/lit/ - Literature

>>15323522
That's a terrible "chart" but there are some good books in it.

>>15323522
I'm a math postdoc with a good academic curriculum and I've never read one of these books lel

Is this a thread for shitty charts ?

>>15323533
More like postcock

>>15323522

>>15323573
why ?

>>15323522

>>15323580
Because anon felt insecure since he never even passed calculus.

>>15323526
Enlighten me on the difference? How is it not a chart?

>>15323522
>No "What is Mathematics" by Courant
change this image right fucking now

>>15323593
It is a chart but a bad one if you follow the order autistically, but I see some good books there

>>15323583
ah ok, didn't understand that
>>15323580
don't feel insecure, calculus can be tricky

>>15323522
Do people really think mathematics have to be learned in a foundational way ?

That's plainly idiotic and inefficient.

>>15324286
>>15324296
oioi do I spy my very own unfinished charts. I've done the first two now so ere ya go

>>15324354
I started making the third last night so should hopefully have that done soon

>>15324313
We would get along very well anon, Jung and Evangelion exploded and ultimately cured a psychosis I went through most of 2018

>>15324354
>>15324370
Based anon

>>15324317
based

>>15324317
What makes a picture book high-quality?

>>15323577
I would hardly call Capital leftist. While it offers a critique of wealth inequality, it does not address Capitalism directly.

>>15324306
Beauty. Already read a lot of snyder and was hoping to expand the spiritual side of his work. This slaps thx anon

>>15324675
based, thanks. I am going thru Bishop Barron's Catholicism documentary now and it's very enjoyable.

>>15323528
Kek

>>15324306
Cool chart, I've been looking for something like this

Does anyone have a flow chart for Dostoevsky, the mega file is lacking it.

>>15323599
Which books are good?

>>15324665
This is cringe.

Can someone post that really large chart mega folder? I don’t think the /lit/ wiki has the right one

>>15326018
https://mega.nz/folder/JrhSyY6S#7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQ Here you go anon

>>15326018
https://mega.nz/folder/JrhSyY6S

>>15323522

>>15326250
Thanks dude

>>15324561
being on the chart

Can someone make a medicine themed chart ? the last one that was posted was trash

>>15323533
So?

>>15324370
Good list

>>15327082
>Silly Books - 'Fart Jokes'
Fart Joke books are the highest form of literature mankind is currently able to comprehend. Not sure why it's labed under 'silly books'

>>15328690
name a bigger larp than the black natioanlist movement of the 70s

>>15323612
Why the fuck does everyone struggle so much with Calculus? That shit was easier to me than Geometry or the Unit Circle (which I still don't completely understand, I generally do all of my trig with triangles or a reference page). Is it simply because the education regarding Calc is so bad?

>>15323528
fractured sides

>>15329015
The white nationalist movement of the 80s

>>15324313
https://youtu.be/oIscL-Bjsq4

>>15324317
>no animalia
>no eleventh hour
>no stinky cheese man
>no frog and toad
what kind of zoomer chart is this?

>>15324370
very nice

someone should make a PKD chart if there isn't one already

>>15324665
this is based

>>15328690
why is naked lunch on there?

>>15328621
this is a great chart.
i just finished Hell House by Richard Matheson and im thinking about starting Goth by Otsuichi next

>>15329278
I’m not sure how you think the unit circle is harder to understand than calculus. Memorizing the associated angles and coordinates is one thing but the concept is elementary

>>15323577
>Chomsky
>Marxist
why do people not read the shit they recommend

>>15330313

>>15324561
have you seen modern books for children? its the same uninspired, flat, simple artwork that is churned out, and paid for, by the hour. how is that supposed to stimulate a child's imagination?

fashy charts pls

>>15324323
imagine giving a single shit about economics lmfao. the fact that it gives itself airs of being a science is laughable

>>15330899

>ubik and three stigmata in first timers

>>15327271
i see this chart has no title

>so you want to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?

>>15328674
EF schumacher is great. reading small is beautful right now.

