/lit/ - Literature

>>15173084
Be honest /lit/, have you really read more than 30 books in your life ?

>>15173084

>>15173096
I read more than 30 every 5 years or so

>>15173096
Yes.

>>15173096
Yes, unless we're using some other definition of read

>>15173105
>>15173117
>>15173103
japanese light """"""novels""""" don't count

>>15173096
Yes, but it was all during my teenage years. Now I just buy books I don't have the time to read and pretend I have.

>>15173096
I read 30 books in 2-3 months.

>>15173096
no i only read wikipedia

I have around 200, but I'm renting. Once I move to my own place I plan to hit 1000.

I'd ask Marie Kondo "why?"

>>15173172
>I'd ask Marie Kondo "why?"
U WANT CREANU HAUSU?
YOU GOTTA REMOVE ARR CRUTTER
EMPTY HOUSE EMPTY BRAIN HAPPY RIFE

>>15173084
Here's the thing though; I'm not friggin nipponese

>>15173084
Imagine having the window and not having a small desk in front of it where you write verse and drink coffee in the mornings.
> tv

I own over 500 and the name Kondo is mysteriously missing from my K section. I cannot imagine why.

>>15173084
I mean anon, I...I no it’s not embarrassing, it’s... cute... yah cute.

>>15173126
What on earth are those?

>>15173126
web novels do though, right?

>>15173084
kill your television, gen x'r

>>15173084
>cassettes
>VHS
>CRT TV
>vinyl
better days

>>15173084
>cluttered and busy living quarters
Why are people so obsessed with keeping shiny shitty trinkets all over their house?

I have 650 books, and the Jap ain't touching a single one.

>>15173202
>tfw have lived in the city all my life
>tfw am unlikely ever to be able to live somewhere like that
Life is nothing but suffering.

>>15173096
I’ve read more than thirty books in the last year and I’m a slow reader, if you read less than 10 books a year you definitely shouldn’t be here, and that is a low bar for entry.
>>15173176
jej

>>15173084
Marie Kondo can eat my ass, like my favourite JAV performer.

>>15173133
>dont have the time to read

That's bullshit and you know it.

>>15173084
From age 16-26 I read about 8 books a year. From 27-30, I read about 15 books a year. Last year I read about 25. I've read 5 this year so far.

>>15173202
How do they mow their roofs? Just put a goat up there?

>>15174005
>How do they mow their roofs? Just put a goat up there?
My understanding is that the amount of stuff up there to grow in is quite shallow and the plants are quite aggressive.

>>15174005
In sheepland, yes.

>>15173096
I usually read 30 or more a year.

>>15173084
And almost all of those books should be unread. Keeping a shelf full of read books like trophies is just narcissism.

>>15173202
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>15174005
people with turf roofs unironically actually mow their roofs

>>15173096
Yeah, but most of them weren't that good and I was mostly trying to skim as quickly as possible through them to get them done.
For some reason, reading fancy words is more stimulating for the than actually trying to imagine stuff or much less make connections between scenes or themes
Maybe this is why I failed Literature class in college despite being a "big reader".

>>15173126
Those are the only kind of books I actually enjoy.

I read three books last week, and I’m gonna finish my third book for this week today. I don’t even speedread.

Joke's on you, Marie. I have an entire room which is just wall to wall books.

Simplicity is not an excuse to stop BOOOOOOOOOKING

>>15174038
...what?

>>15173096
I read 3000 books about every day

>>15174283
once you finish a book you should immediately give it away or ideally it should be a library book that you return. Owning books you plan to read serves a purpose in that they are there for immediate access when you get around to reading them. Owning books you've already read is hoarding at best and trophy-keeping narcissism at worst.

Got like 250 books on my kindle

>>15174312
puritanical nonsense

>>15174312
What if you’ve just bought the book and is expensive?

>>15174308
Based meltdown

>>15174312
This is a very childish take. Going back to the same book at different points in your life provide a different perspective and ultimately a different meaning. I like to revisit certain books every 5 years or so.

>>15173096
LITERALLY 40ish

>>15174312
What if I reread my books every year?

>>15173096
i read 3x that just last year alone.
>>15173084
>buyfags btfo yet again

>>15173084
She's right on. Paraphrasing an old Hebrew saying "He who brings more than 24 books into his house brings also confusion"

If readers collectively realize it's more important to keep books circulating than autistically hoarded, we'd probably all have extremely based used bookstores in our home towns that offer cash for books you aren't going to re-read anyway

>>15176534
>unironically listening to japs and jews
kek

>>15173133
if you have time for posting on 4chan you have time to read

She never said that

>>15174005
i'd think they'd go up there with a scythe but those roofs look pretty steep for a sod roof.

>>15176581
Re-read the second paragraph and refute that.

