/lit/ - Literature

>>15370493
>inb4 translations

>>15370493
too much to read
what is Aristrottel in a nutshell

>>15370504
Try reading this

>>15370520
is this a novel?

>>15370493

Save the Organon and the Metaphysics for last. Organon because it is boring and Metaphysics because it is most complicated.

Start with De anima and Nicomachean Ethics. These are very juicy, but still fairly easy to understand so long as you take it slow.

>>15370549
i haven't got the faintest idea

>>15370551
Boring doesn't bother me; should I still go for those ones.

>>15370520
LOL

>>15370493
Is read poetics first because it’s short and easy to understand to get a feel for him, then I’d read rhetoric because it’s the book that unlocks all writing and social interactions for all time, especially his own, the. I’d read ethics into politics as it directly combats Plato’s concepts in the republic and is a good transition into the rest of the list in order that you posted. Organon is boring as fuck and Aristotle is pretty boring in general. Not saying that his content is bad by any means, some of the greatest wisdom in human history came from that man, but Jesus its a fucking slog. This is the rec from a smooth brain, so take it as you will.

>>15370520
>stonewall book award
this doesn't bode well

>>15370579
thanks for your post, so do you think reading rhetoric is a prequisite for understanding his other writings?

>>15370613
I worked with rhetoric graduate students and lawyers, as well as have my undergrad in communication. I’m a little biased, but I think it’s the most practical of all his books, not only for understanding his own perceived belief in the words he uses, but also for spergs that post frog pictures and complain about social interactions all day under the guise of books for this feel threads.

>>15370681
thanks

Are the finnish translations any good?

>>15371096
I haven't read them yet, but apparently they are okay.

HELP ME

>>15371869
We already did, go fucking read poetics you dumb fuck.

Read the nikkomakkoksen etiika, sounds fun.

>>15370681
I agree with this. It's definitely one of his more accessible works too. Rhetoric for understanding the real world, and I'd argue Poetics for the realm of literature

>>15370493
>Gaudeamus
perustettu

>>15370493
ignore the metaphysics anon, start with the organon. When you read the categories, use sadlers commentary on chapter 2. Yes, I know he's a gay bitch, but that chapter is incredibly hard to understand. Your reading order is actually identical to the one I'm following right now.

>>15370504
then skip the last three, or read Aristotle for everybody by mortimer j adler. Faggot.

>>15371966
Okay. Done. What now?

>>15370549
I looked it up once, it's about two Hispanic kids. sage it.

>>15372038
what did aristotle mean by this

>>15372492
Read Porphyry's commentary or the Isagoge for Categories not some adjunct no names dry explanations that miss the mark

>>15372492
thx, do you think the commentary is paramount or can I survive with just the notes that the book has?

>>15372531
Thanks for the advice! Are there any other good historical commentaries on Aristotle?

>>15372473
I wish I'd started to look for the books when they were still available as hardcovers.

>>15372550
Use the commentary. I stared at 6 paragraphs for 2 hours before admitting defeat. The commentary is only like 20 minutes long and it will make it much easier.

>>15372577
you can still find them used but they aren't cheap. in general too I would suggest supporting old antiquaries rather than soulless mall-tier bookstores

>>15372571
Yes, many. Simplicius and Porphyry both give you a Neoplatonic lense on the works. Porphyry in particular is very influential in Medieval Logic and his Intro to the Categories (Isagoge) was used as a logic textbook for quite some time. There are also some great Islamic commentators (Al Kindi, Averroes). Al-Farabi was seen as the Second Teacher after Aristotle in the Islamic world and he has some very interesting commentaries on the Organon. Finally you have the Scholastics (Peter Lombard, Albert Magnus and Aquinas), Aquinas is great for reading the Physics and De Anima.

>>15372629
At least Gaudeamus published paperbacks, still waiting for Otava to reprint Plato.

Antiquaries are ridiciously expensive around here, nowadays I just buy books online.

>>15372658
Thanks.

>>15370493
Aristotle is fucking garbage, he ruined philosophy and is why we have Cartesianism today.

>>15372738
Please elaborate.

>>15372511
What did you learn anon?
Now read the rhetoric.

>>15372738
Retard post

>>15372759
I didn't really get the second book.
Okay, will do.

>>15373418
>second book

wait what