>>15330975
I didn't make it

>>15323522
This is how Ben Franklin learned hahaha heeee weee AHAHAHA

>>15331007
It's about rhetoric

Anyone have a guide to anthropology?
Kinda want to get into it

>>15327271
a rhetoric of motives is one of the hardest, most out there books i have ever read

>>15331990
I'm so fuckin hyped for Susanna Clarke's second novel out later this year. The concept is amazing.

Best books to understand comsci? I have no intention of working in the field, but I want to make sure that 20 years from now I won't be a confused and lost boomer who's unable to comprehend reality around him.

>>15331703
stop posting this it's garbage

>>15331990
Also known as books to avoid starter kit

>>15331694
Go away NIO

>>15330970
>being a seething leftist

fresh OC.

>>15336312
Where's b8man?

>>15324306
Cringe

>>15324665
Not enough diversity.
Lacks essentials like Aloysius Gonzaga.

>>15336312
Starbuck is just as interesting as Ahab

>>15336793
not bad

>>15328602
Based and breadpilled

>>15328690
A lot of Ezra Pound for a leftist group lmao

>>15323522
Will following the chart on OP's pic make me good at math? I've always been a brainlet when it comes to math, looks like a good roadmap.

>>15333159
Atlas Shrugged isn't inaccessible. Maybe if you're retarded.

>>15338315

>>15323533

This. I only have an undergrad but I can assure you that isn't how mathematics education works.

Math, physics, economics, etc. can't be learned by procedurally reading books. They're not philosophy. It requires a lot more in-depth study.

>>15331694
Absolutely based (pun intended)

>>15338606
Blessed are thee, good anon. Do you have more?

>>15323522

>>15338591
I mean he is a liberal.

>>15338565

Don't start at proofs if you haven't even done calculus yet.

>>15338729
The lack of Brideshead Revisited is disturbing.

>>15331484
Can you narrow down some of your interests? And I'll try to throw out a few recommendations.

I can only speak to the US, but anthropology is often taught in a really unfortunate way. The 4 field model (ling anth, bio anth, sociocultural, and archeology) is still upheld as "what anthropology is", even though in practice this isn't really the case. Biological anthropology has mostly decamped to evolutionary biology departments, and mostly only exists at large state schools/very rich private schools that have the money and equipment to run highly specialized labs. At least in my experience, linguistic anthropology is a subset of sociocultural. Meanwhile, several to many high profile archaeology departments broke up with ethnography in the 90s and moved to separate buildings. Some have reconciled.

In my experience, anthro theory/anthro 101 courses are heavy on things that would better be thought of as part of the discipline's history. The content of those courses is usually some combination of basic social science texts (Marx, Weber, Durkheim, Mauss, Levi-Strauss, Foucault, etc) and a selection of "classic ethnographies" that are worthwhile, but don't captivate or make people want to continue in Anthro. The problem spaces and concerns of contemporary anthropology are really only alluded to in that sort of course. Nothing in Anthro 101 pitches what is both distinctive and applicable about anthropology for understanding the world today.

At the same time, anthropology is also one of the old 19th century master disciplines like natural history or philology -- except that it has somehow survived. As a result there's been a lot of soul searching and autocritique within anthropology (especially since the 80s, you've probably heard of the Writing Culture movement) about what that distinctive and applicable would be, and why it should be the domain of anthro, and not any number of other fields.

Anyawy, the Wikipedia page Bibliography of Anthropology is actually a fairly interesting list. Take a look over that, or else I can try to recommend some stuff if you have particular interests.

>>15331990
Fuck off women aren't writers

>>15324313
So this is what Guenonfags have to offer..

>>15323526
>>15323599
correct opinion

>>15323593
don't bullshit, you're not going to read any of that crap.

>>15325805
I heard good things about How To Solve it by Polya and How to Prove It. They are high level books, not real math textbooks.
I also heard good things about Spivak's Calculus.
I learned out of "A Transition to Advanced Mathematics"

The chart is dogshit because the entire thing just has you spinning in eddies of introductory remedial-level mathematics instead of useful math that leads to interesting applications. It's a waste of time.

