/lit/ - Literature

>>15234439
maybe if you replace dialectical materialism with psychoanalysis

>>15234439
It wasn’t even relevant in the 19th

>>15234439
I would argue that alienation in the work force, consolidation of power, and false consciousness (although attributed more to Enegls) is more relevant than ever.

>>15234475
*Engels.
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His analytic judgments of the Capitalist economy, alone, provide a radically new and clearer perspective of our society. It is very satisfying analyzing newly found dichotomies and divisions in our society (Ex. Fundamental and Subsumed Class Processes). I'm looking to reading more of his work, but from what I have read, Marx has greatly progressed Economic thought and is clearly an intellectual descendent of men like Smith and Ricardo.

He was based and even far right wingers unknowingly evoke products of his own economic theory

very much. I think pic related does a good job of following the general path set by Marx, while being strident enough to deviate from orthodoxy.

the main point of departure for Kanyal is the how the idea of sequential capitalism doesn't account for neo imperialist globalisation and the non-capitalist economies that are created as a result of capitalist economy at large

As far as I've read of him, he paints the anger of the workingman perfectly. The first chapter of The Communist Manifesto is pure gold. I think I disagree with the solutions he brought forth which practically call for a rebellion to take out the bourgeoisie.

Is he relevant right now? Absolutely. It's even worse now, some workingmen have been delusioned into protecting and supporting the wealthy. "YeS OpEn ThE EcOnoMY! My TeSlA lOrD saYs to!!"

His diagnosis is clear and true. His solutions are controversial to say the least. But even then, when the wealthy monopolize money in such a way that only preserves and enriches them while the mass is abused to live paycheck by paycheck - how can the workingman not go for blood?

>>15234577
Parts of the Communist Manifesto can easily be described as reactionary. It is very logical conclusion for a nationalist to embrace an economics that is uncapitalist. There is nothing right-wing about free trade capitalism since capitalism is a very volatile system.

>>15234439
Not really. Marxism academically survives in cultural studies and social sciences, and has little to no practical use in political economy. Even unionism has been dramatically diminished ever since the 80s and 90s when the Labor and left wing parties of the Anglo world embraced neoliberalism lite as their standard operating procedure, and have now largely replaced organized labor with organized consumer demographics balkanised along lines like race, gender, sexuality, and so on. Marxism if anything is at an extremely low ebb and people who think otherwise tend to subscribe to these weird notions that in order for capital to lose it must first dominate everything so much that it causes it's own destruction. This sort of idea allows people to rationalize the fact that they are losing by believing that losing is winning. Fascism is actually showing itself less in name or definition, but more in the total neglect of workers by the left, allowing right wing politicians to appeal to them on undiscussed and buried issues of class that express themselves in issues like globalism and immigration.

>>15234439
If it wasn't relevant, it wouldn't occur to you to ask if it's relevant.

>>15234617
Well said, and I agree.

>>15234439
Yes, more than ever

>>15234442
sniff

>>15234439
FOR A THIRD OF THE ECONOMY!

>>15234648
All that needs to be said. Marxism is useful but hardly affects the material world anymore if at all

>>15234439
Yes, his fundamental critique and explanation is still ultimately valid regardless of whether their has been some slight changes. Until the economy functions in a drastically different way Marx will still be relevant.

nah, its become pretty clear that his ideas are virtually impossible to implement even when you win your revolution

>>15234439
Yessir.

Surplus Value is a very real concept and has not become irrelevant since the time of his death. Wage/Labour and Private Property are still just as relevant as concepts. The LTV May be a little outdated, but that’s about it.

>>15234475
This is true.

>>15234617
>>15234627
>The Manifesto
That was just a propaganda piece that he was forced to write for a party he was in (and Marx ended up leaving this group) It does a terrible job describing marxist theory.

>>15235190
Very little of his work is about implementing ideas though. Mostly just straight critique of the prevailing orthodoxy. Method of analysis rather than rigid ideas, which Marx even says himself as any change will have to be based of prevailing material conditions ect.

>>15234439
Fuck no
https://mises.org/library/murray-n-rothbard-books
Read REAL theory, anon.

>>15234439
China exists, so yes. It's still relevant to have some knowledge of it if you want the fullest grasp of the modern world and its current situation even if you're think every single idea Marx had was wrong, modern China is capitalist, or whatever else.

>>15235191
Refuted by Bataille

>>15235571
bataille is a retard

>>15235478
Nobody gives a shit about your retard who thinks value is not created by labor. That's literally commodity fetishism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism

>>15235478
Go molest some children ayncrap

>>15237796
You have to pay VAT whether you work or not though

>>15234667
Are you retarded?

>>15234439
>marx
yea still worth reading and relevant
>marxism
depends on which marxist you read, some are awful and some are decent

>>15237796
>Taxation is slavery
Not really the slogan, is it?

His ideas are outdated and irrelevant to modern economy.
LTV has been refuted by fiat money, its basically metaphysical speculation. The falling rate of profits has never been proven. In the 1930s Keynes was already pointing out how marxism has become irrelevant
Nobody outside gender studies classes takes this clown serious anymore

>>15238489
>His ideas are outdated and irrelevant to modern economy.
wrong every single revolutionary movement around the globe is inspired by marx. marx is relevant as long as capitalism is

>>15238646
>wrong every single revolutionary movement around the globe is inspired by marx
Even the French Revolution?

>>15234439
Just a reminder that this guy never bathed and was covered in purulent carbuncles most of his life. People that had the pleasure of meeting him said that he smelled like ammonia and human waste.

>>15238489
>LTV has been refuted by fiat money
How so?

>>15234439
Yes, but the problem with Communism is that you're just trading one form of tyranny for another.

>>15238489
...
Marx himself said that LTV was not a general theory, and specific criterium have to be applied. You should know this if you had read the wikipedia pages of labor theory of value and law of value.

>>15235210
cringe

>>15234439
I'm not an expert on this matter but I've heard that the true intellectual was Engels, Marx was just a drunk piece of shit that went bankrupt several times, if Marx was good at something it was at cursing through the letters he wrote during life.

If you're a statist cuck then sure. Otherwise, not really.
>I can't wait to rebel against our leaders!
>. . . so that we can have different leaders!
Ok sport. Genius.

>>15238679
Just a reminder:
https://daily.jstor.org/when-americans-started-bathing/

>>15238783
> "The bourgeoisie will remember my carbuncles until their dying day," Marx told Friedrich Engels in a letter from 1867.
Having horrible pustulent skin is noble, ok retard?

>>15234442
Zizek isn't "replacing" dialectical materialism with psychoanalysis, he's supplementing dialectical materialism with psychoanalysis. His psychoanalysis is still rooted in a dialectical conception of the relationship between being and nonbeing.

A detailed, dense, critique of capitalism definitely is, why wouldn't it be?

A manifesto about living in communes? No