and the occult in a way that never even comes close to a coherent spiritual outlook. We are apparently supposed to just take these men at their words that triangles are important, or something. Guenon's "spiritism" is total hackery. They seem to agree Masonic imagery is spiritual or powerful in some way, but obviously none of them know exactly how, because it's a LARP.

My point isn't that traditionalists are essentially wrong about the importance of spirituality in an individual or in a society, but that they have a totally disordered theology that they basically make up as they go along. I'm a Catholic; I believe in Catholic teachings. That is a unified perspective. You by no means have to buy into that, but mixing and matching ancient aliens-tier Hindu time theory with Christian mysticism, Daoism and whatever pagan ideas you find coolest isn't a theology. If a life is really supposed to be committed to spiritual study, you should have a cohesive outlook, not one that coyly dodges actual religious questions with deliberately confusing rants about the spirit and the soul.

I guess I would suggest you pick a God or a metaphysics and run with it, not bastardize and pervert legitimate religions because of some crackpot theory you have about their ultimate syncretism

>>15784305
Do you really need a God? Isn't it just about being a Good Person through your actions and deeds and about exploring your own school of thought?

Maybe that sounds like a bunch of hot air, but at some point these existing religions had to form from something, right? Do you really have to subscribe to an existing one?

>>15781484
You're not allowed to say that word.

>>15781482
Attend Latin mass or a reverent novord like us tradchads
Also mediate and pray and stop trying to “fit in” to some niche group to feel validated like a cuck.

>>15784720
Ride the Tiger of the Catholic Church until better times come and the church starts purging its priestly orders and purifying (through flaming stakes) this church of its degenerate infiltrators. But first, one must put to stake the degeneracy in your soul before you put to stake others. Faith Hope and Charity. Pax

>>15781482
Esoterism is just intellectualised delusion

>>15784760
The uninitiated make..
>clears throat
Uninitiate...
>stares at the sun
Conclusions

>>15784618
Since you're asking, yes, you really do need a God, or at least a metaphysics. Your perspective is a conclusion in search of a justification; you have the cart before the horse. Traditionalist spirituality is entirely derivative, and disordered. If you truly think you're more correct than anyone that has come before, then write your own books and we can critique those. Until then, unwise for any of us to claim that we have our own "school" of thought.

But that's not even really the point; I just think everyone, especially authors primarily occupied with spirituality, should have clear and consistent spiritual views. Embarrassing to claim that's the point of your existence and not be able to explain what it means other than "I see a lot of triangles in imagery and that means magic"

>>15784720
based

>>15784720
>stop trying to “fit in” to some niche group to feel validated like a cuck
says the guy who converted to Catholicism because tradtwitter told him it was "based". I grew up Catholic you fucking goober and although I love the Church, it never resonated with me on a deep level.

>>15783106
I suggest reading all of the world's religious scriptures and note where they all overlap. Then, choose to follow one that is most palatable to your being. That is to say, one that best acts as a support that makes the esoteric intelligible and integratable. Guenon, Coomaraswamy, Schuon et al. can serve as guides to this approach.

>>15785126
But not all Catholics think the same. The Eucharist is interpreted differently between all sorts of Christian denominations. Catholics in particular believe that it is transubstantiation. I'm sure there are Catholics who hold different beliefs but still go to Mass or just call themselves Catholics and never attend anything, right? It goes beyond the religious teachings and expands into how you practice it in your life, and we all lead different lives.

But this is all beside the point, as I'm personally looking for a more practical toolset than typical religious teachings. It think to the uneducated it takes a pastor or rabbi to interpret religious knowledge and apply them as teachings for real world applications. When your daughter reveals to you and your wife that she is a lesbian and you are having difficulty coping, what do you do? Alternatively, take the current American racial situation. There has been a surge in interest for racial literature as people are trying gain an understanding on these subjects. Now, instead of the interpretations of religious texts they are getting their programming from commercial authors. I like to think that the concept of tradition expands beyond a religious sense.

For my own curiosity, could you give an example of a metaphysics so I can look some up?

