/lit/ - Literature

I'll read it just for the loli on the cover.

>>15334177
No, but I definitely plan to at some point

>>15334177
>Watched this as a musical with my family days before the place shut down for coronavirus
>Was the only one who didn't know what the fuck was going on
I'm retarded, bros

>>15334193
wtf is this actually kino

>>15334177
I have this copy and the Easton Press edition, I think I'll read the Signet one because the other one is too heavy.

>>15334249
Look up the "10th anniversary concert" and put in the background the next time you spend all day wanking
or watch the 2012 film if you want something more visual.

>>15334193
I need to read Victor Hugo now, have I been psy-oped into thinking he is only read by theater nerds?

>>15334193
Absolute kino.

Yes and it's wonderful

>>15334177
I did. Took me three months, only remember a few parts because the story is spread out over so many pages. It's a long read, but it's definitely worth it I would say. Been meaning to re-read it sometime soon

>>15334193
The sewers are legitimately interesting. People had to walk through that shit and they deserve respect.

>>15334177
*ahem*
*clears throat*
FUCK FRENCH WRITERS AND PHILOSOPHERS
FUCK VICTOR HUGO
FUCK ALBERT CAMUS
FUCK THE MARQUIS DE SADE
FUCK VOLTAIRE
FUCK JOHN CALVIN
FUCK GEORGES SOREL
FUCK SARTRE
FUCK SIMONE DE BEAUVOIR
FUCK BENJAMIN CONSTANT
FUCK RENÉ DESCARTES
FUCK MICHEL FOUCAULT
FUCK DERRIDA
FUCK CLAUDE LEVI-STRAUSS
FUCK AUGUSTE COMTE
FUCK EMILE DURKHEIM
FUCK MONTESQUIEU
AND FUCK ROUSSEAU SO VERY MUCH

>>15334193
Commendable autism

>>15334193
Love it when books do this

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>>15334287
Hopefully not some gay English translation?

>>15334291
>Left out Guenon anyways
pbuh anon

>>15334313
I would never learn the French language because I don't respect them.

>>15334193
christ,i hope watching that shitty movie wont ruin the exeperiance for me. I dont want Russel crows uggly noggin popping up in my head for 3k pages. While typing this i realise wolverine was their too.

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>>15334328
This is peak 19th century literature

>>15334328
fucking hell, he's just rambling

>>15334328
based

>>15334342
It may seem like that but it's really not. Everything has something to do with the story even if it's just background information.

>>15334291
>no Bataille
yeah boy
still angry about de Sade, though

>>15334328
BASED

It's great tho as an on pointed out it's full of essays and history on parths of the novel that appear for a bread moment.

Reading it right now.
It’s not boring you faggot. It’s a 1500 page book. He takes time to build the setup for things, like at the beginning with the bishop to set the stage for Jean Valjean

>>15334533
>It’s a 1500 page book
You're reading an abridged version you homo

>>15334540
No, I’m reading the Everychad’s version

>>15334546
>Translation
zoinks!

>>15334553
Hugo approved of the Wilbour translation.
English shares over 30% of its vocabulary with French. A French-English translation will hardly lose anything

>>15334328
Fuck you the early chapters are really fun to read and give context for France of the time as Hugo understood it

>>15334177
Yeah it was good

>>15334177
Reminder that Victor Hugo also made some really nice visual art

>>15334328
Fucking based shitposting chad, making people read what he wants to write about even if its far besides the point.

>>15334177
i tried but I used to smoke so i can't sing for too long. Did 15 pages/hour. I was expecting more melody.

>>15334193
I want to read Hugo now. Recommend me the best translation please.

>>15334177
My wife reads it to me on quiet evenings.

I refuse to read books over 400 pages long.

>>15334193
never reas les mis, but in notre dame this actually had a point because of how central to the plot and themes the city and the cathedral are

>>15334177
Better edition

>>15334193
sounds based

>>15337800
>Translations

>>15336171
That’s kino
Is that supposed to be Château d’If?

>>15334546
based

>>15334193
Did Melville get his inspiration from Chad Hugo?

>>15334291
>left out Gaspar Noe and Claire Denis
Half-measures baka

>>15334291
*clears throat*
VAVAHOOO

I read it when I was 19 and the apparent divagation from story was tedious at the time, I'm 30 now and know I would like that aspect of it if I were to read it for the first time again. Overall it's one of the best novels I have ever read.

