/lit/ - Literature

Is there a single race more based and redpilled than the New?

>>15747634
Jew*

>>15747621
Unironically, the biggest thing holding the radical right back is their overinflated obsession with the Jews.

>>15747683
that is exactly backwards, they never get anywhere because they don't seem to notice all the institutions run by Jews

>>15747683
>overinflated obsession with the Jews.
Meanwhile, the Jews keep track of every wrongdoing ancient people who don't even exist anymore have done to them. Talking about obsession

>>15747690
>they don't seem to notice

>>15747638
The Aryan race

>>15747643
Is there an epub of this anywhere?

>>15747702
Yes

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=jewish+revolutionary+spirit&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def

>>15747669
Amateur

>>15747705
I'm only seeing a pdf and djvu.

>>15747720
Just convert it to epub online you dummy

>>15747731
Yeah that would work real well, you fucking genius.

>>15747736
>Yeah that would work real well, you fucking genius.
Just get the fuck out, retard!

>>15747695
>ethnic group is conscious if its history
mein gott

>>15747770
well it's a colossal amount of larping. It's like if Italian-Americans obsessed over ancient Roman military losses

>>15747731
I've never had any success with that. My copy of Reflections of a Russian Statesman is all fucky because of that.

>>15747683
From attaining power in a manner that benefits the Jews instead of the various peoples of the world, yeah, I'd totally agree. There's plenty of smart dudes who are Nazis and that locks them out of contributing to ZOG, but then, why would you want to benefit ZOG? Doing so directly fucks over literally everyone else but Jews.

>>15747770
>studiying Jews BAD
>eating Hamans ears on Purim every year in order to NEVAH4GET GOOD
Wonderful people

>>15747683
Pretty much, and Nietzsche called them out on it. They reaped what they sowed by ignoring him.

>>15747904
literally the only time the far right has made any ground since Nietzsche was the Nazis

>>15747948
And then they lost

>>15747948
Nazi obsession with Jews is overblown. Their success was greatly a result of other priorities as well. Who do you think has been in charge of history since then?

>>15747783
>From attaining power in a manner that benefits the Jews instead of the various peoples of the world, yeah, I'd totally agree
It's more that their obsession makes them come across as fucking deranged and everybody laughs at them for it.

>>15748079
>the people in power via illegitimate means get upset when you point out that they're in power via illegitimate means
Yeah, that's entirely in line with what I said. Not sure why you made this post tbqh.

>>15748005
yes they lost, but they still got way, way further than any other far right movement

>>15748079
i thought america was a white supremacist state made up entirely of racists, which is why only black lives matter and we need to tear statues of lincoln and fdr?

you fags need to make uo your mind. theres a reason everyone laughs at you.

>>15748096
It's likely because their movement was about a lot more than antisemitism and barbaric Might Is Right thickheadedness. They integrated the Wagnerian with the Nietzschean.

>>15748092
The Jews aren't in power though, that's why you come across as crazy (in a funny way).
>>15748092
>i thought america was a white supremacist state
Thought wrong.

>>15748185
They're not in power, they just dominate all important institutions and you're blacklisted from everything, in some countries imprisoned, for criticizing them or disagreeing with their narratives.

>>15748185
>stop noticing things! you're crazy for noticing things!
This is why nobody likes you, anon.

>>15748185
>The Jews aren't in power though, that's why you come across as crazy (in a funny way).
That's pure systemic semitism. Desemitize your mind anon!

Jews are pretty based overall. They have some questionable aesthetics, though.

>>15747621
Evola had a good take on jews:

https://youtu.be/3RGeCigJT-w

>>15748200
Not who you responded to, but their domination has been on their own accord. Lots of Jews are highly intelligent and industrious people who invest a ton of money and energy in education and travel, which warrants them the privilege of obtaining cultural mastery. They deserve to be in most positions of authority you find them in. On top of this, most "criticisms" of their "narratives" boil down to fits of rage against strawmen and conspiracies.

>>15748268
They deserve it in the same way they deserved the holocaust, everyone deserves whatever power they can scrap together.

>>15748274
>They deserve it in the same way they deserved the holocaust
I don't see how you got that from my post.

>>15748288
Talk shit - get hit

>>15747683
So wait, the way to defeat the Jew is ignore the Jew? Or are you implying that worldwide Zionism isn't a threat to Western Civilization's interests? Cause I gotta shocking answer for you. You're a fucking Jew obviously

>>15748333
Instead of hitting, try thinking for a change.

>>15748344
>>15748200
>>15748209
>>15748242
>tilting at windmills

>>15747777
Honestly the most butthurt ethnicities I've come across are the Irish, the Polish, blacks, Native Americans and the fucking Jews. These five fucks will remember if you farted on their grilled cheese sandwich ten fucking years ago or more.They're all so fucking insufferable

>>15747683

>>15748370
What kind of retard wouldn't remember someone farting on their grilled cheese a mere ten years later? Bad analogy.

>>15748381
STFU Jew, it happens sometimes

>>15747683
What a bad fucking example. I'm assuming this is bait cause if it's not you sure are showing your powerlevel here. Assuming you watch a film where the good guys are fighting an enemy, doesn't matter what genre, could be fighting gangsters, ninjas, aliens, vampires or whatever but would you take it seriously if they just ignored them? Cmon on now

>>15748408
>calls a post a bad example, where no example was given
>proceeds to give a bad analogy
The biggest thing holding the radical right back is that they're functionally retarded.

>>15748353
I've done my research. The time for talking is over

>>15748436
>pic
What a colossal non-argument.

>>15748344
Capitalists, cosmopolitans, and international financiers exist within all ethnic groups. Despite Jews being vastly overrepresented, it would be within the New Right's interest to avoid their Semitic obsession and just focus on the broader aforementioned labels

>>15748542
The irony is that they'll never find a group in American more aligned with their own interests than Orthodox Jews.

>>15748572
Jews lack empathy so no.

>>15748542
Jews aren't "overrepresented" because that implies someone conducting the representation, and there isn't anyone in that position. I agree otherwise.