Also I can't really address the triangles thing you've brought up as I haven't read any of the tradlit yet, but it seems like a big strawman.

>>15781482
>what traditions are still valid that one could initiate into or whatever
Your own. There's nothing stopping you from studying others' without being/becoming some kind of perennialist/new age milquetoast

>>15781517
>Guenon supported masonry,
Early on, less so later

>>15781651
>Traditions are gone
Consciousness/spirit is non-local and you are the leading link in the chain of your ancestors' being, which you share and instantiate.

>>15783504
>Like a lost soldier, I have sought to join a departed army by my own means
The Great Escape -- there's' glory in the attempt, if only to divert Ahrimanic forces

>>15781498
Every post like this from tradlarpers just furrher shows how shallow your understanding of concepts like "modernity" and "tradition" really are.

>>15781746
Yes, paganism survived. It ditched the Gods and the stories (which were irrelevant metaphors anyways) and evolved into what is known as hermeticism. Hermeticism is just pagan philosophy without the Gods.

>t. Brainlet

>>15786062
Huh?

>>15786155
thank you for the insight, but the name calling was a little unnecessary

>>15786215
What I mean is that *I* am the brainlet.

>>15781482
Evola is pure LARP and disconnected obscurantist rambling. Perennialism and Traditionalism (capital T!!!) are cringe.

>>15786508
i know, don't be so hard on yourself :^)
>>15786529
maybe it is you who is cringe

>>15781482
Reread the definition of 'esoteric.'

"Ora, lege, lege, lege, relege, labora et invenies."

>>15781809
I don't know if the deer's a good comparison, that's a unique defense mechanism among prey animals.

But yes, it is interesting to compare a bomb which only sends shrapnel and ignites your body, vs a bomb that seems to disintegrate your very essence itself. I'm sure depending on distance there's not much practical difference, gunpowder can destroy anything of you recognizable as human while nuclear fission can merely bludgeon you with rubble and blister your skin, but yeah, there is something to "the bomb" that will always be post-modern.

Don't forget where you came from. Pagan religions are not gone, time to wake up. Also study astrology in religions. All religions are just branches of astrology.

>>15783460
While I agree with the poster above about this period being the Kali Yuga, it's important to realize that the entity, that is society, isn't necessarily reflected in the lives of all individuals. It's very possible to brave the storm with the loving home life you desire, so don't buy into the notion that happiness cannot be found in the times we live. Admittedly, I'm new to the 'traditionalist' scene, but I'd be willing to discuss it further if you're interested. Keep in mind that the way I'm exploring it is irreligious, so that domain is outside of my knowledge base.

>>15783778
From your rhetoric, it would seem that you're religious. On what grounds do you find it to be 'cringe'?

To answer your question, spiritual practice without actual belief in the supernatural (not to say all who engage with these ideas are non-believers) still has positive psychological effects on its practioners. Moreover, it can often provide an individual with belonging by the associated organization, not unlike you'd find in an Abrahmic faith. Take Shintoism, for example. Most of those who practice it, the Japanese, are atheistic but continue to practice it regardless. It is a way of exercising remembarance of their ancestors, among other things.

>>15787978
I'm interested. What are you doing anon?

>>15785142
Why does your personal lack of resonance urge you to attack mine? I am no convert, I did grow up Catholic (not a very strong Catholic family) and I simply turned the dial up. If you think I am some LARP, I live in a Spanish conquered land with cathedrals surrounding me and a deep Catholic mythos in the air. Not like that matters, since converts are great too.

Get off the internet. The locus is not “Catholic twitter” it’s your local church, moron internet addict

>>15789035
no ones talking about twitter

I dont know; love nature; walk among it and gods will walk with you

>>15789006
For now, I'll just clue you into what I'm doing at the present. There's the story of my 'journey' we can get into later, if it interests you.

