/lit/ - Literature

>>15661095
if it doesnt have the sections on artillery and fortifications it's a garbage edition

>>15661105
Now I'm scared

>>15661095
>eastern author
Who asked though

>Book 6: Avoiding Excess

based and preordered

>>15661396
Oxford did, a place whose single individual scholars are smarter than you and your peer group combined.

>>15661944
>a place whose single individual scholars are smarter than you and your peer group combined.
>Oxford
kek

>>15661095
>ethical
>political

yeah this get the bourgeois humanists wet. too bad it is retarded to analyze the society through this.

>>15661972
Elaborate

>>15661095
Thanks for alerting me to this.

>>15661967
>Tries to be mocking, ends up looking even more retarded

>>15661095
A strong refutation of Confucius.

>>15661967
Yes.

>Table of Contents
Acknowledgements
Introduction
Note on the Translation
Select Bibliography
Chronology
Maps
Part I: Miscellaneous Essays
Book 4: Models and Standards
Book 5: Seven Worries
Book 6: Avoiding Excess
Book 7: Three Disputations
Part II: The Triads
Books 8-10: Promoting the Worthy
Books 11-13: Identifying Upward
Books 14-16: Inclusive Care
Books 17-19: Condemning Aggression
Books 20-21: Moderation in Use
Book 25: Moderation in Burial
Books 26-28: Heaven's Intent
Book 31: Understanding Ghosts
Book 32: Condemning Music
Books 35-37: Condemning Fatalism
Part III: Condemning the Erudites
Book 39: Condemning the Erudites
Part IV: The Dialectics
Books 40-43: The Canons and Explanations
Book 44: The Greater Selection
Book 45: The Lesser Selection
Part V: The Dialogues
Book 46: Geng Zhu
Book 47: Valuing Righteousness
Book 48: Gong Meng
Book 49: The Questions of Lu
Book 50: Gongshu
Explanatory Notes
Glossary
Appendix: The Chronology of the Triads
Index

>>15662045
>>15662057
It's just a uni, friends.

mozi in the original is excrutiating, can't remember what he actually talks about, nice cover tho

also, it's very gay that the translator went with "inclusive care" rather than "universal love", terrible meme, idk why it's no longer expected that translators be decent writers with a feeling for language

>>15661944
>*takes over the labour party in your path*

>>15662296
Can a noob read this without having read other philosophers before?

>>15661095
that looks great anon. added to wishlist

>>15662345
You should read Confucius and Laozi before reading this.

>>15662642
Y?

>>15662077
>Book 31: Understanding Ghosts
Sounds spooky.

>>15662296
here's an example of mozi's tedious writing style if you want a taster

https://ctext.org/mozi/canon-i

>>15662045
>>15662057
Cope!

>>15662905
>31.1 Why have things come to this? It is because everyone is doubtful and suspicious on the question of whether ghosts and spirits exist or not, and do not clearly understand that ghosts and spirits are able to reward the worthy and punish the wicked.
The rest of the chapter is anecdotes of ghosts rewarding or punishing people. Kinda boring.

>>15663028
I want to be rewarded by a ghost.

>>15662121
>i-it's just academia!
The ultimate cope of the pseud.

>>15661944
>Oxford did, a place whose single individual scholars are smarter than you and your peer group combined
>t. someone enrolled at a shit community college in some flyover state

I have no doubt that Oxford has some of the best scholars in the world in any particular field you might want to consider, but that caliber of scholarship is probably not a rare as you think. For instance, if you live in the US and you live in any of the the mid-to-high population states then your state university probably has programs and departments that can compete with schools like Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, etc. Not in every field, of course, but certainly some of them. For instance, I live outside of Seattle. The local university, the University of Washington in Seattle has one of the best Mathematical Biology departments in the world (and by some accounts it is the best). Similarly, the University of Washington has one of the top Applied Math and one of the top Computer Science departments in the world. If you live in any sort of coastal are or in the great lake region, then you could probably find similar stats for at least one of your local universities. For instance, UC Irvine, CUNY, UNC Chapel Hill, UW Madison, UCLA, the College of William and Mary, and UMCP are all different public universities scattered across the country that can easily compete with or beat Oxford/Oxbridge/Cambridge/UCL or the Ivy League in at least some fields of study. Obviously schools like Hard or Oxford still tend to excel across the board, but ultimately they aren't exceptional or completely unique.