>>15747621
not real, unlike systemic racism

>>15748628
>implies someone conducting the representation
other jews, it's called nepotism

>>15748641
The system is too large and intricate for that to be the case.

>>15748639
Sure, correct the record Chaim!

>>15747683
Unironically the only thing holding back fascism and war is whites males

>>15748648
now post the one showing all the irish

>>15748674
Systemic celtism is another topic, you're under the spotlights for now.

>>15748686
Slavery is a necessity for all great cultures. You're just proving to me that Jews are really based.

>>15748648
1. Some of them aren't even Jews, they are just married to them
2. what do you think you can prove with this
3. why do you think it is a bad thing

>>15748705
>You're just proving to me that Jews are really based.
So why do jews deny their role in the slave ownership and blame it on "whites"?
Are you afraid?

>>15748641
And how do they know if the person who auditions is Jewish, most of them just look white

>>15748723
imagine thinking that whites didn't have slaves

>>15748716
>1. Some of them aren't even Jews, they are just married to them
maybe 1% of those, this isn't really an argument and you know it

>2. what do you think you can prove with this
That the main stream media narrative is essentially jewish and for the jewish purposes

>3. why do you think it is a bad thing
It's not necessarily a bad thing if such institutions would serve all the people of America but they clearly don't so we have to address the issue of systemic semitism here.

>>15748724
you really don't understand these people at all lol. They know who is Jewish and who isn't, they get weirded out if they realize you know too.

>>15748723
Why do you think? You would too if you were in their position.

>>15748743
I don't and you have evaded the point. Classic semitism

>>15748758
You can apply that to most antisemites on /pol/ as well, hilariously enough. I think Nietzsche was on to something when he lumped Jews and Christians together under slave morality.

>>15748789
At least we can agree on that, Christians are spiritual semites. They don't serve our cause.

>>15748750
>maybe 1% of those, this isn't really an argument and you know it
I just did a quick google search of some of these names to see if they are legit and I already found that one of them isn't even Jewish. Obviously I can't fact check everything on the spot, but it says something for those who compiled the list.
>That the main stream media narrative is essentially jewish and for the jewish purposes
That doesn't logically follow from the one premise you gave so far (that jews are overepresented in mainstream media), what is your argument here

>>15748751
I am asking you how

>>15748758
then what did you mean by
>So why do jews deny their role in the slave ownership and blame it on "whites"?
Sounds like you are denying that the whites were slave owners. Also
>Classic semitism
Are you accusing me of being jewish?

Antisemitism is born out of envy of the Jewish superiority

>>15748646
Proof?

>>15748674
Whataboutism.

>>15748743
Strawman argument.

>>15748724
I have seen religio-ethnic minorities recognize strangers of their own group based on noticing the specific attributes of a piece of artwork that looked perfectly ordinary to me. I have seen the same happen when they noticed a particular turn of phraseology that they use in common parlance, but that is directly derived from their own religious text. They can very easily and subtly test each other to validate their assumptions.
>could you return for a secondary interview on x date?
>oh, no, i am sorry, but that is a special holy day for my people
>you're hired

>>15747621
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>>15749360
My superior brain.

>>15749280
Proof?

>>15749461
Proof?

>>15749453
I really hope that you get the leading role in the upcoming coomer movie.

>>15749486
Asking for proof is proof of your brain's inferiority.

>>15747690
This.

>>15749525
Proof?

>>15749425
Most of the Jews in the media are probably atheist, so that doesn't even make sense. I don't know if you realize how ridiculous what are you saying is. You want me to believe that the reason there are so many jews in the media is because jews hire other jews based on common phraseology they use, even thought most of them are born in America and have no idea what phrases Israelis use. And even if they were, you can't tell a persons ethnicity by what phrases he uses in english which is not even his first language. Your case is utterly implausible.

>>15749627
It's a combination of how they look, their names, their general socialization, etc. If a goy can develop the ability to recognize them obviously they can recognize each other.

>>15749648
>It's a combination of how they look
most of the guys and gals in your chart cannot be recognised as jewish just by looking at them
>their names
that's true, but only for the steins and the like
>their general socialization
nigga please, you might as well say that you can smell them
>If a goy can develop the ability to recognize them obviously they can recognize each other.
you can't, the chart you posted was compiled by doing research on each of them individually, otherwise it's impossible to tell.

>>15749648
>>15749964
I'm jewish so I think I can shed some light on this. This may sound really bizarre, but for all my life I've just been able to "sense" other jews around me regardless of any physical or social tells. I'll walk into a room and I'll immediately get this tingling feeling in my gut and testicles if there is another jew present. I am utterly incapable of explaining it, but it occurs with such frequency and accuracy that I cannot deny its existence.

>>15748750
>>15748988
>>15749031
>>15749964
Why can't you type like a normal person?

>>15750051
capitalization and punctuation are jewish tricks.

>>15750061
I'm talking about how you quote and respond to individual sentences. Are you retarded or something? Everybody else seems to able to respond to multiple things without making an eyesore of it.

>>15750095
>you

>>15747621
Barely anybody has read this book, and whenever the topic arises a bunch of panicky shitposters flood the comments.

>>15747698
common parlance places conservatism "on the right" and no they don't notice but when they do they keep their goddamn mouths shut because they know how power works

>>15750144
>radical right

>>15750147
normalize the radical right!

>>15748247
bro they look gucci

>>15749627
>Most of the Jews in the media are probably atheist
Proof that this discredits my point?
>I don't know if you realize how ridiculous what are you saying is
Bloviating attempt as discrediting intelligence.
>have no idea what phrases Israelis use
>*CTRL+F "israelis"*
This is your premise, not mine.
>you can't tell a persons ethnicity by what phrases he uses in english which is not even his first language
If I hear certain phrases like, "If you have three carrots stuck in your but then you pull them out one at a time" then I know that there is a good chance that I am speaking to a Romanian.
>Your case is utterly implausible
Then please, state your case.

