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15656660 No.15656660[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>the future communists want is... a bunch of primitivist ethno-nation-states?

>> No.15656675

Not literature related

Also indigenous land is beyond stupid since every indigenous group at one time migrated to their land and had struggles over who was to control it. No group is indigenous, just old enough where we think they were the first.

>> No.15656678

>>15656660
ethnonationalists sneaking their way into the left has been a problem for a while now

>> No.15656684

>>15656660
Is this what /lit/ is now? Just reddit or twitter screencaps obviously trying to stir up emotions? Where the hell are the jannies when you need them?

>> No.15656693 [DELETED] 

>>15656684
>Is this what /lit/ is now?
Yes, either go along in or get the fuck out

>> No.15656705

>>15656684
>Is this what /lit/ is now?
Yes, either go along with it or get the fuck out

>> No.15656715

>>15656660
https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s0DqaW8HoOlh

>> No.15656722

>>15656715
nobody is clicking that

>> No.15656727

>>15656705
I'm about to Derrida your anus pal.

>> No.15656728

I unironically want a benevolent brave new world government ran the United States

>> No.15656729

>>15656705
sad

>> No.15656734

>>15656660
Does this board even have mods?

>> No.15656752

>>15656715
have sex

>> No.15656789

>leftists don't know that the "indigines" were brutally genociding one another in wars where mass torture and terror were completely normalized, right before we showed up

The noble Indian... He cry a tear when he see a trash....

>> No.15656802

>>15656789
It's true, this is why we need a globalist government to make sure that nobody is genociding each other

>> No.15656807

>>15656802
what?

>> No.15656812

>>15656807
We need a global federation to protect vulnerable communities from being genocided

>> No.15656821

>>15656812
why?

>> No.15656825

literally yes. it's the only plausible resistance against globohomo neoliberal leviathan
>>15656728
you should be murdered

>> No.15656827

>>15656821
Cause I am gay and like to suck off niggers

>> No.15656828

>>15656812
He's right you know.

I propose that we follow the Star Trek darkest timeline model and all bow to Europa.

>> No.15656833

>>15656821
Because it's necessary. International law works, we need to go further

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>>15656705
With /lit/s current user base is actually true. Someone help.

>> No.15656838

>>15656715
BASED

>> No.15656846

>>15656802
start by sending every neoconservative to the hague and hang them one by one for crimes against the iraqi people

>> No.15656853

>>15656833
and also because I am gay and like to suck off niggers as they tongue my anus.

>> No.15656856

>>15656789
>>15656802
>female "logic"

>> No.15656861

>>15656660
>Chapo
Exclusively LARPers. Disregard anything they say.

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>>15656856
>>15656853
>>15656846
The only fascist solution is the globalist solution, nationalism is weak and impotent.

>> No.15656877

So will only euros be in europe?

>> No.15656883

>>15656862
The only solution is internationalism

>> No.15656889

>>15656883
Global federation ran by competent people

>> No.15656916

>>15656889
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.15656924

>>15656660
Could you at least be a little industrious and try to tie this into 'The Communist Manifesto' to make it board-relevant?

>> No.15656930

>>15656916
The only people who are scared of globalism are impotent fascist states and religious nutjobs

>> No.15656938

>>15656924
No. I'll make this with the least amount of effort possible, and when I'm banned I'll just hack the mainframe and be back in 5 minutes. You can't stop me

>> No.15656942

>>15656930
Lol. Terrible bait.

>> No.15656945

>>15656938
Based.

>> No.15656951
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>>15656930
and non retards

>> No.15656981

>>15656930
/lit/ is full of commies and fascists. They both fear the neolib chad.

>> No.15656988

>>15656951
>change is scary
No substance, just reactionary and boring. Also internationalism doesn't mean cultural homogenization, different geographical areas will always have their own unique cultures and ways of doing things.

>> No.15656996

>>15656938
And thereby seizing the means of production of threads. OK, I'm on board.

>> No.15657001

>>15656951
Whats this from?

>> No.15657003

>>15656988
Reminder that when leftist chads take over your country you'll be purged.

>> No.15657020

>>15656951
english being the end of history lingua franca proves we already live in the gayest hell imaginable, the worst of all possible universes.