>woman

I expected nothing more

>>15173084
There's something eerie about this picture, as if it was some fake room that it was about to break down and show the bleaker reality behind it. It might be the TV.

>>15177365
You mean like a model home where everything you see is fake, or like PKD's UBIK where entropy is eating away at everything?

>>15174273
Update. I’m starting my fourth book this week today. Let’s see id I can finish it before Sunday. That will be a record for me, I think

>>15173133
>on 4chan
>no time to read

>>15177390
Oops, meant for
>>15174177

>>15173126
Monogatari series counts

>>15173176
KEK

>>15177387
More of an UBIK feel, definitely

>>15174038
And almost all of those books you should intend to reread. Thinking you’re finished with a book because you’ve read it once is just narcissism.

>>15177528
It's better to sell it, honestly.. It keeps the bookstores thriving. You can always rebuy something, and don't act like the copy you read first has actual sentimental value.

>>15173084
Unfathomably based and tremendously redpilled.

>>15173144
Absolutely based

>>15177643
Any /lit/izen would prefer to have a thriving used bookstore nearby which adds to, or at least rotates, their selection every week or two.
>A lot of interesting books to choose from
>Plenty of "new arrivals" to choose from every time you stop in
In order for this, their customers must buy AND sell from it frequently. If you're not going to pick it up (or re-read it) within a year, sell it. If you havent touched something in a year, sell it.

Think of the bookstore like your own personal storage unit. The additional cost for repurchasing a book you've sold back once is just a few bucks, that's the storage fee.

>>15173202
That's a really nice picture, thank you anon.

>>15177839
>>15177643
You fail to realize that I am the only person in the entire universe with actual refined taste, and that me throwing my pearls before the swine will net me nothing but their droppings.

>>15173096
yeah

>>15174432
Is that quote attributed to Land?

>>15173133
>no time to read

>>15173176
heh

>>15173599
>>tfw am unlikely ever to be able to live somewhere like that
Why not anon?

What about ebooks they occupy zero space.

>>15173084

>woman

Opinion discarded. Kys.

>>15173096
yes, not all of them are super long though

The Iliad
The Odyssey
The Complete Works of Plato
The Complete Works of Aristotle
Odes of Horace
The Canterbury Tales
The Faerie Queene
The King James Bible
Complete Works of William Shakespeare
Complete Works of John Donne
Collected Poems of John Milton
Complete Works of William Blake
The Phenomenology of Spirit
The Science of Logic
Moby Dick
Capital
Ulysses
Collected Poems of Wallace Stevens
Lacan’s Écrits
Bottom’s Dream
Infinite Jest
The Pale King
The Collected Stories of Lydia Davis
My Struggle
Less than Nothing
Absolute Recoil
Sex and the Failed Absolute
Collected Poems of John Ashbery
Collected Poems of Monica Youn
The Chicago Manual of Style

That's right, if you are seriously reading books and gather information from them, then keep everything you need in electronic form. If the books are fetish and decoration for you, then follow the advice and keep the tasteful number of them.

"Only read 4 books."
- Schopenhauer

>>15173084
What you faggots all forget is that Marie Kondo is Japanese, and the typical Japanese apartment is as big as a closet. This rule only applies to them. If you have a large house or decent sized apartment, you can easily ignore the less then 30 books rule.

>>15173084
How are you supposed to watch that TV when it's turned 45 degrees to the couch AND the window light comes from behind it and reflects from the screen?

>>15178116
>Why not anon?
not him, but feel the same way.
because
>burgerland has nothing like this
>even if it did, i'd still want to be able to economically support a family

>>15178857
>Dick
kek

>>15179048
Still plenty of comfyrural areas, they don't have to look exactly like this. You could even make one yourself. Cost of living is super cheap outside of the big cities. Remote work is also an option, I'm in Dublin and some people I work with live out in rural Ireland and just drive 2 hours into the city once or twice a month.

>>15173084

Interior designers and "organizers" of all types hate books. This is because when you invite one of these people into your home (whether in person or via TV/internet), you're doing so because you have a notion that your home environment should change somewhat. A pile of books represents something that has to be accomodated, worked around/not got rid of. The designer hates this because the designer's whole job is to rearrange everything.

i think 45-60 books is a good limit
30 is too few

>>15173144
Destiny?

That's what God invented the SD-card for tho

>>15173172
she'd ask why you're paying good money to store a bunch of books that if you read at all you'll probably only read once

>>15173084
this isn't set in stone, she even says that in the book

>>15179523
this is pure retardation, interior designers buy up old bound books in big lots just to decorate houses

>>15173084
marie kondo is based as fuck. shes right btw

>>15180343

No, it isn't. You're confusing incidental prop changes with the original props which are of a similar type. The point for the designer is to throw some other crap into a room that was their crap that they came up with, not your crap. Your betrayal-word here is "decorate": i.e. not a serious wall of books, but an accent of say 30 or so volumes in one spot.