If you want a good math curriculum, look at your state university's syllabus pages for all the core classes for a math major in sequence, and take the textbooks (plus supplemental texts if you're really a masochist) from each of them and just go through those.

All these charts were made by people who don't know what the fuck theyre talking about. People who shop amazon reviews for books instead of reading them. that goes for ALL THE CHARTS HERE not just this math one.

>>15323582
when are people going to stop posting this DOGSHIT. this chart is so bad that it PISSES ME OFF

It's bait-tier

>>15339211
Hi anon, thanks for the detailed reply.
I guess, based on what you said, I was leaning more towards ethnographies.
I got the idea more from a book I read 'lost worlds of Africa' (mix between travel journal and anthropology) which studied these isolated tribes in North Africa as well as their history.
I guess I was more looking about similar books like this (if they're called 'ethnographies'), but I have no idea where I would find such books.
Thanks for any help.

>>15339868
Basically I was just looking for ethnographies similar to this, where isolated tribes (anywhere in the world) are studied etc.
This book I read personally had too much 'travel diary' description for my liking.
Hope this helps.

>>15339868
>>15339907

Based on these you might start with Tristes Tropique by Claude Levi-Strauss. It is a similar mix of travelogue and anthropology which you might enjoy.

You might also like The Gift by Marcel Mauss, or Elementary Forms of Religious Life by Emile Durkheim.

These are all classic texts in social sciences, but also rather important for a wide range of anthropology. They're also all critiqued in anthropology for being rather dated with how they view "primitive" society. But they have interesting material and are worthwhile.

Maybe I should make an intro to anthropology chart.

bump

>>15339782
What's wrong with it?

>>15340868
Thanks a lot for the recs, anon.
Much appreciated!
>Maybe I should make an intro to anthropology chart.
Definitely. I was looking for one for quite a while and I'm pretty sure there isn't one that exists yet.

>>15342605
>no island by huxley

Instantly discredited

>>15323522
Is there one of these for Probability?

Are there other charts like this one?

>>15331390

Saving this as a psychiatry intern myself.

Most of it sounds like pop-psych though.

>>15339774
The textbooks that they use for undergrad math are generally shit though, its always shit like Stewart for calculus or strang for linear algebra. For self study there are far better options.

anyone have the monarchist chart?

>>15341973
This is such a bizarre and pointless chart. "Female Literature" is not a genre and these books have barely anything in common.

>>15343718
Apparently writing a book is an achievement if you're a woman

Anyone got a chart for French fiction/novellas?

What books am I missing?

>>15325796
It's there. I advise using the search function if you think it's there but can't find it. It's in book->authors.

>>15343472
>>15326250
>>15343883

>>15343883

>>15335399
very cool, thanks man

>>15342605
Is there also a dystopian one? Also if someone can post the Camus chart that would be nice. I saw it somewhere.

>>15345225
found it myself

Guys if I follow enough charts and consume large enough number of books, will I finally become happy?

>>15345537
but anon happiness doesn't come from outside , you can use books to see things differently and explore stuff you most likely missed
don't let anybody sell you a quick guide to happiness be it a pill an anime a girl or anything
nothing external works
what does work however is the continues self improvement and a change of perspective
your happiness comes from within and once you reach that
trust me nothing can take that away from you dear anon
don't give into quick fixes and life hacks

>>15345537
if your goal is to be happy then you dont even need to read.
just go full consumer npc be sure to keep out any material that would shatter your burger utopia.

>>15343125
Turn to anti-psychiatry and Lacanian psychoanalysis before you become brainwashed by psychiatry and it's too late.

>>15323522

>>15343108

>>15345732
cringe

Anyone got the julias evolia+ chart

>>15346669
Lemmi tell yuh that picture is too big to post this rasclaat ting here brudda

https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts

>>15323522
New version

what software do i use to make charts?