>>15749964
>cannot be recognised as jewish just by looking at them
Strawman.
>that's true, but only for the steins and the like
What about names like "Ayoob"?
>nigga please, you might as well say that you can smell them
Birds of a feather.
>you can't
Strawman. The question was whether or not they could identify their own

>>15750095
>Everybody else seems to able to respond to multiple things without making an eyesore of it.
No. Generally, in questions regarding Judaism, Jews argue in bad faith and tend to try to obfuscate the discussion by pretending that one answer applied to a different question. Greentexting is a way of addressing issues precisely, so the opponent has a greater difficulty in establishing the false plausibility of allowance of a permutation.

>>15750135
Yes - merely ask questions regarding specific sections and opponents either go silent or their dialectic radically shifts.

Contributing with actual book recc

bump

>>15750295
OP here, thanks for the suggestion will add to my list

>>15750135
I wonder who could be behind all those shitposts...

>>15747683
People refuse to accept that Jews are not monolithic. You can oppose American foreign wars, sinister monetary practice, untrustworthy media institutions, social liberalism, and subversive propagandizing by Israel, while understanding that the average Israeli citizen probably would understand and agree with your desire to maintain your civilization.

But of course, to anyone with severe autism who already has no value to a "movement" of any kind, accepting this fact is akin to "cucking" to Jews.

>>15749964
>otherwise it's impossible to tell.
My jewdar has always been spot on. Wanna play jew or not jew? I'll win. It's something a true Aryan possesses naturally.

>>15750529
Kevin Macdonald says as much over and over again throughout the book yet people continue to act like he's treating Jews as a hivemind. I only see this much dishonesty when talking about Jews.

>>15750559
There was a time when I would get genuinely upset over the slightest general critique of Jewish culture on the internet or in real life despite not being Jewish. It's really a strange phenomenon

>>15750587
Yeah that's really strange, I couldn't imagine why that would be. I don't know why you're telling me.

2016 was such a bad year for chans, every board filled up with anti-semitic cockroaches. I love that this wave is getting smaller by each year. I hope they become fringe on lit again, because they ruin every discussion by their schizo ramblings.

>>15750762
>seething kike with no argument

>>15750762
>anti-semitic cockroaches
I guess the one shitting up the thread are the actual semites.
No one invited you here t b h

>>15750498
He's not wrong. I have seen CoC threads go to bump limit without either side ever addressing the contents of the book.

>>15750559
>Proverbs 30:27
>The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands
The Jews have observed this phenomenon themselves.

>>15747683
This, sure Jews are overwhelming liberal, in favor of international intervention, etc. but they're not the root of the problem. White elites would still be there doing the same shit even if you got rid of all the Jews. Jews don't comprise a majority of the elite, they're only an interest group within it.

>>15750587
This is a symptom of Holocaust Guilt. It is a potent elixir. I, too, suffered this ailment.

>>15748344
There's no such thing as worldwide Zionism you moron.

>>15747948
Ah yes and that lasted barely more than a decade because Shitler was too retarded to do diplomacy properly. Meanwhile, non-antisemitic right wing parties are winning all over Europe.

>>15750833
Realizing that holocaust is a hoax set me free of this poison.

>>15750831
>they're not the root of the problem
State your argument.
>White elites would still be there doing the same shit
State your argument.
>Jews don't comprise a majority of the elite
I find the fact that they comprise such an outsized fraction to be interesting, as well as the fact that, while they tend to be very politicized, other billionaires tend to straggle on the sidelines of politics.

>>15748344
Jews aren't the source of the problem, that's liberal capitalism. Jews are an accelerant at best, so focuses on them in a country that's one of the least antisemitic ever is counter productive.

>>15750873
>antisemitic
What does it even mean at this point?

>>15750860
America is where it's at because it is at late stage of development in its founding ideology of liberalism. The individual has to be continuously liberated from circumstances of birth. This combined with the fact that dividing the working class on racial lines is useful for capital and that immigration is useful since it provides an endless line of scabs more than explains the situation in the US. US elites have been behaving more or less the same, though are much less competent now, but they've been in favor of expanding individual rights and importing foreign workers since the founding of the country all before there were significant numbers of Jews in the country. Jews aren't 'tricking' white elites into doing things against their own interests.
>I find the fact that they comprise such an outsized fraction to be interesting
Jews do have a high IQ which leads to more disproportionate representation at the highest levels, of course there is no doubt ethnic in group bias for rewarding other Jews as well, but this does not hold that they're in control of the whole thing as they're very much a minority still, even in elite circles.
>they tend to be very politicized, other billionaires tend to straggle on the sidelines of politics.
All elites are political, literally everyone of these people donate to NGOs and buy out media companies. Jeff Bezos is a prime example, he bought out the Washington Post specifically for his own advantage.

>>15750884
I'm using it as an adjective, not as a piece of moral judgement. In polls with people about Jews, the US and UK routinely poll at the absolute bottom for any antisemitic views.

>>15750853
The big problem that I see with this is the absolute break that one experiences. It tends to induce Dunning-Kruger ala "there is no greater zealot than an acolyte lost to conversion". Once you start speaking to people from the other side of the argument, you realize that most affirmative arguments for the myth engage in gross fallacies - notably strawmanning. This realization tends to drive the acceleration of the rejection which often results in onlookers thinking that the person having an educated epiphany is, in fact, going loopy.

>>15750775
I'm not even jewish you deranged low iq nazi larper
>>15750785
nah, I'm talking about the state of chan in general

>>15750935
>antisemitic views.
Again. what are antisemitic views nowadays?

>>15750529
I do understand all of that nuance, but at the end of the day the average jew still intuits that their interests are inextricable from those of elite jews, zionism, double standards against whites and so on. Their ethnic loyalty is strong, and they live a victimhood narrative that programs them to think that they will be genocided if whites are allowed to become ethnocentric (when long-term they should be far more worried about the 'browning' of the West).

