/lit/ - Literature

>>15329640
Pic clearly unrelated, read some manifestos first

>>15329640
where do you stop?

>>15329640
The trash, you'll find it all there

The balls

>>15329707
Don't talk about things you don't understand

>>15329640
"Art"

>>15329861
thanks rog

My diary desu

>>15329828
You should take your own advice dipshit

>>15329861
>>doesn’t understand Duchamp
Seethe nigga

>>15330185
I piss on him and his work just like I piss in that urinal

>>15329861
>beauty = complexity and symmetrically
Yikes!

>>15330278
Roger obviously would not have liked this shit eyesore

>>15329640
The Torah. The overwhelming majority of dadaists were Jews.

>>15330321
...surprise surprise

>>15330278
>shit eyesore
Shit taste. Let me guess, it needs more Doric columns?

>>15330412
Meant for >>15330289

You start first with the war.
Artists fled the war to neutral Switzerland, and their feelings about the madness going on around them manifested in art gone mad.
>>15330321
No, it’s not a zionist plot to make the world ugly. It is an artistic expression of capitalism manifest.
Stop the misdirection campaign to protect your precious shekels, liberal.

>>15330412
It isn't beautiful. It evokes no desire or longing to inspire within. It isn't built on the tradition of centuries of culture. In fact, it calls for the utter destruction and tearing down of that culture. It looks like a urinal I'd piss in. It disgusts me and therefore can't be beautiful. It offers no pleasure whatsoever.

>>15330454
Ah, your indoctrination is airtight. Impressive.

>>15330454
It isn't directly a capitalist manifestation. It's a postmodern cultural marxist destruction of culture

>>15330454
Real artists like Tolkien weren't cowards and went to war and created something on the foundations of giants. I don't endorse war but it goes to show you that the artists who actually went to war created something entirely different than artists that fled from the war

>>15330473
>It isn't built on the tradition of centuries of culture.
Where did it come from then? Thin air? I suggest you actually learn something about the building before formulating an answer to that question.
You don't find it beautiful because you have a common soul. That's okay though, the avant-garde isn't meant for everyone.

>>15330545
It came from Jewish nonsense. Sorry you're a pea-brained indoctrinated destroyer of Western Civilization

Ahh, here comes the war-lovers. The neet edge lords to defend carnage as character building

>>15330592
>destroyer of Western Civilization
Why yes, I am the destroyer of the civilization that gave us democracy, liberalism, capitalism, progressivism and sex-reassignment surgery; you're welcome.

>>15330482
2/10

>>15330600
Where are the war-lovers in this thread? There are none that I see. Experiencing the horrors of war produced something much different in those artists than did whatever hippie bullshit escaping it did
>>15330615
That is a very narrow-minded way to look at it. Much of the evils of that can be attributed to Marxism and postmodern Jewish bullshit. Western Civilization is the height of humanity and I challenge you to name a better one

>>15330600
Woodland Hills California.

>>15330633
The west gave us liberalism, which is pretty much the root of all evil. You can trace it all the way back to the greeks. Marxism was born out of it, and pomo was only a drop in the bucket.
>name a better one
The one that's going to replace it.

>>15330473
Brainlet take. The avant-garde is always a careful maneuvering within a culture, never a tearing down of the very structure that allows an avant-garde.

>>15330655

No, child, (classical, as opposed to American political) liberalism is not evil. It is good. You have adopted an uninformed child-tier opinion for no other reason than to fit in in this space.

>>15330473
t. dada

>sterile art critics with endless opinions on what they have found to be beautiful
>haters of change and nature
>sure that “bad art” comes from freedom and non-Christendom
>artist know nothing of art. Only the highborn.

>>15330655
>The one that's going to replace it.
So there isn't anything better then? Point taken.
>>15330664
This anon gets it. Classical liberalism in the pure sense is inherently good. I'll agree that is can be easily corrupted but that's why it needs to be protected and safeguarded

>>15329640
All you need to know that it was partly unintentionally, partly intentionally the first real step towards making art a real ivory tower field where only art critics and the people who buy the pieces matter. Art that is (for the most part) organic, that doesn't lend itself to airtight control like modern art does is dangerous.

>>15330664
Childishness is good. It is creativity, itself power.
>American political liberalism
And what do you think the condition of its existence was? and the condition of the existence of that? so on and so forth. There's a lot that we'll need to get rid of.