As of right now, I'm devoting my time to language learning, as it is one pathway to enable my desire for a more traditionalist lifestyle. Now, it's not a move to escape my country of origin but rather to 'marry' (not in the legal sense) the woman I love and the one who wants to hear my children. I met her while working overseas, where we dated for a few years. This could, of course, be found anywhere. It just happened to be in a foreign land in my case. This task, language learning, has had a tremendous effect on my, psychologically speaking. The 'toiling' in of itself makes you feel like you're actively working towards making your personal bubble of traditional existence come into being. Having gone the more political route before hand, the most dangerous thing one could engage with is defeatism and total demoralization. To overcome this, I recommend committing yourself to something unironically and unabashedly. The 'doing everything ironically' aspect of millennial culture is a part of a 'modern' mindset. Note that modernity is not a word that describes anything and everything everything to come into being in the last few centuries, so don't let others fool you.

I have more to say on books, materialism, media consumption, etc...

>>15791749
not the anon you are replying to but would like to hear more. i think a lot of people here struggle trying to justify doing much, and are long separated from acts of initiation which give you some momentum.

I don't want to make another thread about Evola, does anyone know when/where Evola talks about how a solution to modernity without initiations could be orienting one's life towards a Traditional symbol (I think he used the sun as an example). I thought it was in Ride the Tiger but I'm flipping through it and can't find it

>>15792534
I just finished 'Men Among the Ruins'. It shouldn't be in that one.

>>15792534
Pagan Imperialism.

There is a biography on Evola that specifically covers his WW2 years that is being released tomorrow. It's also supposed to include some of his correspondence with Rene Guenon among others.

>>15791749
>>15792299
I'm the original anon and I would also be interested. Thanks for the visual guide. I do creative things but don't have much financial gain from that. One of my main conflicts is finding a way to use the things I enjoy to making a living. but that's just entrepreneurship.

>>15781482
Take the Gnostic and Hermetic pills. Kabbalah also.

>>15781517
It's not even a question of preference alone. Rather, for this school, all those traditions - Islam, Christianity, neopaganism etc - are all aspects of the same universal tradition. You pick the one you like but that one is never an end in itself, but a means to get to the Actual Truth that hides behind it that is impossible to rationally communicate itself in its totality.

>>15781482
You cannot have tradition in a wage labor society.Stop being stupid.
/thread

>>15792299
Well, the truth is we've become alienated from most of our traditions, but it's not the end of all things. What's important is to identify the idealogical common ground shared amongst various cultures. The goal of this is to seek 'universal' principles that naturally give rise to healthy societies. Once we're familiar, we will likely be the ones to found new activities centered in those timeless principles.

If you're going to read Evola but not in that order, you shouldn't begin with 'Revolt Against the Modern World', as it is full with jargon that lacks meaning to those not already familiar with it. You'd be better off starting with 'Men Among the Ruins', which is made up of concrete discourse and a collection of essays on the author's life. You can choose to skip over it, but it may help give you context.

One thing I strongly recommend is minimizing your consumption of mass media. To use an anecdote, I gave up coffee for three months due to overconsumption. After coming back to it, I found the taste to be exceptionally harsh. What I mean is that constant exposure to the elements in most television and movies steadily indoctrinate you to a certain outlook. It becomes normalized in your mind. However, in the absence of this endless consumption, your mind returns to normalcy. I can hardly watch American media anymore, as my sense of disgust with it has become acute. Honestly? I'm happier now that I've minimized it.

I still watch anime, though. Sub over dub master race checking in.

>>15792882
Well, it's not about the money, Anon. Though, that's not to say you can't earn money from the task. It doesn't really matter what the task is, as long as it's a labor of love, so to speak.

I'd also recommend trying to develop a greater appreciation for nature. I hike, cave, kayak, etc... from time to time, but even walking my dog in the public park seems to help.

To expand upon my earlier post, I've also cut most of my news consumption. Some may say that it's sticking my head in the ground in an attempt to hide from the reality of the situation, but there's little of practical value to render from the news media. By its very nature, it is formatted in such a way to misrepresent reality in a way that advances an agenda or induces rage or anxiety in a viewer to keep him 'tuned in'. There's a chapter in the aforementioned book regarding this in relation to how history is portrayed.

>>15793445
What leads you to assert this, anon? What's your reasoning in concrete terms?