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Read the twitter feed of a frat bro or a sore-whore-ity girl if you wanna “capture the zeitgeist.”

Genuinely grotesque

>>15374165
If you're an undergraduate, I guess. Not most people.

>>15374155
>>15374165
Sorority life and body mod freaks are NOT the zeitgeist. They’re fringe.

Yes, of course it’s possible.

>>15374155
Oriental obsessed youth. Dwindling of the male sexual personae. Secular cultism driven by image worship and mass media. The state used to define ontology for the masses. The cultural homogenization that began with the age of nationalism is crumbling under its own weight. Too much information, too many plausible realities. Ontology is in the process of reverting to it's pre-newtonian state- fractured, tribal. Based on the attention economy rather than pre-industrial obligation driven economies.

>>15374155
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Oh look I did it.

>>15374155
I think /lit/ doc projects like >>15371621 unironically do a good job.

>>15374271
Is spirit cooking the zeitgeist?

Id pipe desu

>>15374271

what painting is that?

>>15374302
I agree with your other points, and would love to hear more from you on this ontological development, but what do you mean by oriental obsessed youth?

>>15374522
People are saying it’s a depiction of a satan. Not sure who the artist could be

>>15374522
>>15374555
satan summoning his armies

>>15374589
Or Legions, by Thomas Lawrence. Thanks

>>15374553
Japanese/Korean cartoons, pop stars, music, video games, etc. The historical point on ontology is borrowed from Ernest Gellner-
>the most striking trait of pre-modern, pre-rational visons: the co-existence within them of multiple, not properly united, but hierarchically related sub-worlds, and the existence of special privileged facts, sacralized and exempt from ordinary treatment.
these 'sub-worlds' become homogenized by centralizing nation-states, culminating in the single 'rational spirit' recognized and developed by Kant, Hume and Descartes. A single, dominating epistemological framework in contrast with the disparate cultural network of pre-modern Europe.

>>15374155
Nope

>>15374644
kpop in particular; absolutely hyperreal manufactured culture

>>15374644
It's interesting to me that most of the pop culture and media coming from Asia don't actually reflect any aspect of oriental culture, rather they are even more exaggerated versions of American pop cultural exports from earlier decades. Like >>15374731 says, there's something so extreme and aggressive the way these illusions and spectacles assault the senses, and it's especially obvious when it's the cultural product of another country or culture expressing these extremified versions of pop trends.

>>15374770
This is an interesting point, and I agree to an extent though I'd hesitate to say that something like kpop is devoid of oriental culture. Have you ever seen a bon dance? The highly choreographed movements of these pop stars is reminiscent of the ritualistic/religious dances that town people preformed communally. This relationship between ancestor worship and dance has been turned on it's head, now oversexualized, overproduced. Ancestor worship becomes idol worship. I don't disagree with you though. The American influence can't be understated.

>>15374644
So you're seeing a return to the mystic? Subculture siphons off into smaller subcultures fracturing out into more disparate subcultures until no truth or shared reality exists?

>>15374973
To an extent. It's hard to say how long it will last, but things are certainly trending in that direction. There are key differences. In the past these sub-cultures were able to persist due to slow movement, and the importance of geography. Regional dialects and customs were able to pop up, often with little state interference. The situation is reversed now. Geography and the significance of place-ness means less and less with each passing year. The information hierarchies that were once dependent on state authorization are increasingly disrupted. 'Fake news' is a funny modern truism since news-media has always been sensationalist. What's changed is ease of access to information. What was once limited to town criers or communal print-news readings in the bar or town square is now immediately with you at all time. The old system relied on time and isolation. The emergent one relies ease of access and free choice. Add increased societal anomie to the mix and you see people starting to collapse inwards. Media providers are salivating at the chance to sell you the information you desire. Common sense means less and less. This is all after one generation of internet exposure. It's difficult to say how for this will go, and what form it will end up taking.

>>15374271
>hurr durr we summin demons n sheeit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=41M-yiGMqK4