/lit/ - Literature

>>15541303
>cancelling 16th century poets
What's the point? Just enjoy it you twat, caring about the politics of century old authors will get you nowhere worthwhile.
t. irishman

>>15541303
His writing was worth more than some 100k illiterate and worthless Irish peasants you would never have heard of
There are people who make something of themselves, and there are those who are happy to be nothing, and to be forgotten
Don't cry about being a loser, just die

>>15541423
>His writing was worth more than some 100k illiterate and worthless Irish peasants

Oh please, when was the last time you read The Shepheardes Calender?

>>15541561
When was the last time you thought about the plight of the medieval Irish peasant?

>>15541575
IRISH LIVES MATTER

>>15541303
Are you bringing him up because you participated in that thread where I said Anglo-Irish literature is British not Irish?

>>15541575
>implying being a medieval peasant is bad

>>15541598
your based virgin vs. chad meme would be cool if it was actually true

>>15541630
>t. roastie jealous of finely-sculpted lithe 17yo virgins
what's your body count and how many tattoos do you have? be honest

>>15541561
I actually read The Shepheardes Calender a few years ago for a grad school class and loved it. It was instrumental in getting me interested in poetry again, and a major reason I started to write poetry again myself after a long time away from the medium.

>>15541303
Who gives a shit about what he did/say? His work is all that matters.

>>15542102
>his work is all that matters

His work included oppressing the Irish and contributing to British imperium

>>15542951
His work includes The Faerie Queene which is amazing.S, fuck off, you worthless SJW.

>>15542951
Britain didn't exist in any real form until James took the throne. Anglos and Scots were still skirmishing with eachother around the time Edmund wrote his works.

>>15541303
Bacon wrote The Faerie Queen...

http://www.sirbacon.org/mspenser.htm

>>15543032
Bacon couldn't write for shit. Analysis have shown that he's not the author behind Shakespeare.

>>15541303
Hes based Irish are subhumans. I can say this because I have a lot of Irish blood. One drop rule. Irish society is just Alcoholism and domestic violence.

>>15541423
The Irish are one of the most literary races on earth. Maybe only the Russians are better.

>>15541303
>ah-bloo-bloo

>>15541303
Spenser is nearly gone from immediate memory. I bet we could round up the people who’ve actually read him, living, and have a very small, polite convention in Seattle.

>>15543841
this may come as a shock, but there is a whole wide world outside of the borders of the united states sweaty

>>15541303
Because if we judged literature by such personal transgressions, we'd hardly have anyone left to read.

I actually want to read the faerie queene since I really liked Paradise Lost and wanna dive into another poem done epic style but I heard that the faerie queene was basically just a propaganda piece for queen elizabeth or something. Is this true? For some reason that just kinda turns me off

>>15543048
As is russian and yet— better literature than the English could ever hope to produce (minus a catholic like Shakespeare and a few of the Romantics)

>>15543874
bro it's a book. JUst fucking read it. It's not like your time is that fucking valuable. If you ahve time to post on 4channle you have time to read a fucking book. You sound like a lazy bitch faggot who's just looking for an excuse not to read

>>15543874
Even Paradise Lost was political. Though you have to squint a bit to realize it. As for Spenser, yes the books are a way to legitimize the ruling party. Not because they needed it but because he needed it. You won’t really see it in his anymore than you would have in Paradise Lost. The hero of the first book is a man. Of course, it is Protestant propaganda in the extreme but again you don’t have to let that color your reading of it. It’s a fantasy text, after all, and deeply allegorical on several levels. Characters are concepts, representing such things as ‘Faith’, ‘Error’, ‘Pride’, ‘Reason’, the True Church’ and things of the like. It’s not easy to read though, in that it’s somewhere between Chaucer and Milton with a lot of antiquated spellings and terms. But if you read it aloud and get the big red version you will be fine.

>>15543892
oh yeah? well you’re a big dumb poopy head

>>15543933
it’s nice to hear that the propaganda part isn’t the full picture of things, I’ll give it a shot then. what big red version are you talking about? i was just planning on hitting up project gutenberg and dling it from there.

>>15543959
Of course you can use a free version online. I would say 95% of the words are discernible even with their strange spellings. I haven’t read the whole thing though, it’s pretty damn long. One has to understand that the Faerie Queene, at its heart, is a story of England, of St. George and the Dragon, as so it is an extremely anti-catholic poem which does seek to legitimize Protestantism and the English royal line. If you have some knowledge of that, you will see that coming together but if you have no knowledge of it then you may not focus on it. As an allegory, you will find that it’s almost like a high school play only in the sense that the backgrounds are mere paintings, mere vehicles for the broader allegory.

I would trade Spenser for all of Ireland