>>15750873
>in a country that's one of the least antisemitic ever
That tends to happen when the adversary controls the propaganda organ.

pol retards really cannot accept that contemporary degeneracy is the product of liberal West and have to blame everything on "outside" forces, this such a base and low iq stance that it makes me root for the jews

>>15750943
>I'm talking about the state of chan in general
Stop shitting up the board, remove yourself from 4chan and the quality of it will go up. That's my advice to you if you're really worried about the declining qualitiy of 4chan. Do your part, remove yourself.

>you deranged low iq nazi larper
pic related

>>15750943
The beauty of antisemitism as an argument is that it makes it very easy to dismiss people who disagree with it. In the mind of an antisemite, not being antisemitic means 1 of 3 things. The person is either a Jew themselves, a crypto Jew posing as a non-Jew, or someone tricked/controlled by Jews. Antisemites never have to address arguments on their own terms because antisemitism rejects that idea, since those arguments might be being made by Jews and thus not valid.

>>15750959
I guess Weimar Germany wasn't antisemitic at all then, since it was controlled by Jews.

>>15750943
>I'm talking about the state of chan in general
Be the change you want to see.

>>15750949
I'm not the one making the distinction, but normally the polls measure on ideas that Jews control everything, blood libel, Jews are a problem, etc.

>>15750853
I remember the day I asked in holocaust class "why did the germans kill all the jews in the camps if their war effort wasn't going well and they needed the stuff they were producing"
>Because they hated them so much
"but the book just said the germans were starving"
>that's because Hitler used all the fertilizer for bombs
"......(what does that have to do with what I asked)"

I don't remember how the dialogue with the teacher ended but I know how my political stance began taking a certain color

>>15750975
Strawman.

>>15750968
I usually effort post on philosophy boards and I'm a signed model, but whatever. I know living in todays world is hard, but you should control your resentiment. Dont be a woman, be like greeks. No jealousy, no ill-feeling, no inferiority complex. I think you all pol larpers should read greeks and Nietzsche.

>>15750873
>>15750935
>>15750979
kike

>>15750980
>dumbass public school teacher doesn't have good answers
No shit. The war effort in the 3rd Reich was famously bad. So bad that Speer was able to raise factory outputs while getting bombed to pieces. Concentration camps also helped with the war effort since they provided slave labor.

>>15750969
yeah spot on, they have a really easy way out of arguments
>>15750978
I'm not the problem though

>>15750979
>ideas that Jews control everything, blood libel, Jews are a problem
So.. the truth. Antisemitism is saying out loud what is true about jews.

The original definition was something in lines - irrational prejudice against jews. Which is bad. But informed prejudice against the jews is justified.

>>15750986
>Dont be a woman, be like greeks. No jealousy, no ill-feeling, no inferiority complex.
You need to read the Greeks.

>>15750873
True, they are opportunists par excellence, but a whole lot of them really do have a chip on their shoulder about whites ("never again" and all that)... They are a serious roadblock. Moving to restrain liberalism & capitalism will inevitably entail rooting out jewish influence.

JEW'S AREN'T THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM

THEIR OVERWHELMING OVERREPRESENTATION IN ALL INSTITUTIONS LEADING SOCIETAL CHANGE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO SMART

IT'S ACTUALLY YOUR FAULT FOR ENABLING LIBERAL CAPITALISM, THE JEWS ARE JUST COINCIDENTALLY DOING REALLY WELL BECAUSE OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES

>>15750994
>I'm not the problem though
Says the one that contributes nothing.

>>15750989
Oh yeah you got me bro, I'm a secret Jew, my plans have been foiled since you named me as a Jew. See >>15750969
Not that you'll believe me, but I'm a White Anglo Saxon Mormon.

>>15751005
I have, I study philosophy. Their culture has very minimal resentiment and inferiority, unless you can source me up on the opposite

>>15750986
>no inferiority complex
>muh holohoax
>muh anti-semitism
>muh persecutions
>muh Babylonian captivity nevar4get!!!11
>muh Roman occupation nevar4get
>muh Egyptian captivity nevar4get
I could go on for ages. You people are the definition of an inferiority complex. That's why I find you disgusting.

>>15750985
That's not a strawman, since that's the conclusion of the logic you're making. Wouldn't countries controlled by Jews be more antisemitic? The US has historically been very philosemitic, even before large numbers of Jews got here.

>>15751017
But I'm having conversations with other anons, you on the other hand anon cannot live without me

>>15751035
The thread would in fact be better without you, you've just set of a bout of shitflinging

>>15751014
Love how the schizo who put that chart together decided to throw in WN podcasters for no reason lmao

>>15751028
why are you so triggered. If jews actually rule everything and are as subversive as you tell everyone, why you don't do anything about it? Because if you only cry on the internet, you act just as those jews you decry. Go kill them or something, be a man. Inferiority complex is a product of a situation where you can not retaliate and the problem with pol larper is precisely that. They ARE the jews of 21th century.

>>15751054
>funded and handled by jews
>no reason

>>15751008
Anything that would get rid of liberal capitalism would thus rid the Jews of their power since they rely on those institutions. Why focus on Jews when the general public is not antisemitic?

>Disliking jews instead of disliking big capitalists as a whole

Come on retards, you are better than that

>>15751050
Your comments dont help, sweatie. We are going down in the same boat.

>>15751061
>goalposts on parade

>>15751063
Kek it has Eric Harris too

>>15751077
what that means

>>15751073
The thread was fine before, I haven't posted since earlier on though. Was going to make a post about Jewish identity as a Schelling point but it's just a flamewar now.

>>15751025
>very minimal resentiment and inferiority
The jury for the trial of Socrates was loaded with whiny bitches. The absolute state of seething Athenians.

>>15750969
>address arguments
try making an argument

retarded bots narrating about hypotheticals then advancing the goalposts a mile when they're questioned

>>15751089
no one is stopping you from posting that, I might even reply to it, dont victimize yourself like that, its a sign of a deep rooted femininity. You know, you act like my ex "uwu you ruined it im not saying it now".

>>15750969
Well if that paradigm is erroneous, then what are the other possibilities? I suppose they could have tricked themselves (via religion or whatever).