>>15334546
Rip out that carpet and get tile fool the dust is effecting my sinuses from here. Once the tile is installed wear slippers so as not to get spurs. You're welcome

>>15334177
Remember choosing this same edition in middle school, voluntarily, for a book report. Learned so much about monasticism, Waterloo, and sewer systems. It's the only book I remember from that year.
I remember there being a long chapter called "The Enigma." I got the word confused with "Enema" and spent 100 pages wondering if Cosette was going to get a colonic or if it was just some societal metaphor for clearing out the riffraff. Finally looked up the word and felt quite silly.

I read the whole thing and thoroghly enjpyed it. Admittedly, some of the parts about french history, construction, and Waterloo kind of dragged on.

>>15334249
I only ever read Jean Val Jean and went to a Les Miserables Musial once with my wife and her sister.

I had a grasp of what was going on, and asked her sister who had never read either and heard it was good if she knew what was going on.

She had no clue.

I can therefore only conclude the musical is hard to follow.

>>15334193
I thought it was more that originally it was a magazine/newspaper serial and he was paid by installment and wasted time to make more money.

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>>15334328
This sounds immersive. I want to read it now.

>>15338431
I think paid by word happened a lot in the 19th century so there's lots of filler and dumb shit. In this case is looks good, however.

>>15334679
No it doesn't you retard. Very few words are 1:1 and all the important ones are not shared. Never mind completely different grammars. The subtleties lost for such semantically close languages will be in grammatical subtleties.

>>15334193
Based autismo frog.

Look at all the absolute pseuds latching over to the first thing that the critics absolutely hate and slobbering over a talentless frog who lacked the inventive to write a coherent plot. This is what you get when you allowed soulless incels to read, a pack of deadbeat virgins who only read for the sake of being an edgy contrarian fuck, because so long as it goes against the status-quo it's all cool and based. Anyone who replied to these screencaps should consider committing suicide from the bottom of his shriveled heart.

>>15337856
Melville came before him

>>15334177
I read that same version.
The revolution proper doesn’t start until page 1,047.
Still, I enjoyed it.

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>>15334291
I spent 10 minutes trying to think of an example you listed with which I can disagree, but I honestly can't.

>>15338731
I thougth the same thing but thats just how 4chan is , at the end not diferent from the normies.
I readed les miserables it was good but ONE GOOD short-story of Borges would beat the shit out of hundreds of pages of Hugo

The book is fantastic for the revelation Valjean has after his argument with the priest and for the dramatic way Grantaire goes down with Enjolras and all that other famous stuff, but people really overlook how good Hugo is at creating little images and metaphors that stick in your mind. Maybe it's just because it's near the end of the book, but there's this passage that's stuck in my mind. It was a simple two paragraph one about how some furniture pieces looked like they were continuing a party that had ended the night before by themselves (he says the chairs looked like they were talking because they were arranged in a circle I think), and I just found the image very charming.

That's why you really gotta read great literature for yourself. Even after you've encountered 100 opinions on a book from anons here and you know some details of the plot, or maybe even the whole thing because there's a musical based on it, you will STILL be surprised about what you read and end up coming away from stuff with your own opinions.

I thought the long aside about the sewer expeditions were genuinely cool by the way. I didn't like all the asides, but some of them were awesome. Sewer expedition>Waterloo>The bourgeoisie king Phillipe and the huge barricades of 1848>sewer architecture>Criminal Slang>>>Convent. I'm sure there were others but I've forgotten huge chunks of the book at this point.

>>15339402
Bor-in-ges is overrated you pseud
His works were all the same gimmick

>>15334291
Hold the fucking PHONE RIGHT THERE MOTHER FUCKING BITCH fuck cunt dike bitch...

THat Man was no FROG!! He was THE CITIZEN OF GENEVA!!!!

>>15334193
Wow. Surprised to know I'm not the only one who loves when books do this. Main reason why I loved mobie dick

>>15334193
This guy was already doing some post-modern stuff in the 19th century.

>>15338878
Moby-Dick came before Les Misérables, yes (1851 vs 1862). But Hugo was born before Melville (1802 vs 1819) and published before him (1822 vs1846).

>book is 600+ pages of shit
>/lit/ eats it up

No surprise from one of the boards with the worst taste.

