/lit/ - Literature

>>15487268

>>15487268
None. They don't read because there are no respectable Ancap authors, only memes and tweets.

>>15487277
democracy: the god that failed is actually pretty good

>>1548727
>Milton Friedman
>Murry Rothbard
>Your momma

STFU there are plenty

Hayek, Rand, 101 Ways to Kill Yourself

>>15487268
Lolita

how do you explain machine produced goods being so cheap and not even turning a worthwhile profit, if any, compared to the man made goods?

>>15487268
>culls dairy herd in your path

>>15487268
None are as original or have the level of insight as leftists have with their marxists.

I remember there was a list of required readings for right wingers, although most are historical texts or cookie cutter collection of the thoughts of any standard neo-fascist. Being right wing is an untenable position, and we see this clearly as all geniuses who were right wingers (gentile, ezra pound, etc) were all wacky or eccentric whose politics would not fit or be consistent with their systems. You either force yourself into being a right winger/liberal with delusions, or perhaps closer to what pascal would call diversions, or you fall into marxism.

I will take my meds soon

>>15487629
The right is the natural order. The left is man’s ego in the egalitarian delusion. After the Great Fallout, the world will remind us that the right wing is the final state of politics

>>15487461
They are libertarian, not ancap. Don't lump us in with these retards

>>15487698
But mass delusion is the natural state of groups of human beings as well. How can anything be more natural than what is, than that which nature produced?

>>15487715
This post is cool because either a libertarian or an ancap could have written it. there is no way to know which.

Mostly economics and social science studies.
>>15487629
I hope this is bait
I wish you marx fags would fuck off back to r*ddit.

>>15487629
>You either force yourself into being a right winger/liberal with delusions, or perhaps closer to what pascal would call diversions, or you fall into marxism.
You do realise there is an entire world of political philosophy that is neither neofacism or neomarxism?

>>15487268
Pretty much Thrasymachus innthe Republic, just stop reading when Socrates refutes him.

>>15487839
What's the difference between them anyway, why do they hate each other?

>>15487844
I am not a marxist.

You do realize /lit is a socialist board with marxist sympathies or have you just came here last month on your journey from /pol? Any philosopher or academic worth their weight engages with marx. Disliking marx is literally deserved for midwits jerking off to new atheist or neoreaction pseuds

>>15487995
Your enlightenment rivals jesus

>>15487268
Straight up MAX STIRNER

>>15488026
ancaps are against the state completely god damnit, based on principles that its existence is anti-ethical

>>15487592
I can’t explain it because I have no idea what you’re babbling about

>>15487844
Even ancaps read Marx, based on the fact that he was an anarchist latter in life. Also he can give some insight into how the system operates and how to bring it down. If you want to be an insurgent or revolutionary, you kinda have to understand extremism from all sides.

>>15487592
Man made goods are superior. If they arent, there is no profit, like fabrics.

>>15487831
>mass delusion is the natural state of groups of human beings
Groups of leftists maybe

>>15488249
What an awful take.

Also how the fuck was marx an anarchist in his later years?

>>15488026
>>15488229
>>15488249
One falsley bases itself on a delusional theory of government (which itself is based on a bastardisation of the already weak anarchist theory/view on government) so as to not make the rest of its theory fall apart.

Libertarians are either of the liberal kind like mill and smith, or the american kind with their dumbasses, or are anarchists (although most have stopped using that term after it started being used by the right), and each one of those falls into their own faults

>>15488202
>You do realize /lit is a socialist board with marxist sympathies

you need to go back, the core of 4chan is counterculture and freedom of speech, now fuck off you retard, and I don't dislike marx, I dislike marxists who partel on about him being an equvlent to that of a scientist (econmist) when he is a fucking speculator and nothing more.
>Your enlightenment rivals jesus
jesus christ you have to be baiting noone is this much of a fedora lord these days.
now fuck off back to l*ddit where you belong

>>15488283
sorry for sharing a youtube video, but
https://youtu.be/rRXvQuE9xO4

>>15487268
You may want to start with just H. Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson to get rid of illusions that government interventions improve anything, then read Huemer's The Problem of Political Authority to notice that rulers have no clothes anyway and only then proceed to Rothbard and Hoppe to see the solution to these problems.
Jumping straight to strict ancap books is too much for many "citizens" raised on state propaganda from cradle.

>>15488337
BIG wrong, ancaps are based mostly on the Austrian School of economical thougth and property ethics. They are right wing for being individualists and in favor of the free market, also anarchists for being against the state on ethical bases. American libertarians would be freaks in their view for they are still pro state, or worse, want to go trough the system to bring it down, which is impossible.