To deny disproportionate jewish influence in U.S. / European politics, Western academia and international finance is to either lie or to be un/misinformed.

>>15751102
I did make an argument, that antisemites don't address arguments on their own terms and rather label them Jewish.

>>15751086
it means you have no standard of truth
you change the subject when you have nothing to argue and try to pass this off as a point
it means you're a braindead NPC

>>15751107
I'm not saying Jews don't have influence, they obviously do since there's shit like AIPAC. I just don't think it's the source of the West's problems.

>>15751104
People like yourself don't have much of anything interesting to say is the problem. A conversation is simply an opportunity for you to posture about your identity in a few ways vaguely related to the topic at hand. A critical mass of people like this makes a thread decay into name-calling.

>>15751082
are you trying to communicate something?
try thinking in complete thoughts

>>15751113
He's probably new here, his first days in the office. Give the man some time, he'll defend Israel online like a pro.

>>15751107
oh and of course MSM media, Hollywood... Hugely important vectors of influence.

>>15751097
Well yes, we should keep in might that the political situation of that trial was very intense. Greece lost a war and they were very paranoid about Gods punishing them for not being pious enough. So Socrates functioned as a scapegoat. Greece in general was mad about keeping up the purity of society (did you know that every year they would choose in Athens one ugly man and woman and would shame and beat them, sometimes killing, in public, just to keep the polis "pure"). Having in mind those political and cultural nuances in mind the trial of Socrates is understandable.

Reminder its kikes AND Anglos that you should hate

>>15751112
that's not an argument
you have no example here
>I can just narrate whatever bullshit i want and call it an argument

>>15751124
come on, I even started to effort post >>15751129, you need to stop playing this game, I know its fun for you, but get off that high horse

>>15751130
Thanks, I'll stick to the kikes tho

>>15751031
>That's not a strawman
Bullshit. "At all" makes it a strawman argument.
>Wouldn't countries controlled by Jews be more antisemitic?
Anti-judaism is difficult to measure because people are so scared to even discuss anything Jewish for fear of offending philosemites. I find that, once people see the liberal influence (see Most's Theatrical Liberalism) that they tend to reject Judaism.

>>15751130
>>15751141
he's not wrong though not accurate
the traitors are the jew's interface to get to us
it's important to kill them, it may be even more important than killing the jew

>>15751113
What do you mean? The poster I replied to said jews are victimizing themselves a lot, I said pol larpers are doing exactly the same, what do you mean I have no standart of truth? I just pointed out the hypocrisy of anti-semites who cry and do nothing

>>15751151
I'm really glad you took the time to explain that but I'm gonna have to decline the offer. Only jews on the menu for me.

>>15751152
Getiing informed on the jews is actually doing something. Even better is sharing this noble knowledge. I'm doing my part and you seem to have a problem with that.
Are you trying to stop me?

>>15751125
Oh yeah let me spam a giant unsourced infographic, I forgot that's how you people talk.

>>15751210
>how you people talk
Who the fuck are "you"?

>>15751193
>Getiing informed on the jews is actually doing something
you act like those sjw retards who think spreading information and signing petitions is gonna do something. Pol larpers know that they wont do shit. They dont risk anything. Its a cozy position of resentiment which leads to a few edgy jokes here and there. Not stoping you, just want you to know how base your instincts are.

>>15751067
I don't focus on jews, my general focus is on opposing all anti-whiteness and the non-white invasion of the West. I can't ignore, however, that hostile jews keep popping up in the course of debates and researching anti-white trends. I mean, they don't even hide it anymore... They say blatant things about disenfranchising/destroying whites. I also can't ignore that they've been instrumental in promulgating the incalculably destructuve 'white guilt' narrative via Hollywood and the MSM.

If jews would stop being hostile and anti-white in their positions and actions, then I would happily see them allies. Won't happen though, because their current ethnocultural narrative is essentially anti-white and they seem to have a predisposition to subversive social strategies (which is why they kept getting expelled from host countries throughout history).

>>15751133
That literally is an argument, with a claim. You can say I didn't provide evidence but that's not the same thing as it not being an argument.

>>15751210
>if the source isn't convenient for me, an extremely stupid and lazy person, to go check, then it doesn't count as existing
the left in a nutshell
these are not human beings, kill them all

>>15751219
>I don't focus on the root of the problem
okay, but you could do better and we might need you to

>>15751216
>Not stoping you, just want you to know how base your instincts are.
Thanks, you're a noble soul trying to enlighten us /pol/ larpers of our failings. I see the light now. I will fully support jews from now on.
Anyways what's your opinion on the Culture of Critique?

>>15751222
Dude, it's a /pol/ infographic with random stars on people, there's multiple non-Jews in there. That's not a real source.

>>15751214
I'm based

>>15751147
>Anti-judaism is difficult to measure because people are so scared to even discuss anything Jewish
Alright, well there's no other way to really accurately measure antisemitism.

>>15751248
>Culture of Critique
haven't read that, but I have read enough Nietzsche to know that jews are subversive rats. I dont like jews myself, but pol larpers are even worse.

>>15751123
Yes, and I agree. I think whites were bound to run into problems with unrestrained liberalism/capitalism, but jews are now so entangled in that problem after 100+ years of influence, that to just shrug them off as inconsequential or tertiary is incredibly disengenuous.

Then there's the fact that they're hypocritically fomenting an even more urgent threat to whites in the form of mass non-white immigration (which has to be dealt with -before- or as we sort out the political issues). Sadly, jews are generally hostile to white interests and need to be unapologetically opposed.

I think /pol/ style anti-semitism is the equivalent of jewish psycho-pathologising of goys. Freudian bs, the authoritarian personality, myers briggs, repressed homosexuality, this trans shit, psychiatrists calling presidential candidates unhinged, the list goes on.

>>15751300
Ironically, 4chan itself has probably done more to promote degeneracy than any Jew could really hope for.

