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>>15691377
How do I access this. Sounds interesting.

>>15691615
username genesis
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>>15691377
Also how does the thought of Boko Haram differ from other radical Islamist sects?

>>15691626
Boko Haram is a wilayat (province) of the Islamic State, so they are more extreme than al-Qaeda and its ally al-Shabbab. Their thought is basically the same as IS with their own oddities. They especially dislike Western education (it's in the name). You can read about some of the things Abubakr Shekau the leader has said about science here:
http://www.aymennjawad.org/21623/abu-bakr-shekau-in-his-own-words-translation

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>>15691377
What is your position on Radical Islamism?

>>15692129
I'm sympathetic to it

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>>15692175
I'd love to hear why if you've got the time. I'm genuinely interested in your position.

>>15692198
Everything clicked in my head several years ago when I first read from the speeches and writings of Osama bin Laden. Around that time, I knew obviously that the truth wasn't that the terrorists simply hate freedom, but that 9/11 happened as a retaliation for American imperialism, though I still disagreed with the killing of civilians. But I realized from reading his arguments that if you support the killing of Muslims with your tax dollars and with your vote, then you can hardly be considered a non-combatant. And everything started to make sense to me in light of the fact that al-Qaeda had attacked such prominent economic symbols as the WTC and in America of all places and not just some random nation that did little to harm Muslims like Sweden. This and reading the very cogent arguments he makes made me realize that bin Laden was not, as many non-Muslims say, an evil madman with an irrational hatred for all things Western, and he was not just a Kharijite, since his arguments have a basis in classical Islamic thought. So since I was "radicalized" through bin Laden, my sympathies are mainly towards al-Qaeda and I agree with the strategy of al-Suri. I think IS goes too far in terms of takfir, and though their state project was quite exciting in how successful it was initially, its eventually failure ultimately proved al-Qaeda right. I never really had a naive faith that they could take on the entire world, and reading a lot of first hand accounts, their state was never really as rosy as they portrayed it. They were very hasty in implementing the hudud for propaganda purposes and showed little concern for evidence, as did Boko Haram. There are many, many valid criticisms you can make of these groups from an Islamic perspective, but most of the criticisms simply don't hold up under the slightest scrutiny, and even if they're imperfect, they're doing a lot more the ummah than anyone else.

>>15692482
What's your opinion on:
>migrants-turned Islamic extremists in non-Muslim areas that even isis doesn't claim, like France and England? Do you see Western governments as legitimate in the persecution of Muslims living in their territory similar to how al-Qaeda aligned militias persecute non-Muslims?
>the odd crossover between Islamic extremism and the American far-right?

>>15692482
>its eventually failure ultimately proved al-Qaeda right is
I don't see how you can believe this. IS was defeated by outside forces alone. That is also happening to fellow defector Jolani. The only difference between the cases is the intensity and time preference of their adversaries. So the political reality is a question of velocity alone. In the ideological realm, the uncompromising and reductionist execution of Salafism is absolute kino. There is nothing in AQ ideology that compares to "the extinction of the grey zone" or al-Silsilat al-Takfir or implementation group-level hudud which solved the Draconian punishment problem

>>15692558
>>migrants-turned Islamic extremists
IS discouraged Muslims from migrating to non-Islamic countries, and I don't believe they should do so either.
>>Do you see Western governments as legitimate in the persecution of Muslims living in their territory similar to how al-Qaeda aligned militias persecute non-Muslims?
No. The difference between Western persecution of Muslims and what al-Qaeda does is that while Western nations are concerned with preserving their own hegemony, their economic interests, and their worldly security, al-Qaeda is concerned with making the religion of Allah supreme and securing people's afterlife.
>>the odd crossover between Islamic extremism and the American far-right?
Can you clarify what exactly you mean by this?

>>15692613
>There is nothing in AQ ideology that compares to "the extinction of the grey zone"
This is not true. Bin Laden was talking about how the world is now divided into only two camps long before IS.

>>15692482
Thanks for responding anon :)

Do you guys think I should buy a kindle oasis or paperwhite, or some other e-reader?

>>15692770
I have a Paperwhite that I got as a gift a few years ago and it's still pretty nice. I think it was pretty cheap too.

>>15692715
>Can you clarify what exactly you mean by this?
Groups like Atomwaffen have a weird overlap where their members play around with Islamic extremist ideas. Frankly I think the Western far right and Islamic extremists would be natural allies if Muslims hadn't spent the past 5 years pouring into their countries and sperging out.

>>15692715
>This is not true. Bin Laden was talking about how the world is now divided into only two camps long before IS.
Dividing the world in two parts is not a new idea, obviously. The extinction of the grey zone is an article not about dividing the world in groups, but about polarizing the groups until the gradient that connects them is no longer. It's an accelerationist idea. There is nothing like it in AQ ideology, and it's doubtful someone like Bin Laden or Awlaki would stand for it in the first place.

>>15692788
A pseud would say something about Hegel and Nietzsche here. They overlap in ideology and in aims because they want the same polar and absolute world. It's not that complex or exciting. Most IS ideology can be interpreted in WN terms.

>>15692795
>polarizing the groups until the gradient that connects them is no longer.
That was part of the idea behind the 9/11 attacks though. It's more developed in IS writings, sure, but they ultimately get this idea from AQ and they quote bin Laden on the two camps in relation to it.

>reads book on Boko Haram (‘books are evil’)

>>15692986
The name means 'Western education is forbidden'

>>15692999
I was under the impression “boko” was a transliteration of “book”

>>15693009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram#Name

>>15693024
interesting!

>>15692482
>though I still disagreed with the killing of civilians.
Oh, you´re too virtious!
>We worship death, not life!
Said Bin Laden.

Please repent, may god show you the right path.

>>15693146
>>We worship death, not life!
>Said Bin Laden
The quote is "We love death as you love your life."

>>15692482
>But I realized from reading his arguments that if you support the killing of Muslims with your tax dollars and with your vote, then you can hardly be considered a non-combatant.
Yes this is completely true along with the rest of your post but this is the key here. More than 1/3 of America does not vote or consent to the actions of its government and a 1/2 don't make enough money to pay taxes. The simple answer to this is that America is not a democracy and Bin Laden was mistaken to take propaganda at face value.

>>15694356
>a 1/2 don't make enough money to pay taxes
That's just federal income tax. And those generally aren't the type who worked in the WTC and who work in the Pentagon.

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