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15431051 No.15431051 [Reply] [Original]

Is the high brow - low brow dichotomy relevant in modern days?

>> No.15431166

theater is superior to ballet

>> No.15431185

Definitely not in the Anglosphere.

>> No.15431195

>>15431166
Take that back!

>> No.15431243

Obligatory pic
Also, it is still relevant insofar as more educated groups will make judgements of others based on their interests and hobbies. Yet the boundaries which separate taste are becoming blurred. A true patrician understands that art should be judged not in virtue of its genre or medium, but instead in virtue of itself and where it has come from. Creative work that is redundant or unintentionally inconsistent lacks value.

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>>15431243

>> No.15431253

>>15431051
Di chotomy
Dichotomy
...Dichotomy

>> No.15431254

>>15431051
>if it is recent, it is better the chart

lol zoomer af

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>> No.15431282

>>15431262
Today he'd be trolling /lit/...

>> No.15431299

>>15431051
low-brow then is higher than high-brow now. world's gone to shit. so no, it's not relevant these days, because being rich and having class are different things. most rich people have no fucking class.

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>>15431262
>90% of the time they are right

>> No.15431320

Not really. Even old rich families LARP as poor black Americans.

>> No.15431328

>>15431051

Holy shit why is 'lowbrow' so fucking kino. Western movies beer, old army uniforms, it just screams aesthetic.

>> No.15431336

>>15431262
>Without them [highbrows] this type of culture would probably not exist.

This is true.

>> No.15431344

>>15431328

ew

>> No.15431346

>>15431051

Imagine pretending to like any of the 'high-brow' things to be part of the in-crowd. Who genuinely enjoys ballet? Jesus Christ.

>> No.15431350

http://www.hilobrow.com/2009/03/04/woolf-contra-middlebrow/

>> No.15431364

>>15431346
>Who genuinely enjoys ballet?
The problem with high-brow tastes is that if someone tries to meet them and does poorly, it ends up looking awful. Bad ballet is shit. Mediocre ballet is shit. Decent-enough ballet is shit. Technically proficient ballet is shit. Good ballet is barely tolerable. But great ballet? It is sublime.

>> No.15431382

>>15431051
upper middle is the sweet spot, a classical well rounded character, with the exception of the planned parenthood thing. high brow is completely up its own ass and ultimately as slavishly devited to trends as lowbrow. also, movies are lowbrow but the very best are as worthwhile as literature or theater

>> No.15431386

>>15431346
pleb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8bwkug-Wk0

>> No.15431612

>>15431382

Upper middle is quite literally midwit tier.

>> No.15431632

>>15431051
highbrow and lowbrow are just 2 flavors of consumerism

>> No.15431924

>>15431051
Unironically high brow

>> No.15431975

>>15431051
If you go out of your way to enjoy some things over another, especially if you do not actually enjoy those things, in order to make yourself look high-brow, you are a poser and not the intellectual you think those tastes make you. An intelligent person can enjoy many things across that list, from high to low-brow. Also thinking what you wear, what furniture you buy, or what you eat/drink distinguishes you from others you're just a vain dork.

>> No.15431981

>>15431612
Actually that's lower middle-brow
Upper middle-brow is enlightened tier
Upper middle-brow > low-brow > high-brow > lower middle-brow

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>>15431051
That old chart no, this new chart, also no.

>> No.15434023

>>15432611
upper middle is still the sweet spot, though this one is embarrassingly british

>> No.15434082

>>15431051
Beer is no longer low-brow in the Neherlands or Flanders though.

>> No.15434115

>>15431051
High brow and low brow are both lit, anything inbetween is not.

>> No.15434172

>>15431247
what does this mean

>> No.15434183

>>15431051
>anglo
>culture
lmao

>> No.15434193

>>15431262
so are high brows wealthy or not

>> No.15434206

>>15431346
idk about ballet on stage but ballet chicks and their flexible poses are big agp trigger for me desu

>> No.15435161

>>15434206

>Whores good

Yes Grug I agree, but what does that have to do with culture?

>> No.15435171

>>15432611

Why is 'salad' even a category? Am I being meme'd?

>> No.15435185

>>15432611

What brow am I if I think every single one of these is either a pretentious cunt or a parody-tier moron?

>> No.15435192

>>15431247
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, my ~2 year streak.
Screw you.

>> No.15435234

>>15432611
>high brow cause is kabbalah
what

>> No.15435238

>>15431051
Hipster wankers have always been hipster wankers. And the classics are the classics

Fuck you

>> No.15435337

Upper middle brow is ideal. High brow is a pseud faggot and lower middle is a suburban normalfag.

>> No.15435385

>>15431051
This reads like Americans trying to independently invent the English class system. Spolier alert, everyone hates the middle classes, who ruin everything, and you can't change from one class to another no matter what.

>> No.15435396

>>15431051
high-brows have always been the insecure tryhards

>> No.15435478

>>15434172
Behold the newfag.

>> No.15435595

>>15431328
>so fucking kino
You have to go back.

>> No.15436120

is riichi mahjong high or middle-high brow?