>>15346711
>https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts
thank anon

>>15347142
MS Paint

>>15347142
>what software do i use to make charts?
>>15347273
>MS Paint
serious answers please, i have oc i want to share

>>15347328
MS Paint was serious. You don’t need intensive high-end software.

>>15336793
If I only want to read one, which one would you recommend?

>>15347741
Text on the side of the picture literally addresses this exact question lol

>>15346855
I like them both, do you have secondaries that maybe cover history to add in there?

Why is there no straightforward flowchart for philosophy?
I just want to read the main pillars in chronological order?

>>15343281
Those are retard tier weed out classes anyway, who gives a fuck what you use there. They arent real math classes. They just teach you how to compute. It all gets done right anyway later in a math degree.

>>15348034
Ok so for a person trying to do self-study what should they use? If the charts and the university syllabi are bad where should they look?

>>15347994
First one is bad, t. author. Or rather, it succeeded at what it's intended to do, but I'm no longer convinced by its efficacy.

History of mathematics is a much different subject than mathematics itself, and as such should not be included in a guide on mathematics.

>>15336793

How would you rate digital minimalism? I've only just heard about it

>>15346855
I studied math in undergrad and hated it, now I graduated and wished I took it more seriously. Might go through this chart.

Is there a /lit/ chart for an actual full English Lit curriculum? I'm interested in the subject, know the degree is useless, and want to study on my own while I pursue an Engineering degree.

>>15348321
Sure but I'd be interested in what math does as well. If I wanted to learn programming I'm sure that has its place but yo know how or why it leads to ai is valuable as well vs just learning how to activate the library

>>15336312
>Ahab but not Ishmael
What the fuck?

>>15348659
If you have an interest in math you'll naturally pick up on its history. Particularly interesting movements would be the foundational movement of the 19th and early 20th century. It was shut down by Gödel, and our foundations are still a bit shaky from that.

>>15348660
>>15336802
>>15337769
Original chart maker here: Since fave characters is such a personal thing, I left the chart is unfinished. So if anyone wants to add their fave characters to the chart please do!

>>15348723
Yeah I get that and know that but I'm reading pic related and am interested in conversations like this but on a bunch of fields. Perhaps how it applies to linguistics or the history of the fight for the foundation, just some good nf to tie it together

>>15344315
Can't wait for last part. Keep going anon.
El Llano en llamas by Rulfo and Confabulario by Arreola are of the greatest short stories books of Latinamerica.

>>15348733
Kurtz from the Heart of Darkness.

>>15331703

>foreword by James Franco
Why

>>15349046
https://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/james_franco_my_image_is_a_creation_like_a_painting_or_a_movie/amp

>>15324313
Imagine thinking EVA is deep

>>15349085
It's star wars/ Harry Potter for 4chan and it does a damned bit better job

>>15330297
Yes I remember reading Frog and Toad and the Stinky Cheese Man with my mother as a little boy, good cozy memories.

>>15349144
im gonna look for a pdf of Stinky Cheese Man. its been probably like 20 years since i read it.
would be more but i think i even read it to the kid i used to babysit.

>>15349232
I gave shonen jump to kid I babysat

>>15349232
>>15349144
fucking hell i forgot about this
one of my favs

>>15328602
Distributism is cringe just become/say you're a commie

>>15324715
What would you call it?

>>15346855
no baby rudin?

>>15339774
>>15343281
>>15348034
for the record: Chicago honors math undergraduate curriculum (what math majors do) is Spivak for Calculus and Principles of Mathematical Analysis (Baby Rudin) for Analysis. These seem to be standards for the undergraduate level

>>15324317
this is good because I can hardly read

>>15349301
thats much cooler than mine.
i used to love reading him stories though.

>>15349304
there's a cbr files of it on soulseek. im gonna read it to myself at bedtime

>>15338606
schismpilled

>>15346847
based

>>15336312
>woland, behemoth and korovyev
based, based and based

>>15347784
they must have too much ADD to even read that

>>15343704
im actually proud of myself for having read a sizeable portion of this list. id say probably a little less than half.