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>>15656988
>Also internationalism doesn't mean cultural homogenization

>> No.15657044

>>15656988
The only aspects of culture that are kept are those in line with the neolibtard dogma, so the most passive and dispassionate artifacts of the past, extricated from all historical context. I bet you thought Brave New World was a utopia. HA!

>> No.15657052

>>15657038
If your culture involves throwing homosexuals off rooftops then yes, that will be ironed out by international law.

>> No.15657060

>>15657052
>Islam bad
NPC.jpg

>> No.15657063

>>15657044
Not everything deserves to be preserved

>> No.15657071

>>15656715
kek

>> No.15657076

>>15657060
I have no problem with Islam, it's only the violence and oppression I'm against.

>> No.15657086

>>15657076
Shut the fuck up. You're literally the generic libshit. Stop trying to force Islam into your godawful ideology and let them be.
Personally I'm against everything that modern Islam stands for but I don't bitch about it online.

>> No.15657088

>>15657076
>I have no problem with Islam except its central beliefs
Based

>> No.15657108

>>15657086
I already said that I'm not interested in exterminating Islam or any other religion, but there are things which shouldn't be tolerated anywhere in the world. Frankly I don't care if something is traditional, Islam can function without stoning gay people to death

>> No.15657116

>>15657076
>Noo not the Gayinos

>> No.15657123

>>15657108
Tough, libshit.

>> No.15657136

>>15657116
It's not even about the gays, it's the people who want to enforce oppressive and violent things that need to be neutered and left powerless.

>> No.15657140

>>15656715
Dude

>> No.15657145

>>15657123
Islam is liberalizing and this is a good thing, just like the liberalization of Christianity has been a good thing unless you think the never ending protestant and catholic wars were good.

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>>15657001
Mishima, Aesthetic Terrorist

>> No.15657176

>>15657076
So youre against islam

>> No.15657221

>>15657176
To be fair there are reprehensible things in both the Bible and the Quran. I don't care about preserving doctrinal purity in religions, most Islamic people are good and interpret their scriptures in a positive way, the same can be said about Christians, I draw the line when they enact crimes against other people.

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>>15656715

>> No.15657253

>>15657246
what did he mean by this?

>> No.15657255

>>15657136
Civilization is built on oppression and violence and you can't escape it, and societies that are based on liberty and equality are violent too.

>> No.15657267

>>15656660
>nation-states
No? Just genocide the mutts and let native American fauna take their place.

>> No.15657277

>>15656715
HE'S BACK

>> No.15657384

>>15657255
Violence is necessary I agree, but only so far as there are violent people. I have no problem with enacting violence against violent people.

>> No.15657445

>>15656715
based

>> No.15657462

>>15657052
nobody throws fags off rooftops except our dear friends the saudis

>> No.15657484

>>15656660
Chapofags are liberals LARPing as communists

>> No.15657537

>>15657221
Yeah you're elevating western liberal individualist values over all others. Your definition of "good Islamic people" is western consumers that just happen to be brown and just happen to go to a Mosque instead of a Church. This is global homogenization. The only cultural diversity that will be preserved in this model is the most outward and immediately apparent aspects of culture, such as what spices they put on food and what tonal range they prefer in music. This is because western liberals are incapable of taking seriously the idea of human difference, though this should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

"Why will diversity work? Because we're all the same!"

>> No.15657544

>>15657484
The Chapo podcast and Chapo redditors hate each other now. The podcasts hosts think the redditors are a bunch of LARPing radlibs and the Chapo subreddit think the hosts are a bunch of yucky white class reductionists/strasserites because they talk shit about White Fragility.

>> No.15657559

>>15657544
Leftists eating their own ?!

>> No.15657560

>>15656715
ho-lee shiet

>> No.15657577

>>15657544
Chapo was always just another one of these internet outfits cashing in on making fun of the pathetic state of the Democrats. Their angle is to hit from the left, but it's the same business model as every other podcast and youtuber making bank bashing Dems.

>> No.15657578

>>15656660
>Give the land back to the Natives
>Natives are 0.001% of the population

I think it's too late.

>> No.15657584

>>15657537
He's unconsciously a corporate shill. Willing to accept everyone into the system so long as they adhere to a Western ideal; and if they don't, they can be shaped to be a better consumer.

>> No.15657601

>>15657076
>I don't hate dogs, I only hate barking and biting.

>> No.15657623

>>15657537
>Yeah you're elevating western liberal individualist values over all others
Why does being communitarian have to involve stoning gay people to death? Some values are objectively better.