>>15340395
>long book bad
>established canon classic bad
go read twatter if you want short texts.

>>15340395
F I L T E R E D

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>>15340431
>praising a book for being based before you even read it
>anon reads the book with glee as he thinks "holy moly this book is so freaking based. classics are the ONLY thing worth reading. Me? Oh, I only read the CANON."

You are all dolts. Many of you hide behind the fact that you can't actually respond to criticism with anything intelligible. I think you all sincerely think that reading makes you more intelligent instead of it being another outlet of entertainment. This board is /mu/ with literature. Half of you just started posting when jordan peterson became big and when infinite jest posting was all the rage. This board is recently fast. Before, threads lasted days. Anons used to actually talk about new novels instead of the same three shit books. Enjoy your 1000 page novel in translation.

>>15340506
Your shitpost was meant to be "criticism"?

>>15340638
Yeah, this board refuses to discuss works. They simply tell others anons if it was based or shit. Seeing anons praise a book they haven't read for being long and meandering is telling of what some of you really care about. If you read the book and actually want to discuss les mis, then feel free. None of you do. It is simply it is good or bad. Scroll through a book discussion thread and gauge how many people have actually read it. I don't know if Les Mis is shit. I haven't read it. To think this thread would consist of anons calling a wiki description of it and determine it is based now is asinine.

>>15340713
>book is 600+ pages of shit
>I don't know if Les Mis is shit.
If this is your idea of "criticism", I don't want to know what your idea of literature is. Don't even @ me, pleb.

>>15334177
it’s one of my favorites.
although the second time I read it, I skipped the whole part about Waterloo

>>15334249
it’s actually the only musical I’ve ever enjoyed. I got a cassette of the soundtrack as a gift when I was a kid and fell in love with it. eventually got to play bass in the pit band for it in high school.
I still fall asleep to it pretty often.

>>15334268
read Hunchback too.
I read it during the lockdown and loved it. beautiful story from an interesting historical period.
I need more like it.
I’m thinking of finally starting Don Quixote

>>15336291
the one pictured in the OP worked well for me

>>15334346
I love how he goes on for 200+ pages about the battle of Waterloo in intricate detail, only to find out it’s because Thenardier was scavenging jewelry and whatnot from dead soldiers corpses.
a 200 page detour for like half a page of reasoning for doing it.
absolute mastery of proto-shitposting.

>>15334193
That is kinolitieraturi.

>>15338209
kek

>>15340506
>This board is /mu/ with literature.
no shit, genius
and /tv/ is /po/ with television and film.
and /ck/ is /co/ with food

>>15334177
Nah I've read the ripoff of it called Tale of Two cities instead

>>15336206
don't worry anon, I chuckled

>>15340999
I tried to read that once and about a hundred pages in, I realized that I wasn’t paying attention and lost the plot and couldn’t figure out when it had happened, so I stopped reading it.
someday I’ll get back to it though.

>Hugo, in his exuberant youth, took great pleasure in singing of the pleasures of life as a poet; everything in life that is splendid and rich attracts the eyes of the young. In later age, however, they turn their gaze with some worry and curiosity towards the mysteries.

>It is evident that the author of les Misérables wanted to create living abstractions, ideal figures that would his raise his thesis to the heights of an epic. It is a novel that was constructed as a poem, in which each character serves, in a hyperbolic manner, a generality. Hugo built a cathedral to create a new fusion of that which is lyrical, epic, and philosophical to confirm the genius of his youth, when he had transformed the ancient ode and the ancient tragedy to the poems of our days.

>>15340506
seething

I could never really love it like I did with War & Peace. The Waterloo part was pretty great though, I got a map out and followed along.

>>15334291
Derrida is based

>>15341082
What an ugly motherfucker

>>15334193
>it’s fine when Pynchon does it

>>15343054
Maybe a twenty year old version of him will get you wet

im new to /lit/ but i've actually read this. fantastic story with lots of tangent in between that can vary in quality. tons of information and its a great cross between fiction for emotional appeal and nonfictional historical narratives for worldbuilding.

theres a great part where hugo talks about taking a walk and going to the place where Napoleon died, imagining the battle taking place around him, explaining the fuck up that led to his death. i'd say read it and skip a chapter if it really tests your patience but its just as good as some of the other books posted on here.

>>15334193
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