>>15349376
>Chicago

Book recommendations for people that want to see things for how they really are

>Principles of Communism by Engels
>Communist Manifesto by Marx/Engels
>State and Revolution by Lenin
>Socialism, Utopian and Scientific by Engels
>Political Economy: A Beginner's Course A. Leontiev
>In Defence of Bolshevism by Max Shachtman
>The Fate of the Russian Revolution: Lost Texts of Critical Marxism, volume 1
>Can socialism make sense? by Sean Matgamna
>The left in disarray by Sean Matgamna
>Russian Revolution: when workers took power Paul Vernadsky
>Socialism From Below by Hal Draper
>Karl Marx’s Theory of Revolution (5 volumes, you can get it at montlyreview.org) by Hal Draper
>Towards the Understanding of Karl Marx: A Revolutionary Interpretation by Sidney Hook
>Indefensible by Rohini Hensman
>HATE: Why We Should Resist It with Free Speech, Not Censorship by Nadine Strossen
>Mistaken Identity by Asad Haider
>Betraying Big Brother by Leta Hong Fincher
>The People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips Michal Rozworski
>Austerity Ecology & the Collapse-Porn Addicts by Leigh Phillips
>Hired: Six months undercover in low-wage Britain by James Bloodworth
>The Wind in My Hair: My Fight for Freedom in Modern Iran by Masih Alinejad
>Revolution In Danger by Victor Serge
>Witness to the German Revolution by Victor Serge
>Year One of the Russian Revolution by Victor Serge
>C. L. R. James and Revolutionary Marxism Edited by Paul Le Blanc and Scott McLemee

>>15346847
wtf im BTFO now!

>>15347328
if youre willing to upload all the covers to an image hosting site, like imgur, and drag and drop them into another tab, then try www.neverendingchartrendering.com

>>15349144
>>15349304
just finished reading it.
it was just as good as i remembered

>>15349944
thanks anon ill have to get it

>>15349740
what do you want me to call it brainlet?

>>15348508
hoarding digital possessions instead of physical ones isn't minimalism, it's just sad

>>15348733
i was always partial to archimboldi in 2666, especially how as soon as he finishes a book he gives it away

>>15348942
thanks mate. Last part should be out pretty soon as I think it's the shortest of them all

>>15347328
ms paint you retard, have a look at what charts are

>>15345225

>>15323522

>>15351749
https://www.amazon.com/FABULOUS-BOOKS-LOOKING-AUTHOR-NON-EXISTENT/dp/3000543562
http://phantomlibrary.beczmiana.pl/index.php?/tekstytexts/english-version/

>>15328690
White Panthers and the other white leftist movements were so fucking larpy

>>15349703
You should be proud man
You've read more actual literature with substance than 99 percent of normies, and 98%of /lit/

>>15351869
I love these kinds of things.

is there one for learning french?

>>15349703
it's a legit accomplishment

>>15351472
Thanks. BNW as a utopia triggers me though

>>15349703
Congrats you have no individual taste

Any chart about Virgin Mary? I don't know where to start. Christian /lit/ always talk about God or Jesus.

>>15349376
Yeah those are fine choices

I am of the opinion that rudin is too difficult and uninstructive. Why make it harder than it needs to be? It is pointless. I learned from Bartle and it was really clearly written.

Just read Taos analysis.

>>15348274
My point was that for that level of classes it doesn't matter.

Strang is fine as a first linear algebra course. Axler is fine too. Spivak is fine for calculus. All these are great, even.

Maybe Stewart calculus is inadequate because it is so expensive and needlessly big with a million exercises, it's not really something you can read through, at least how I remember it. I learned calculus out of Stewart and it was fine. You probably could too.

With math, only grasping the material matters, how you were presented to it doesn't matter at all.

>>15323533
That's because mathematicians do not know how to read.
Actually, literature about mathematics is ridiculous.

>>15346855
This one has the same problem as the first. Do you realize D&F is 1000 pages long?