>> No.15657634

>>15657601
Not all Islamic people are violent though, a lot of them are very liberal and lovely

>> No.15657644

>>15657577
I agree, most of the show is pretty lame. Most of the leftist podcasting scene consists of irony poisoned urbanites being strung along by a handful of total pseuds.
But I do think Matt Christman is actually a very interesting thinker even though he looks like a onions elemental. Brace and Amber are also tolerable.

>> No.15657662

>>15657584
I simply believe that violent people will be dealt with violently, it's the natural law after all.

>> No.15657666

>>15657634
So theyre just brown liberals.

>> No.15657669

>>15657634
>Islam
>liberal
Pick one. Islam is both a religion and a form of government, said government being inherently illiberal. American Muslims have managed to No-True-Scotsman their way out of it, despite it coming right from the horse's mouth

>> No.15657676

>>15657669
Christianity isn't liberal either, but Vatican II was largely successful

>> No.15657680

>>15656715
based bronx poster

>> No.15657687

>>15657666
What's wrong with being brown?

>> No.15657691

the person who made this reddit post is wh*te

>> No.15657717

>>15657634
TOP KEK. Reminds me of this small interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FtjtF4gM0

>> No.15657718
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>>15656675
The Left can't meme. That's not even vaguely funny or interesting, just vaguely threatening. No wonder he Left is against free speech, they cannot compete in an honest meme war.

>> No.15657731

>>15657718
Rightoids tell themselves that they can meme and then listen to Nick Fuentes

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>> No.15657747

>>15657731
Who the hell is Nick Fuentes? And really, who cares? Never heard of her...

>> No.15657843

>>15657687
Nothing, just go be brown in India/S.Am/ME and make those places better — stop flooding into white nations.

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>>15657731
Any in the 'dissident right' who sitll think 'right-wing' matters and aren't on the ethnocentric and/or third-positionist train are still behind the curve.

>> No.15657948

>>15657623
>>15657634
>>15657687
>>15657384
As a rightoid I've come to understand why some leftists are obsessed with indigenous people and multiculturalism. They're actually fighting for a good cause; to protect foreign-ness from libshits.

Some people itt also really expose the radical violence of a seemingly inoffensive doctrine like western liberalism. They deny the moral status, existence, and agency of their real enemies by reducing what amounts their destruction and erasure to a matter of course or economic necessity. Liberalism's language amounts the most thorough and consistent dehumanization possible. We don't have the Department of War because we don't believe in war, but we have the Department of Defense because all of our enemies, being outlaws of humanity, must by necessity be the aggressors!

This of course is related to the entirely imperial nature of liberalism, because every human body on earth is a potential Individual. With this liberalism lays not only a potential economic and political claim to every society, which is as far as those on the "right" typically go, but moral and psychological claims as well. Since liberals cannot justify wars based on backwards things like expansionism and political expedience, they have to convince themselves that their hostility is actually for their enemies. With this any resistance to their projects is immediately recasted as either delusion or Evil, and this is all for the psychological comfort of the liberals.

BTW this take is an obvious ripoff of Schmitt but I hadn't seen how right he was until seeing some of the responses in here

>> No.15657980

>>15656660

It's kinda funny throughout history the leaders and ideologies and movements which had the clearest most succinct goals in mind are always the ones that now are completely demonized
The only reason Communism has avoided this fate is entirely due to it's own vague nature capitalism is the same it's not that the effects aren't there not that they haven't been seen it's that people must always believe they can be different
Humanity will always resist clear cut and distinct action as soon as someone tries to do real work cuts all pretense and theory and tries to just make something happen they become the enemy

>> No.15658063

>>15657948
Liberal internationalism might seem dehumanizing and violent if you're a bad person, I completely understand but I don't grant you any sympathy. Some people aren't happy unless they're able to subjugate and violate supposed enemy groups, and it requires violence from a larger stronger authority to prevent which is ultimately going to be required.

>> No.15658282

>>15657948
There is no rightoid, or liberals, or leftists. There is only Capitalism. Political economy is just the formalization of the movement of the Capital.

>> No.15658397

>>15656715
I'm only doing it ironically retard.

>> No.15658414

>>15656715
Underrated.

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>>15656715

>> No.15658436

>>15656715
Gb2reddit
Have sex
Cope

Yeah thats a rent free buddy oof