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guenon gravely disrespected sufism by half-assing its traditions while really only being interested in hinduism

>>15256659
>by half-assing its traditions
So was he a larper?

>ak47 in the library
BASED

>>15256636
Wasnt Guenon a Muslim?

>>15257938
sufism and salafism are both muslim traditions

>>15257902
All “Traditionalists” and “perennialists”. They bring shame to the deen when they LARP as Muslims

>>15258157
>All “Traditionalists” and “perennialists
Are larpers I meant

>>15258157
Salafis are LARPers too

>>15257942
how's Sufism related to Gnosticism?

>>15258157
Are they considered kafir?

>>15256659
>disrespected sufism by half-assing its traditions
what did he do wrong in the traditions?

>>15258577
Yes
http://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/islamic-law/perennial-philosohpy/

>>15256636
Bin Laden was a hero

Salafism is an aqidah,means Athari. Although that's a misnomer as not all the Salaf were Athari, just most (Iman Abu Hanifa wasn't). It's also used to refer to a cult of Saud loyalists, whom Bin Laden obviously wasn't.

Outside of that it's a buzzword. Guénon didn't accept Athari creed because he was a pantheist, that simple

>>15258707
Very few Sufis are as fringe as he was. Some are, but most are like Muhammad Taqi Usmani

>>15258769
how do you know so much about islam? can you recommend some beginner books?

>>15258780
not him, but what's your intention? what do you want to learn? Islam is a very broad field, if someone told me to recommend an islam book for beginners, I'd tell him to read the '40 hadith of Nawawi'.

Madkhali Salafism is the final and most authentic form of Islam.

>>15256636
Why didn't he convert to orthodoxy instead of larping as a dunecoon?

>>15259130
Cause he didn't have the humility to recognize the falsehood of perennialism and God's providence sent him into a weird gnostic sect of Islam instead

>>15258769
why do people shit on jews for usury then go on to praise capitalism?

>>15259116
No. They are kuffar. Anybody who doesn't declare the rulers of the 'Muslim' countries to kuffar, belongs to them.

>>15259161
Sounds like Muslim Brotherhood kuffar shit.

>>15259171
Nah muslim brotherhood and Mursi ain't better, also they're an Erdogan fanclub.

>>15259161
On what grounds are they kuffar? And which rulers do you mean?

>>15259233
Not him but Madkhalis believe that even rulers who are kuffar have been allowed to rule by the will of Allah. Thus, to go against them is to go against the will of Allah. Because of this Madkhalis are willing to accept secular governments.

>>15259233
ALL rulers.

'And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the disbelievers.” [5:44]

>>15259141
Usury is communism, its cutting down two apple trees for every seed planted. Marx called for a central bank

>>15258780
newmuslimacademy.org

>>15259402
You're an idiot.

If I were going to join a muslim sect that wasn't Sufism, I would join a Shia sect. Ayatollah Khomeini had some interesting gnostic views early in his life, very neat if youve never heard of it

>>15259402
>usury is communism

OP is an idiot who can't tell the difference between traditionalism and reformist fundamentalism.
>So you're a Christian traditionalist? Then why are you not a protestant if they're the ones advocating the return to traditional christianity

>>15260090
>I would join a Shia sect

>>15260124
>Arabs are better than Persians

Imagine having this take.

>Imagine having this take.

what does pbuh mean?

>>15260132

>>15260133
Penis be upon him

>>15260133
peanut butter under him

>>15260171

>>15260176
delicious. . .

>>15256636
Salafis would have a major speegour over Guenon having even the slightest admiration for Hinduism at all. Salafism is anti perennialist and anti philosophy. Besides that they are very Arab centric specially at the time when the Wahabist clergy hadn't quite become buddies with other Islamic revivalists and were mainly focused in Arabia.

>>15260192
>>15260132
Pre Mordern Sunnism was pretty good but Post Ottoman Sunnism is pretty boring. If you actually met an Ottoman Sunni he would be confused why you were so unwilling to ask holy men for intercession or believe in their miracles or why you weren't part of some Sufi order.

>>15260110
Who is this image supposed to attack anyway? I seriously have no idea, its like a made-up political ideology.

>>15260132
Arabs had a few centuries of good luck before being completely sidelined by both the Turks and the Persians who took control of basically every sect of the faith.

>>15260110
>authority is good
Why would a lolbertarian say this?

>>15256636
Becoming Salafi is the equivalent of becoming a KJV only fundamentalist literalist baptist

>>15260759
Why is /lit/ so full of heathen sufi grave worshipping larpers?

>>15258157
As do Salafist Takfiri dogs

>>15259141
I don't. Laissez-faire capitalism is trash.

>>15256636
Take the /klit/ pill.

>>15260968
I'm not a Muslim

>>15260558
Or have a boy give you a hand job

>>15260980
Equating Salafi with takfiri shows you don't grasp the meaning of either term.