>>15751252
>DUDE, [TRIBAL VALUE SIGNALS]
great argument, cattle

there are sources listed all over the graphic

>>15751282
>pol larpers
you are a retarded child desperately trying to be accepted while downplaying the truth you know to help you fit in with the social ideal you've been brainwashed with

>>15751324
>it has a line of letter resembling a legit source, so it must be true
quick google search on a couple of these names shows its flawed, go ventilate somewhere else cuckboy

>>15751321
there's just too many comments like this one
there are more bots than ever, the kikes that run this site are increasing the bot activity under the pretense that they're reddit kids that were banned

>>15751324
Some parts do, but others are entirely unsourced, not to mention it arbitrarily has non-Jews on there labeled as shabbos goy.

>>15751334
accepted by who? I currently have no social responsibilities and can say whatever the fuck I want. Are you trying to psychoanalyze me, anon? You know that is jewish mode of thinking, right?

>>15751345
>doesn't give an example
>but supposedly went through the trouble to check
>after not reading the graphic carefully enough to see the sources listed
you are fucking unreal kike

>>15751352
You sound like a libtard screaming about Russian bots. Go take your meds schizo.

>>15751353
maybe if you typed in the headline you would find the article

whatever, this is just an illustration of how the left are totally braindead cattle that will never willingly take in any information, they have to be forced into everything because they have no will to live their own lives

>>15751358
jew

>>15751234
My friend, I understand how damaging jews have been, I am not letting them off the hook. But we have to acknowledge that the core of our vulnerability is our own predisposition towards humanitarian social strategies... This is what allows us to be 'gamed' by ethnic outgroups (the jews just happen to be the best at it). We also have a liberal 'spirit', which while advantageous at first, leads to the cancers of feminism and progressivism.

If we want to stand the test of time, ousting the jews is only the first step. We must also reconcile with our own nature and erect defenses around it.

>>15751381
Not all of them have headlines lmao. What kind of retard are you?

>>15751388
>j-jew
lmao you're pathetic, don't forget to read actual books and lift, you reek of femininity

>>15750958
At this point, I think if you know you know. Why would it be mandatory to teach lemmings about the JQ? Coming across as obsessed with Jews (other than in a positive way I guess) is the absolute worst thing you could do when trying to get public support.

>>15751282
They aren't worse, they're understandably angry and frustrated by the war against whites (excepting glowniggers of course).

So does anyone actually want to discuss the book? It's been a while since I read it, but it's one of the books I rated at 5 stars on goodreads. Only the last chapter is rather weak. The chapters on anthropology and psychoanalysis are particularly strong. You can't but appreciate that MacDonald almost exclusively relies on primary sources and sources with Jewish authorship. I can faintly remember having skimmed through another book about the Jews that consisted entirely of quotes by Jews, does anyone know what I'm talking about? I found Pinker's book review to be extremely funny. At some point in the following discussion with MacDonald, Pinker admitted to not even having READ the book. Also, MacDonald's motivations for writing the series and the progression of his opinion on Jews is extremely interesting. The only problem with him is that both his writings and his lectures are rather dry.

>>15751321
Oh yeah, 4chan is comparable to decades of hollywood influence. Fuck off noseberg

>>15751456
I have read it, I didn't find it particularly compelling. The other book is probably The Jewish Century.

>>15751427
>obsessed with "optics"
>has no arguments
>shamefully blabbers with no standard of truth
>calls others feminine
it's like you're an NPC

>>15751464
4chan is pretty much entirely responsible for the raise of tranny shit since trap porn was a staple on this site for many years. It's not a coincidence all the twitter trannies have anime avis.

>>15751408
whatever, this is just an illustration of how the left are totally braindead cattle that will never willingly take in any information, they have to be forced into everything because they have no will to live their own lives

>>15751485
>whatever, this is just an illustration of how the left are totally braindead cattle that will never willingly take in any information, they have to be forced into everything because they have no will to live their own lives

>>15751469
It is, thanks. Why didn't you find it compelling?

>>15751456
The book is fine for what it is, a compilation of Jewish involvement in a set of movements and events. The problem is that its group selection theory is inadequate. More generally we lack a useful sociological theory of group(in this case a pseudo-ethnic group) behavior. A group cannot behave like an agent, but there are patterns to group behavior, which differ between groups.

This area of inquiry is severely underdeveloped, in academia for obvious reasons, and outside it as well.

/pol/ ruined this site

>>15751473
I actually respond to your points, you havent responded to me pointing out that you are using psychoanalysis for example. I can feel your frustration, but repeating meme words wont lead to a productive discussion, anon

>>15751444
>the war against whites
I hope whites will win by shitposting on obscure forums

>>15751439
I don't lead with it, but given the abundant evidence of anti-whiteness (even from their own mouths), it's not like it's a hard-sell once someone is already starting to realize that they were sold a bill of goods.

A better question is why would it be necessary to officially criminalize the criticism of jews if it's so diffuclt for that paradigm to gain traction in the first place?

>>15751505
there's always reddit

>>15751499
I don't agree with the idea that these intellectual groups are what gave us modern liberalism.

The Holocaust Industry, Norman Finkelstein
The Jews and Modern Capitalism, Werner Sombart

>>15751477
Buddy, the seed of degeneracy germinated back in the '60s at the very latest. Trannies are just a blip along the way. Western society has been under a process of increasing feminization for at least a hundred years.

>>15751513
>in the end it just makes up lies to narrate its victory
whatever, this is just an illustration of how the left are totally braindead cattle that will never willingly take in any information, they have to be forced into everything because they have no will to live their own lives

>/pol/ on being white: if you are 1% some other ethnicity you aren't white!
>/pol/ on being jewish: they had a great grandfather from sicily? yeah they are totally jewish

>>15751575
what the fuck are you on about you fucking spastic, who's leftist? Take your pills unironically

>>15751591
do you have a thesis or are you just going to spew value judgements and buzzwords?

>>15748370
Native Americans>>>>Polish>Blacks>>>>>Jews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Micks

>>15751527
I reach out however I can that doesn't involve going to jail. Enough people dispensing red pills, even in 'obscure' forums, by going under-the-radar on popular sites, posting flyers etc. does eventually work its way back into mainstream discourse.