>>15330706
If it can be corrupted, it was always already corrupted. There's no going back now.

>>15330723
I suppose your fascist or communist utopia is incorruptible too? How convenient

>>15330738
I'm neither of those things.

>>15330713
Pretty much everything you said was wrong and ahistorical.

>>15330740
Then what would the next level of civilization be according to what you are

>>15330747
You genuinely wouldn't get it

>>15330751
I'm open to it. I might come off as rigid but I absorb ideas all the time and I want to know what you mean

>>15330747
Utterly incomprehensible
>>15330751
This

>>15330746
Prove it.

>>15330776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Europe

>>15330762
If people can't comprehend it, then it will never work since they won't give in to something they don't understand in the first place. Your fantasizing about a utopia that can't exist. Western Civilization is grounded in reality and thousands of years of history, yours is grounded only in your mind

>>15330686
Woodland Hills, California.

>>15330802
You live in this radius.

>>15329707
This.

>>15330811
Why you deleted the other thread? Are you really that scared fucking bitch?

>>15330799
Would an Athenian Greek be able to comprehend a transatlantic internet cable? or a cloud server? or a high oribit geospatial satellite?
And where did I ever claim "utopia"? Since when has the utterly incomprehensible ever correlated with that word?

>>15330844
Sorry we're all too dumb for your high intellect, pseud. And I implied you were talking about a utopia since you said something better than what exists currently but not yet achieved, I admit it was a bit of a jump but that's still the impression I'm getting from it

>>15330811
Lmoa

>>15330952
She got piss off because I said that.
See this thread >>/lit/thread/S15330101#p15330563

>>15330938
You're forgiven. But no, there is no such thing as utopia. At least in the traditional sense of the word.

>>15330978
I agree about that at least

>>15330973
99.129.218.145
Everybody that wants to know butterfly ip address.

>>15330600
Can you just kill yourself already?

Low effort right wing propaganda was enough to make most of you parrot any shit throw your way, with the confidence only an imbecile can sustain. Most of you disgust me. Go ahead, talk about aesthetics, about the west, about liberals, about subhumans and npcs, about race and sex, as if you are giving a lecture among the intelligentsia - being yourself a shining example of it; in reality you are nothing more than the incarnation of misery, spewing vitriol so potent even you and your peers are affected by it.
Nothing but whiny boys, full of fear and hate, raised with stranger’s aphorisms and a sickly ego.

>>15331148

>>15331148
I am trying to locate her with real accuracy. When I have something I will tell the whole board who is she.

>>15330811
Why does every city in sound completely made up?

>>15331231
You forgot your trip :3

>>15331240
I don't what you mean. Elaborate.

>>15329640
I've actually seen that piece of shit at the SF MOMA and I nearly threw an autistic fit because I wasn't expecting to see it when I turned the corner in the gallery. The friends I was with were actually concerned I was having a stroke or heart attack. Apparently I turned bright red and started sputtering incoherently.

There is no art without beauty.

>>15331270
If it's any consolation it wasn't the original you saw.

>>15331270
>Duchamps still making autists seethe over a hundred years later
yeah, I'm thinking he's based

The CHAD Duchamp

the virgin warhol

>>15330494
Most vanguardists were directly involved with war

>>15329640
>Where do I start with Dada?
The trenches

>>15331224
>wall of sneed text

>>15331224

That's fine but modern art is still obviously fucking ugly and your opinion is still stupid.

XX o racoooo X K L ungod ye ZOn

>>15332124
You don't even know what modern art is you mong

>>15329640
Tristan Tzara (Seven Dada Manifestoes).
Hugo Ball (Flametti, Critique of German Intelligentsia, Flight out of Time); he later became a Catholic and was influenced by Carl Schmitt.
Evola was also a dadaist (though I don't think his dada writings (Arte astratta) are translated).
An academic collection of studies I recently came across online is The Dada Seminars (which has a good chapter on dadaevola, among other things).

>>15330494
Yeah, mostly they created a nice splatter on the wall when they blew their own heads up after realizing they'd always be in the Somme.

>>15330633
Ancient Greece. How is this even a discussion?

>>15330633
>i challenge u
Pre-agricultural tribal societies lived better lives than any of us will ever be able to experience

>>15329640
You don't.