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the freedom to associate is also the freedom to disassociate

>>15622961
Is it?

Your diary.

Leviticus 18:22

>>15622951
1 Corinthians 6:9-10

>>15622951
It's much easier to argue for homosexual rights than it is to argue against it. Aside from dogma (ie a few line from the Holy Bible) there really isn't an argument against homosexuality if:

a. you understand it to be a genetic/epigenetic condition that is out of the control of the individual
b. only a small number of individuals are ever homosexual in a population
c. homosexuality is a phenomena that has always occurred in human populations

Instead of stressing yourself out over arguing against homosexuality, think about how homosexuality can be appropriately incorporated into a societal structure. Also think about homosexuality might be an evolutionary adaptation and how homosexuals might benefit society (noncompetitive caregivers for heterosexual families, people who don't have children and so are able to invest their energies and resources into the betterment of society etc.)

Behavioural critiques may be appropriate (ie indecent public displays of sexuality), but these behaviours are not essential to homosexuality.

>>15622964
Did he stutter?

>>15622951
their behavior lends to social dysfunction and they have higher rates of drug abuse, domestic abuse, and STDs. As Peter Wood points out many societies where homosexuality is institutionalized across several generations eventually end up in a situation in which a relationship close to pedastry is increasingly normalized and where women are delegated to a smaller and lesser role in society.


It is simply corrosive to society and the social fabric and its legitimization and validation only lend credence to breaking the social fabric and going even further to even more destructive behaviors.

>>15623060
It's fairly easy to argue against homosexuals being able to adopt kids.
And if they can't adopt, there's no reason for them to marry, because marriage has no social value if the couple can't raise kids.

>>15623060
they can't be incorporated into the societal structure without changing the structure itself, and a change like that would make things worse.

>>15622951
I always felt in Lockean liberalism that homosexual rights contradicts human rights. This is definitely more rousseauian

>>15623119
Marriage has no value to begin with, if we're being honest here. The majority of people do it for tax purposes and because they feel like they have to.
>>15623131
>they can't be incorporated into the societal structure
What are you talking about? It's just a preference of who they want to have sex with. It doesn't impact anyone in any kind of way. They've already been incorporated, because they're just like you but like the same gender.

>>15623176
Incorrect, validating, and legitimizing them allows the conception of the proper family to be completely warped and destroyed which inevitably only adds to the social and familial dysfunction that is already present in society. They also abuse drugs, abuse their partners and contract STDs at higher rates than literally everyone else. Their behavior is corrosive and destructive not only to themselves, but to the social fabric and therefore larger society.

People who spend an entire month participating in a parade celebrating hedonism by waving their dicks around in public and wearing latex suits on a parade float are not "just like me". People who demand that programs be made to teach school kids about homosexual behavior in relation to sex among other things are not "just like me".

>>15622951
If everyone were gay, humanity would die. Surely that's not a good thing. Therefore, you should not be gay.

>>15623200
Devo was right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jkOknWmMh4

>>15622961
That's not how Civil Rights law works mate.

>>15623176
It does actually impact everyone, because everyone is forced to accept their deviation from the normal as normal. It doesn't stop there, we also have to reform our society to cater to them; thus, they are anti-social and lead to the destabilization of society, just as the Christians (although I am Christian) would've been called anti-social and dangerous by Romans in the far past. This doesn't mean I should allow the homosexuals to turn our current society upside down, because I don't believe their motivation is beneficial at all. It's just more sexual promiscuity and a fucked up culture of pederasts and decadents that finds its way everywhere

>>15623091
No, but he said something with practically no thought put into it.

>>15623219
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>>15623209

>>15623176
>Marriage has no value to begin with

This is too fundamental to warrant any further writings. Sex is quite apparently for making babes. Only people seeking to defend their vices pretend otherwise.

its far more enjoyable to work through the intricacies of biblical translation to find the result that seemed most christlike all along

https://blog.smu.edu/ot8317/2016/05/11/leviticus-1822/

>>15623213
Civil rights is an affront to individual freedoms. If I decide to open my business to a certain market which is comprised of a certain demographic the state has no right to tell me I can't.