Your glib comment reveals you as just another anti-white, an enemy.

>>15751591
you are a leftist
you try to adorn yourself with ideological trinkets like a faggot and have no actual stance

>>15751528
>why would it be necessary to officially criminalize the criticism of jews if it's so diffuclt for that paradigm to gain traction in the first place?
Precisely to make sure that it doesn't gain traction. If a large amount of people supported the ideas, the law would never work. Most people think anti-semitism = hating jews = nazi = holocaust and there will be no mass awakening from this. My centrist mother knows that Jewish people in Hollywood are to blame for the proliferation of LGBT propaganda, but if someone told her America is effectively a Jewish-occupied country she'd be horrified by them. If you go with what works, like patriotism and opposition to social liberalism, you will gain much more traction than if you think its mandatory to get as many people as possible to recognize the various connections. The few people with good pattern-recognition skills will inevitably come around. At that point in order to quash it, they'd have to focus on criminalizing homophobia or opposition to foreign wars which are actually public sentiments that would be hard to put down.

>>15751591
>I know about the jews
>But people who are open to actually doing something about the problem are "pol larpers"
I kind of feel like this is a bot
I've been seeing tons of these fuckers that are self contradictory all over this shithole since reddits last ban wave

>>15751608
My point is that pol larpers are hypocrites. They victimize themselves and do nothing. I know why is that. When you designate your enemy as being "everywhere" then there is no possibility of change.Pol retards don't think how they should arrive at the change, they don't mobilize, because they are satisfied by short outburst of resentiment on the internet. Yeah, my point is a value judgement. I don't like people who talk shit and dont actually do anything. Antifa retards at least actually go in the streets and theorize, mobilize. Thats why the rankings are jews>leftists>pol larpers. Jews are succesful, leftists are retarded, but active and pol larpers are passive AND retarded

>>15751502
I found multilevel selection theory to be a fairly convincing refinement of group selection. Underdeveloped? Not sure, since it's not my field, although liberal ideology clearly dominates the argument. MacDonald's theory has more validity if you also take memetic factors into account.

race isn't even a real thing technically. The way you guys shove someone into a group based on this or that is pretty arbitrary especially since most Ashkenazis have more European genetics than actual "Semitic" which doesn't even specifically mean they even have ancestors from the Middle East, a lot are just southern European

>>15751693
Shhhhh, if it says that someone has jewish parents on wikipedia, its enough. They are bad guys, no need to actually think.

>>15751427
>don't forget to read actual books and lift
This is good advice for everyone.

>35 unique IPs
>250 posts
>zero actual posts discussing the content of the book
every single fucking time

>>15751456
I found the chapter on Boasian bullying within the circle of the anthropological sciences to be interesting.

>>15747683
They're too willing to play the bad guy in leftist narratives. There are a lot of reasons that high quality people are driven away from the far right but this is one of them.

>>15751693
>race isn't even a real thing technically
Tell a Jew to his face that he does not belong to a special chosen people.

>>15751758
If they aren't orthodox then I doubt that many care as much as you pretend

>>15751758
Most of the jews (just like any other ethnicity) is so integrated into the neoliberal order that they couldnt give a fuck about their roots. The problem is capitalism and ideology it produces, not some rootless group of people

>>15751569
>the seed of degeneracy germinated back in the '60s
Try 1776

>>15751732
This is more or less the problem with WN and antisemitism. Instead of trying to attack their enemies at a weak point, they attack a target that the system is very ready for and discredits them to the normal person.

>>15751766
Okay. Then address the Jew in front of a large group of people and see what the reaction is. If the Jew does not care then someone likely will. Whether or not you believe in race, others do - and the popular belief drives a legitimacy to the notion even if the biology were not there. Biologists consider the Mt. Graham Red Squirrel to be a separate and distinct specie from Red Squirrel and there is zero detectable biological difference. Consistency in application of science would dictate that we are not only different races from each other, but also distinctly separate species.

>>15751770
>that they couldnt give a fuck about their roots
Then why is their tendency to congregate socially, politically, and professionally so strong?

>>15751693
Interesting you only include caucasoids there, is it because you don't want people to see that there's an obvious cluster within caucasoids and even moreso relative to non-caucasoids?

>>15751821
Because they act in self interest and they are good at it. Thats like asking why asian people have the biggest incomes in usa and are overrepresented in universities

>>15751770
You're kidding right? Their ethnocentric nepotism is legendary.

>>15751948
It's precisely not like that since asians are discriminated against so that they're not overrepresented, while Jews are massively overrepresented

>>15751693

>>15751648
That's some serious mental gymnastics.

You're either being disengenous (most likely) or overthinking things. As the war against whites becomes more and more obvious, those whites who wake up will have little difficulty accepting the truth about jewish influence. Those that don't wake up — or accept their subjugation — can't be saved. Regardless of how effectively jews avoid criticism in the moment, the day is fast approaching when anti-whiteness reaches critical mass and the fence so many are sitting on collapses.

>>15748743
what was it the US? .4% of the population?

>>15749453
i hate this word too it's basically meaningless, it always implies shady backroom deals that can never be corroborated.

>>15751980
the point is that both asians and jews got into good positions without some conspiracy. high iq + strong family bonds + being good at high positions

>>15752137
And his point is that this doesn't actually hold for Asian Americans. MacDonald also explicitly denies the existence of any type of conspiracy in the introduction.

>>15752137
That is your point yes, but it's not true

>>15750210
>Proof that this discredits my point?
that was a reference to the holy day example you gave
>Bloviating attempt as discrediting intelligence.
The comment was about your position, not your intelligence. No reason to get defensive over it.
>This is your premise, not mine.
So you think that Jewish people have certain phrases they use regardless of what language they speak or what country they were raised up? How does that make any sense.
>If I hear certain phrases like, "If you have three carrots stuck in your but then you pull them out one at a time" then I know that there is a good chance that I am speaking to a Romanian.
Which is the reason I brought up Israel, phraseology is relative to language or country of origin. The reason Romanians use certain phrases is because that's how people in Romania speak. If you are ethnically Romanian but you are born in America, you wouldn't know any Romanian phrases. Similarly, a Jew who is born in America doesn't know any Israeli phrases.
>Then please, state your case.
The Jewish Question isn't real. Here you go.