My point for saying all this, is that if you went to a large state university or you live near one, then the odds are overwhelmingly high that you have studied with, been taught by, or otherwise interacted with professors or grad student who were just as smart as Richard Dawkins or Stephen Hawking or any other celebrity academic who works at one of these big universities.

>>15663770
you have no life
and you'll never amount to anything
you are too full of yourself

>>15663770
>UC Irvine
ZOT ZOT HURR ANTEATERS FOREVER
The computer science program was honestly pretty ass (though some professors are enormously knowledgeable and helpful), but I took a political science 101 course where we read Machiavelli, Locke, Rousseau, Mill, and Marx. Awesome class.

>>15664497
But he's right, coming from someone at one of those elite schools

>>15663770
I really would like to know where a good US philosophy programm is that sets understanding of Kant, german idealism, philosophy of language, logic and such as a prerequisite and then through perhaps Hegelian thought explores 20th century philosophy, that wielded great influence outside of the Analytical schools, and then finally reach at the now with Philosophy; not just creating a new atmosphere of reinterpreting Kant or whoever, but philosophy now and forward. Make actual philosophers, not just erudite philologists who hyperfocus on one subject at some point and deviate from being philosophers.

>>15661944
>Oxford did, a place whose single individual scholars are smarter than you and your peer group combined.

take it easy BUCKO!

>>15664497
What the fuck are you even talking about? I think you're projecting anon. I never even claimed to go to any of those schools - and I don't. I go to a small liberal arts college that you probably haven't heard of.

It's simply an objective fact that you can get an education comparable to the Ivy League or Oxford/Oxbridge at just about any state school. Now does that mean that a state school like UC Irvine or UW Madison is as good as Harvard or Yale? Certainly not. On the whole Yale is obviously a much better school than UW Madison. That being said, a school like UW Madison or UCLA or UNC Chapel Hill can easily still be a top 25, a top 10, or even a top 5 university within a particular field. You may not believe that or agree with it, but if that's the case then you're just an uneducated loser without any experience in higher education.

I don't understand why this is hard for you to understand or why you think I'm tooting my own horn. As I said before, I literally go to a small liberal arts college that you've probably never heard of because it's not very big, important, or special. I'll admit it: I'm not going to a great school. I'm not going to one of the schools I'm talking about. However they do fucking exist, and that shouldn't be a controversial statement and it shouldn't be hard for you to believe. If you really want to, you can just pick a random subject an search "top 10 US X departments" (where X is a subject of your choice). Honestly though, if you have ever read a contemporary research monograph, anthology, any academic journal, or if you had even just taken the time to apply to grad school, none of this would be news to you.

If you unironically think that schools like Oxford and Harvard are filled with geniuses that just completely shit on every other university, then you're simply mistaken. Oxford is certainly one of the best schools in the world, but there are plenty of great academics and scholars at other universities across the world, and in many cases the "#1 expert" on a particular topic could as easily be working at a school like CUNY as a school like Princeton. If you aren't aware of that or you disagree, then like I said before, the only reason would be that you're actually an uneducated retard who is talking out of his ass.

>>15665269
Unironically kino post.

>>15661095
>Essential
The full text has been available for a long time, if you don't know and you're shilling some paperback shit, you don't belong here
>>15662046
Mozi predates Kongzi

>>15661095
The Chinese Marx

>>15665294
>Born in what is now Tengzhou, Shandong Province, he founded the school of Mohism that argued strongly against Confucianism and Taoism.

>>15665310
Read the text and sources rather than some shitty wiki

>>156653
He BTFO Confuscian?

>>15665310
See
>>15665589

>>15661095
There's already a complete translation by Columbia University Press.