>>15623582
You won't stay in business discriminating against customers. It will work itself out.

>>15623213
the passage of the Civil Rights Act was the abolition of the constitution

>>15623594
Haha, faggot. The Middle East does this constantly and are strong enough that western secularism has to fight them through proxy wars.

Russia's a pretty big powerhouse too and look at the homo discrimination on the rise there. Your minds in a small bubble.

>>15623617
Move to the Middle East or Russia then. That's not how it works in the western world.

>>15623627
It's a fad that will pass once the actual people bankrolling these movements decline and turn on each other. Homosexuality was tolerated in the middle ages, and the consequences of such toleration ended up with a necessary snuffing out of the gays too.

>>15623674
Ah... right. It's a fad.

>>15623617
imagine getting dragged in into court for a discrimination suit and arguing that 'muh based russians do it so why shouldn't we'

underage poltard gtfo my board

>>15623687
Yes. Note that China previously tolerated homosexuality but changed its tune when it declined. Now they discriminate against gays even apart from Western Christian fashions. They don't have religious reasons for it, they just know that it's problematic.

>>15622951
dude grow up

>>15623582
>>15623599
Unironically true, but its the law now. No one would dare repeal it, so we're stuck with it until democracy ends.

>>15623594
Civil Rights law goes way beyond non-discrimination.

Defend homosexual toleration even when statistics show they number an absurdly large percentage of extremely harmful sexual degenerates, drug users, and pedophile rapists, even when they're accepted.

Michael Levin goes up against Laurence Thomas and makes the case against the rights demanded by LGBT activists.

>>15623721
WRONG
China is based and trannypilled

>>15623735
Fuck off.

>>15622961
>freedom to disassociate
SMOKE KETAMINE EVERYDAY

>>15623777
Dishonest. Peking opera has crossdressing. It's in the culture. But actual trannies have no rights.

Normally I dislike pol creeping on lit but if exposes the insanity of the liberals here why not.

>>15623176
>Marriage has no value to begin with

>>15622951
you can probably find some stuff like that in religious bookshops. i saw a book once called something like "lgbt: conspiracy against the human race". i think it was in dubai or kuala lumpur or somewhere like that.
i think there were some chick tracts and stuff like that whinging about gay people too.

the problem with homosexuality is that it doesn't fit into trad schitzos vision of a suburbia utopia where all men are in nuclear families with cute women who wear dresses and care after the children. If you're gay the actual reason that you can't do what you like at any given time in history is because of the delusions of retards.
Homos won't do anything about it tho because they're self-loathing and desire the abuse of these men who hate them. LOL

>>15623176
>Marriage has no value to begin with
he's right

>>15623119
>It's fairly easy to argue against homosexuals being able to adopt kids.
It's not, especially when you're not going to adopt the kid instead.
We all know what happened last time someone preemptively adopted to stop homosexual adoption on the grounds of bringing the kid upright, she got molested by her would be savior.

>>15623926
>LOL
go back

Righties have been here from the beginning, and now that better poltards are here, you can bet theyre here to stay.

>>15623969
this isn't 2016 retard, I'm not saying 'kek'. fuck you

>>15623448
>Sex is quite apparently for making babes.
>for
There is no evidence for this whatsoever, scientifically speaking.
Only beliebers think that "why" and "for" apply to evolution.
Evolution has no purpose until proven otherwise, all else is assumption.

>>15623599
In terms of dismantling federalism, it was one of many nails in the coffin. The supreme court ruled unanimously (Katzenbach v. McClung) that de facto all commerce is interstate commerce. And in the modern econony, that's only become more true.
In terms of individual freedoms, you're wrong. There has never been a constitutional right to operate a business. The issue was always about whether it was the states' right or Congress' right to tell you how to run your business.

>>15624001
There's no purpose in you posting retard, now stop doing it.

>>15623735
>not holding the consensus views about social issues measn you need to "grow up"

dilate

>>15623015
>>15623034
Secular arguments please

>>15624284
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>>15623200
>>15623109
>>15623745

>>15624167
>There's no purpose in you posting retard, now stop doing it.
no u