>the rich need to pay for their crimes
>the public: YES!

>and most of those rich people are jewish
>the public: wait a second

>>15750873
Yeah nothing to do with Jews at all. Its not like Jewish zionists are trying to self fulfill prophecies from the Torah that say Jews will own everything in the future and use noahides as slaves once the mosiach comes.

>>15751693
Jewishness is more than just a ethnicity, it is a spirituality and morality. Gentiles can be spiritual Jews. Matter of fact even the Talmud says it.

>>15753219
so does evola

>>15753134
I thought we weren't supposed to trust what Jews say though?

>>15751693
>literally obvious distribution of genetic markers over 'subjective' ethnic groups AND 'subjective' races
>THIS PROVES RACE ISN'T REAL

this is why we have to kill leftists

>>15751693
>>15751942
>>15751981
the clusters of genetic markers literally form a map analogous to the geography of the Earth
even the scale of the groups is analogous to the scale of the land they live in

how much more fucking retarded can leftists get???

>>15751770
>no nepotism!
<produce long lists of proof with visual aids showing severe overrepresentation of jews
>that doesn't count because it's not a source I like and I'm too lazy and retarded to verify it myself, therefore jewish nepotism is impossible!

>>15753416
Yuri Bezmenov is a meme

>>15751799
>This is more or less the problem with WN and antisemitism
Oh that's the problem
Not that what they're saying isn't true?

Notice how you totally sidestep testing that hypothesis while declaring an opinion which depends on the result.

>>15751948
>Because they act in self interest and they are good at it
do you have any proof or reasoning?
No.
You don't even have a model to justify your bias when the overrepresentation logically justifies the opposite bias alone, and further inquiry proves it absolutely true

>>15752042
This is the truth

>>15752149
>strong family bonds
careful there retard, you are coming dangerously close to admitting racial nepotism

>>15753478
at least he's an honest and true meme
look at the kind of meme you are

>>15747621
Murdoch Murdoch are kinda wignats, but their fan site has a lot of good resources on stuff like this including CofC for download.

>>15753514
I'm an extremely based meme

>>15753545
>le reaction face
you are literally schizophrenic
you imagine these characters in these memes being on your side every time you post them
you also imagine yourself as being them

in your short circuited NPC brain you think this gives you social status and makes you more correct

you are literally schizophrenic and a low IQ NPC on top of it

>>15753488
>Not that what they're saying isn't true?
It depends on what you're talking about. Claims about a white majority becoming a minority, anti-white media, many elite Jews in positions of power/influence, etc. are generally true. This does not mean their whole worldview is correct, since their narratives fall apart upon further inspection. But that has nothing to do with my point which centered on the complete detachment from political reality that WNs and antisemites live in.

>>15753558
>Why yes, I'm a paranoid schizophrenic who believes that I am actually the memes that I post, how could you tell?

>>15753578
>I LOVE POSTING ON THE INTERNET WITH ALL MY BEST FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN MY MEME FOLDER
>THEY ALWAYS SUPPORT ME NO MATTER WHAT I SAY
>LALALA LA LALALALA

>>15753571
>admitting several core biases of "WNs and antisemites" are true
>also claim they live in "complete detachment from political reality"
what's it called in gymnastics when the guy splits his body in two and does two different moves at the same time?
because that's what you're doing in mental gymnastics

>>15753571
>political reality
please don't let the explanation for this just be a convoluted "you gotta be popular to be correct"

>>15753600
Yes.

>>15753619
The claims being true doesn't then make everything else about that worldview correct and all phenomenon which they claim is caused by Jews can easily be explained by other factors. WNs don't have any understanding of the political.

>>15753634
It isn't, there are things which are unpopular which are correct, but there also needs to be a way for your politics to gain popularity amongst a portion of the masses.

>>15753667
>there also needs to be a way for your politics to gain popularity amongst a portion of the masses
why?
what portion?
is the truth not enough?

what if you don't want "the masses" to join you? what if they are antithetical to your wellbeing?

this smacks of the old quacking "we gotta keep everything together like it is and everyone has to like us"

>>15753728
>"we gotta keep everything together like it is and everyone has to like us"
If you want to keep everything like it is, then mass support is irrelevant since elites are managing society like that and you would have no ability to interrupt that. Only through considerable mass support is interrupting the elite status quo possible. Truth is subjective in politics, what's far more powerful is self interest, which is ultimately the basis for all politics.

>>15753821
>Only through considerable mass support is interrupting the elite status quo possible
what is "considerable"
why?

Truth is not subjective ever. Truth is objective reality.

>>15753833
North of 33% of the population at least. If you're asking why, then you don't understand politics, shit doesn't just happen, it's a powergrab. Truth hardly matters in politics, what's best differs depending on what group you belong to. What's good for a rich Jewish businessman is bad for white working class people, but might be good for a homosexual professional class Mexican. Objective truths are few and far between in politics.

>>15753879
If you can't answer why, then you don't understand what the words coming out of your mouth mean.

>>15753991
You don't understand politics, it's about competing interests, not some abstract of 'truth'. More people backing your cause, the better since that means more leverage.

>>15747643
This book is amazing.

>>15753659
Read the book this thread is about then get back to us

>>15754828
I already have, MacDonald's central claim is correct, but is still inadequate. He relies on the idea that white elites are too individualistic, thus were able to be subverted by Jews, which is laughable on its face.

>>15747700
you wish you were Aryan mut

>>15751716
>reading books

>>15755321
Get the fuck out from this board then

>>15750046
Kek

>>15755503
Shut up liberal

>>15747621

oy vey

>>15754854
Why

shalom

>>15758263