>>15488407
Mega cringe.

>>15488283
basically he was for decentralization of state power as a means for revolutionary potential, something ancaps can agree on, for some of them believe in separatism as a good way to weaken state power slowly as to eventually dissolve it. Also, even stuff Zizek says about smaller revolutionary actions can be used in favor of weakening the state, instead of making it stronger (which a lot of socialists want, sometimes without even realising it). Even Kaczynski's little manifesto can be useful for it's analysis of the system's arms of control, and the mindset of modern leftists, although Kaczynski himself is a collectivist. What I am saying is every revolutionary has something useful to say to an ancap

>>15488202
>/lit is a socialist board with marxist sympathies
no, this is not and never has been true. as other anon said 4chan's userbase has always lent towards free speech and counter culture.
>Disliking marx is literally deserved for midwits jerking off...
are you so blind that you think its impossible to dislike marx without coming from a group of people you think are losers?

>>15488446
Butthurt statist, zero argument, seethe, etc

>>15487268
The Turner Diaries

>>15488457
>>15488383
His anarchism was authortarian, it has nothing to do with ancap

>I just built a house
>REEEE
>I want help to create a product and will pay those that help equal to the productivity on profit
>REEE
>I want to sell goods
>REEE

fuck off you retard

>>15487268
Most ancaps fell for the meme spread by the left that we're actually living in a market economy so they're stuck trying to defend something that doesn't even exist

>>15487268
If you ever even come close to becoming an ancap you should put a shotgun in your mouth and absolutely fucking paint your room with brain tissue

>>15488601
At this point they're just trying to defend whatever freedom has remained in the economy and fend off more regulation. Ancaps, minarchists, classic libs etc are worthless labels outside of academic texts and literature. They all strive for the same (achievable) thing and the aversion of complete overtake by government smoothbrains.

>>15488615
haha, good one - it doesn't take long for statist criminals to show their colors.

>>15488356
>>15488472
I do not understand. You could have done a three second search on how 4chan was before posting this and yet you didn't.

Also do not confuse me saying anyone who refuses to engage with marx is a midwit with saying anyone who does not agree with marx is a midwit. And do not get defensive about jesus because I mentioned his name, I was only making fun of you not him.

And what is it about economists and psychologists desperately trying to make it seem as if their fields are a hard science and themselves as proper scientists doing math and biology. Have some self-restraint. And even if we entertain economists as scientists how are they not "speculators" which you accuse marx of being (which he is not)

>>15488659
I have been here since 2008, the only time this place was leftwing was when bush was presedent you retard
fuck off back to r*ddit yyou fedora autist.
and if I have to explain what an econmist is then you really need to go back. jesus christ dude, why are you here, you don't fit in at all.

>>15488659
>a three second search on how 4chan was
u wot

>>15487268
Half a Sowell book and A partially redacted Bob Black screed
They wont make too much sense to must non-schizophrenics, but that doesn’t matter. The value of money is a spook/faith anyway

>>15487268
>The amount of labor put into a product has jack shit to do with its value.
Marx would agree. The value placed on anything is arbitrarily set by the capitalist for maximum profits. This “meme” is incredibly weak.

the book of retard

>>15487268
Idk, read libertarian arguments and try to undermine everything that's reasonable about them

>>15488599
Oh of course he was, every collectivist has to be authoritarian. But, all I am saying is knowing his writings cound't hurt if you are also against the system and wants to hopefully dissolve it.

>>15488875
his writing is unironcly praised by free market captailists spessically rockerfella is it led to him reforming his buissness to give workers more rigths and inturn increased productivity.

his anti-statism is not applicable because it is the new form of statism

>>15488883
fair enough

>>15487268

unironically mises.org articles.
you'll just need to read a couple of them to realize that ancaps have no idea how the world actually works.

>>15488202
/lit/ is not a socialist board because we are not teary eyed romantics about 'muh utopia' and know the basic history of communism.

>>15487698
I bet you have gay power fantasies of finally losing your virginity after the apocalypse because you believe yourself to be the supreme gentleman operator. I can smell your soul through a one-line post, and it reeks.

>>15488356
>you need to go back, the core of 4chan is counterculture and freedom of speech,
Believing that this clashes with marxism i) proves you're post-gamergate trash and ii) that you've never engaged with Marx.
>>15488472
>no, this is not and never has been true. as other anon said 4chan's userbase has always lent towards free speech and counter culture.
Believing that this clashes with marxism i) proves you're post-gamergate trash and ii) that you've never engaged with Marx.
>>15489057
>because we are not teary eyed romantics
Uh, yes we are, you dumb faggot. Every single one, from the babby's first manifesto Kaczynskifags to the german idealist fags to the traditionalist fags to the marxistfags to the poetryfags to the greekfags. Every single on is a teary eyed romantic.