These are fairy tale make believe charts. How can you expect to make a chart if you don't know the material yourself? Omfg

Read Spivak, Axler, whatever intro to Diffeq text you want, Taos analysis sequence and the parts of D&F that you care about, and watch lecture videos on YouTube, try and do enough of the exercises that you understand what is going on. That will encompass the entire chart

if you guys want a guide to math by someone who knows wtf he is talking about look at "how to become a good theoretical physicist" by Gerard thooft. He put together what seems to me like a great list. The first part of the list is pure math. It basically encompasses the analysis side of undergraduate mathematics. I think he even recommends the same books I have in my previous paragraph.

But seriously take it from someone who knows what they're talking about not charts a C-grade high schooler made to posture with on anonymous image boards

>>15341392
Like the math chart I was also going off about it is totally uneven. If you were to read all of the books you would come away having seen a bunch of introductions over and over again, and at the same time sometimes having been exposed to super deep things with no equipment to interpret or care about it.

The fact that this chart in particular is so widely shared tells me that the people sharing these charts are not people who actually read the books on them. have you tried reading the books on it? I have. It is a crap progression.

Have you tried actually reading Edith Hamilton's book? It is a book designed for high school curricula. Its insight is asinine. Hesiods two poems (which are like 50 pages long) are a really dry cultural artifact that is useless to anyone who isn't actively studying that stuff. No one gives a fuck about any of these books other than the Iliad in the Odyssey. They certainly do not need these bullshit "prerequisites" like the chats suggest

>>15324317
WHERE is COMMOTION IN THE OCEAN?

>>15343704
Dang only read 30.5

>>15345732
No Milestones or Reliance of the Traveler?

>>15336793
how_to_become_a_capitalist_slave.png

>>15353556
t. Has never read Jurassic Park

>>15345225
>Is there also a dystopian one?
Yeah, with Das Kapital on the list.....

>>15349342
¿?

Anarchist /lit/

Anyone got a libertarian chart?

>>15354112
>not consuming porn is capitalist goy
>your attention not being hijacked by the attention economy and entertainment Jews in capitalist slavery
>accomplishing tasks you intend to accomplish is capitalist slavery
kys chapotard nigger.

>>15346847
The upsetting part of this is that it's accurate

Probably the best chart in the thread

Are the Islam charts any good?

>>15323577
The more I read -- the more Capitalist I become. What happened?

>>15345633
What is the goal of the reader?

does anyone have a chart on the dialogues by plato? I have a complete set but dont know where to start

>>15355678
Just read it in the order of the collection. A good online secondary source is good for understanding the significance

>>15352329
>>15352647
thanks, i actually came here in 2015 after seeing the /lit/ top 100 books and being impressed with their taste. i don't mind admitting my newfaginess because i figure its a slightly better reason than coming because of the election

>>15324665
Oh-súuna, el negrito de ojos claros

>>15324323
> being so dumb you think human productive activity can be summarized on a 2-D plot with two intersecting lines

>>15346416
v good list

>>15355842
>being so dumb you think any attempts to empiricize nature is trying to account for everything all at once

>>15352892
its not like ive ONLY read those books.

>>15354940
you didnt read closely enough

>>15354056
that's still a lot. and 30 more than most anons

>>15354836
when mom cuts the tendies supply in half

>>15323522

>>15335399
>no Nusic, Domanovic, Kocic, Pekic and Kis
never gonna make it

Houellebecq Chart

>>15343704
>tfw read 57 books from that list
We're all gonna make it, lads

>>15353600
I have read all the books I put on there. What makes these "fairy tale make believe charts"? You mention Axler and so do I, so I'm not sure what you're on about. If you skip A&O our recommendations are identical.

>>15324715
what the fuck? yes it does retard

REQUESTING
the download links for packs in the sticky (specifically the iranian literature pack) the files are fucked and gone. can these be revitalized? does anyone have them?

>>15357465
I have'em but too lazy to share kek

>>15357753
come on, man. be a good fren.