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Am I a degenerate and a pleb if I find modern philsophy (20th century onwards) much more interesting and fun to read than old stuff like the Greeks or whatever

>> No.15395248

>>15395244
No. Why would you even bother asking such a question?

>> No.15395251

yes

>> No.15395254

>>15395244

modern philosophy actually has to do with living in a modern late-capitalist secular world, while a lot of the greek shit is about nonsense shit like forms and shit.

>> No.15395301

>>15395254
I do believe in forms though.

>> No.15395306

>>15395244
No but they build on top of it. Like analytic you prefer or continental?

>> No.15395308

>>15395306
Continental. Analytic is boring and soulless.

>> No.15395327

>>15395308
Yeah I mean what about ancient greeks you don't like considering they use a lot of ancient Greek references

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>>15395244
whatever at least it isn't 21st century "my pussy yeast yogurt cum cum squirt shit on a canvas piss christ cock and balls dildo of shit"

>> No.15395654

>>15395343
what is this

>> No.15395749

>>15395654
21st century philosophy.

>> No.15396054

>>15395343
What is it with so many modern "thinkers" or "artists" and just being as vulgar and crude as possible as if there is something radical and edgy about that

>> No.15396070

>>15396054
It's the later waves. You start something edgy as a first adopter it's less edgy and less pertainable to reality and then you have ppl raised on MTV and 50 years of the 'sex revolution' and individuality and they think they're offending someone and not making themselves look foolish. There's literally nothing constructive in destroying art anymore or trying to make it subjective. It's as far as it can go until lwers start cooking refugees to teach us how badly we treat them and it's just shocking at that point. It's why peta sucks

>> No.15396086

>>15396054
Their teachers heard Neitzsche say "God is dead" and Bataille say "Laugh at a coffin full of shit" in their intro to philosophy in the 80s and they didn't get it, now they teach some butchered up chinese whispers simulacrum.

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>>15396070
But they still have their limits. They can say words like >>15395343
and that would be fine, but they can't be truly edgy and say "Jews control the world" or "homosexuality is disgusting" or "feminism is destroying civilization" or things like that. They are pseudo-edgy, not truly edgy.

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15396106

>>15396098
Oh really?

>> No.15396122

>>15395244
Modern philosophy (I assume you are talking about continental / french philosophy) is just aristocratic radicalism evolving post-Nietzsche.

>> No.15396141

>>15395308
based

>> No.15396148

>>15395244
idk man, Plato can be quite amazing at times.

>> No.15396155

>>15396106
Yeah now imagine what the reaction would be like if a prominent philosopher said that today.

>> No.15396241

>>15396070
>you have ppl raised on MTV and 50 years of the 'sex revolution' and individuality
It goes back to the "Enlightenment," the beginning of the age of liberalism.

>> No.15397236

>>15395244
Certainly not.
>>15395343
The twentieth century was eminently respectable.
Ours is not.

>> No.15397363

>>15395244
No but you sound like pseud

>> No.15397495

>>15397236
But the twentieth century is already over, dude. We've barely even gotten started.