>>15489101
Yeah because it isn't based in reality so you have to cling onto your teary eyed ideals because otherwise you'd have to admit communism was trash.

>>15489101
You write like a r*dditor, why come here, none wants you here, you don't fit in, people will engage with you on r*ddit and you can enjoy your nice echo chamber.

>>15488005
What did Thrasymachus say again? Can't remember if he was the guy who talked before or after the question on justice.

>>15489086
No one on earth has this fantasy and you’re a dork

>>15488988
economics in one lesson is brainlet tier red it in 2 days and found 3 contradicitons. no better than wiki article. makes sense since it was writen by a highschool dropout

>>15489729
Hi John Quiggin.

>>15489292
He's the really angry young guy with the chair who runs at Socrates. He says "the strong dominate and destroy the weak" and that kind of stuff.

>>15487268
>what is ideology X essential reading
Wait, so you haven't read any books that have made you an ancap, you just decided to be one and now you're retroactively looking for arguments to rationalize it? You're even posting a meme about how swell and smug ancap-ism is. Why bother? Would any of those arguments penetrate your shallow ape brain? You ghoul.

Anyway I hear Hayek is good.

>>15487268
literally how has no one mentioned ASU yet? do you faggots even read?

>>15488670
>>15489057
>>15489147
>>15489159
4chan was literally socialist in its beggining and the only place where it devolved into not being leftist was the containment board /pol before spreading out everywhere else. I do not know what to tell you, if you genuinely remember 4chan to be right wing full of newfags like you in 2008 that's on you. /lit has and always will be full of marxists except in the summer when newfag midwits try to read baby's first right wing literature and get filtered out, like what is happening now.

These kind of idiotic statements can only made by a pseud
>people will engage with you on reddit
>it isn't based in reality so you have to cling onto your teary eyed ideals because otherwise you'd have to admit communism was trash
>we are not teary eyed romantics about 'muh utopia' and know the basic history of communism
>if I have to explain what an econmist is then you really need to go back

Go read marx

>>15491416
you realize no matter what you do you can't make this place leftist unless you censor it. It was never leftist

>>15487275
Underrated

>>15491416
4chan user of 12 years here; you are so wrong it hurts, or perhaps the 4chan user experience really is that subjective. There was nothing leftwing about making swastikas in Habbo Hotel

>>15487268
Ancap is an oxymoron, as any author worth reading necessarily realizes. Consequently there is no essential ancap literature

>>15487461
>implying that anarchocapitalism isn't the libertarian vision

you clearly haven't read Friedman if you think this, or you're simply trolling

>>15487592
What a nigger tier statement

>>15488202
>You do realize /lit is a socialist board with marxist sympathies
Kys

Is anyone else here old enough to remember the days when the politics of 4chan was completely inverted with communists playing the part of /pol/?

>>15487268
the age of consent laws you absolute fuck

>>15487715
rothbard is an ancap

>>15491393
>Nozick
>AnCap
Hello lobotomy

>>15487592
I feel like we need retards like this to make us feel smart

>>15488383
jesus christ what an absolutely terrible video

>>15492587
the author doesn't have to be a literal ancap for the book to be relevant; it's a foundational and monumental achievement in libertarian though

>>15493214
Yes, I still don't think ancaps would like ASU, since it shows how a regional monopoly of force (a state) can arise through non-coercive or non-unethical means, something which goes against their arguments that all forms of states are inherently unethical.
Or am I missing something?

>>15491416
>4chan was socialist
>swastikas in habbo hotel, club penguin
>made fun of blacks on a daily basis
>openly recuiting National Socialists dating back to ~2010

you have no idea what you're talking about

>>15491810
except this never happened.
/new/ was incredibly racist

>>15493471
>Nazis are not socialists

>>15493490
Not in the Marxist sense

>>15493512
>Not in the Marxist sense

>>15492614
cope

>>15493524
cope

>>15491810

What? Are you from an alternate reality? It used to be libertarians and atheists. Now it's nazis and christlarpers.

What?

>>15493490
I bet you graduated top of your class from PragerU lmfao.

>>15493214
if you think Nozick arguments are somewhat relevant for ancapism youre retarded

>>15489011
nobody does

>>15487268
>economics in one lesson
>anatomy of the state
>the machiavellians: defenders of freedom
>the problem of political authority
>open letter to open-minded progressives

>>15487268
>ancap
>reading
kek

anarchy and the law

>>15496005
Most modern day millennial commies don’t read at all, they’re just jaded middle class dorks