>> No.15436539

>>15435478
does it mean social games

>> No.15436726

>>15434115
>t. virginia woolf

>> No.15437206

>>15431051
These charts are always fucked up because the authors mix up money and class. IRL there's a huge difference between, say, Oprah and William F Buckley.

>> No.15437336

>>15437206
Both are shit

>> No.15437355

>>15431051
This is fucking archaic.

>> No.15437361

>>15432611
Okay, i'm going to stop you right here since this chart is fucking trash.

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>>15431386
Why didn't my parents make me start studying ballet from age 3

>> No.15437377

>>15437375
piano more like

>> No.15437379

>>15435234
(((Kabbalah)))

>> No.15437381

>>15437377
Actually they did have me start piano at five so I can't fault them there

>> No.15437387

>>15431166
filtered

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>>15437381
don't fucking complain then you little princess

>> No.15437424

>>15431051
Go read the youtube comments on an opera video (a real one, no andrea bocelli shit) and then read the comments on a kpop video and report your findings.

>> No.15437431

>>15437424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDVvB7Xx1w
>Andrea Bocelli
>Not real opera

>> No.15437464

>>15437424
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>This is probably gonna sounded super gai But I think I has
> Intenso!!!
BLACKPINK - 'Kill This Love' M/V
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>> No.15437481

What would nigger brow be?

>> No.15437494

>>15431247
FUCK YOU LMAO

>> No.15437497

>>15437424
>>15437464
Tristan und Isolde
>Nietzsche brought me here
>Salvador Dali died listening to this song in his bed
>I took my wife to see this in the 1990s. I am in love with this and her
>without music, life would be pointless
Blackpink - Whistle:
>i want blackpink comeback to have this kind of music whistle is superior song
>Jisoo : hey boy (BLACKPINK) Jihoon : hey girl (TREASURE)
>We will deliver all black pink and songs to one billion and DDU DUU to two billion before return

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>>15431051
Rank yourself

>> No.15438018

>>15437940
what the fuck

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reminder that simply being on this site automatically filters all of us into either the lowbrow category or something below

>> No.15438092

>>15431051

It's not a relevant dichotomy. These classifications were merely products of sterile petit bourgeois minds. All culture now is lumpen culture

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>>15431051
there is no vidya on the chart
why

>> No.15438126

>>15431051
Who gives a shit? The obsessive need to categorize things and establish hierarchies and pecking orders is fucking endlessly tiring. Enjoy things on their own merit. You are not better or worse for having highbrow or lowbrow interests. The distinction is one that has more to do with cultivating a (false and arbitrary) feeling of superiority and cohesiveness with your gay little in-group.

>> No.15438218

>>15434172
you really don't want to know

>> No.15438239

>>15437940
lmao what the hell

>> No.15439244

>>15431051
what am i if i don't eat salads

>> No.15439285

>>15432611
>Children in Need, Help for Heroes
>pic is a literal demon

>> No.15439309

>>15431051
I was thinking about this today re: Shakespeare, and no, absolutely not. In fact, it would be harder to argue for anything being High Culture, more so than isolating instances of a procession of vulgarity (which I'm sure has massive political implications but whatever). If there is a parallel dimension sustained from the original dichotomy, it would be bourgeois/proletariat, which even then isn't quite the same as both can dip into each other's pool all the time (though, I would argue, without actually disturbing the dichotomy) and one doesn't necessarily have cultural capital (aside from the sheer quantitative possibility of cultural production, which is still mostly null because the same people who secure that capital are more often interested in multiplying it) over the other.

>> No.15439725

>>15431051
>high brow useful object is a bong
based

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>>15431051

BASED:

High-brow patricians
Lower middle-brow salt of the earth

CRINGE:
Upper middle-brow tryhard pseuds
Low-brow prole retards

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>>15431051

>> No.15440252

>>15431166
Ballet is the highest form of art while theatre is even below cinema and opera.

>> No.15440293

>>15434193
That's not a factor. It's possible to be poor and high-brow (most artists) or rich and low-brow (any American celebrity).

>> No.15440302

>>15431328
>>15431346
plebs

>> No.15440312

>>15437497
Opera confirmed more tasteful than kpop.

>> No.15440321

>>15431247
motherfucker

>> No.15440365

>>15431051
>>15432611
Why do hate coleslaw?

>> No.15440426

>>15432611
>something from the cellar
Man I'm glad that's where I keep my drinking piss

>> No.15440925

>>15431051
Fucking goddammit, I lost

>> No.15440955

>>15437940
thanks anon i laughed for like 5 minutes
you're fucking retarded i love it

>> No.15440977

>>15437940
Is this loss

>> No.15440991

>>15440365
>eating mayo

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>>15432611
Based Glen

>> No.15441112

>>15432611
wtf

>> No.15441151

>>15437375
>tfw mother forced me to take street dancing lessions as a kid
got called a fag in middle school nonetheless, might as well learned a proper form of dance.

>> No.15441532

>>15431051
>High brow/low brow
There are only two kinds of people
Those who live in houses and have jobs because they are scared of their own death
And Diogenes

>> No.15441549

>>15432611
Is backgammon considered high-brow in Western Europe/North America?

>> No.15441556

>>15435171
Based no brow

>> No.15441621

>>15431262
>high-borws like me
Spoken like a true middle-brow.