If you've ever worked with or been a middle-manager type, you'd know that they do things different from their predecessor for the sake of doing things different, because that's what the client implicitly wants. In the case of the middle manger, the client is the employer, and in the case of the interior designer and related jobs, it's the person in the house who hires them (a roundabout way of saying client, or customer).

>>15173084
What would be your 30, lads?

>>15180379

Building on this, if you've ever been in an Ikea showroom for example, they have stacks of the same book to place on furniture and give a sense of handling the furniture, what can be done with it. The point being that I'm aware of the physical book-buying for certain interior design purposes and you're still wrong. Again, it isn't a serious wall of books.

>>15173096
I've read more than 300. Not 3000 though.

>>15173126
Cringe

>>15173096
No, I have only read about twenty but I guarantee you I have more wisdom than people who have read 100. Only a few books I would say even had a real effect on me.

>>15173084
>"Ideally, keep less than 30 [video tapes]"
>"Ideally, have the smallest possible personal library to share with your children."

>>15173084
>Ideally, don't take advice from representatives of a culture that is so profoundly broken that it is both actively and passively killing itself to a higher degree than any other culture on earth, with those who do not have the fortitude to tie the noose choose not to reproduce

>>15173133
Bro like I read 30-60 pages an hour depending on how intense the stuff is.
In 3 hours I can hence read 90-180 pages.
What do you usually accomplish in 3 hours a day, especially now with quarantine? Think which one of those two you take more from

>>15173096
I've read more than 30 books since the start of this year. It's not hard.

>>15173084

i'm now clocking in at around a 15,000-book library. i don't think kondo would approve.

then again, i don't think kondo would agree with a library in principle.

>>15173133
>I don't have the time to read
How about listening to dialogues? https://mega.nz/folder/utchyAAK#GTVl1fINpekEch95xj8Fmg

>>15173096
I read Animorphs in a year when I was a kid. That's 60 books there. Haven't read too much since tho

>>15183444
>The complete Animorphs canon and nothing else
Should be one of those books you must read before you die lists 2bh

>>15173096
What do you consider read? I find I don't read cover to cover since most books turn out to be shit. At least in non-fiction, its not worth the slog.

There's little reason to have a massive library of books when you can get almost everything you'd want to read at the library or online to read on an e-reader. Books take up a lot of space and are a HUGE pain when you're moving. My parents read an enormous number of books (each 70+ per year), and you'd never know it just from looking at their house. I read a lot too and have a very underwhelming bookshelf.

>>15184206
I read one Animorphs book that I got from some sort of book club deal from a Scholastic Book Orders thing in 5th grade. I did not care for it and my parents quickly cancelled the book club membership.

>>15173096

What the fuck. I don’t even read and I can name you 30 books from my cringe young adult years and being forced to read for school. You actually have to be some sort weird alien if you didn’t read 30 books(or live in a third world country)

Harry Potter 1-7
LotT 1-3
The Hobbit
Hunger Game 1-3
Cather in the Rye
To Kill a Mocking Bird
Moby Dick
Life of Pie
Flowers for Algernon
The Hatchet
The Giver
Oryx and Crake
The Stranger
Lord of the Flies
The Great Gatsby
Candide
Sophie’s World
The Book Thief
Kite Runner
Holes

Imagine reading less than me when I don’t even read. It makes me wonder what school you want to.

>>15173096
I don't read, I'm just here to jeer at fags.

>>15179048
There are a lot of rural areas not far from larger towns with good jobs. They're more expensive than true country living, but not prohibitively more expensive. You can have a tech job in central or western Virginia and live in an old farm house with acreage a half hour drive from work. Look for the outskirts of southern college towns, though maybe not right now.

>>15184286
Why do you even come to /lit/ if you don't read?

>>15173096
I have read all 64 Animorphs books so yes

>>15184354
Browsing 4chan cuz bored

>>15173096
already read >30 in 2020

>>15182527
>15k books
you havent read that many. did you buy literally every book you got your hands on, regardless of quality? there aren't even 15k books worth reading.
>>15183444
jesus christ how depressing

>>15178857
>My Struggle
Nobody knows what the book is unless you call it by it's original name.
Four and a Half Years (of Struggle) Against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice

>>15173084
my last amazon order was 45 books alone
this bitch is clearly a pseud

>>15180382
>Cambridge complete Kant (15 volumes)
>Critical editions of Aristotle's De Anima, Metaphysics, and Politics
>Complete Aristotle (2 volumes)
>Negative Dialectics
>Minima Moralia
>Extant Epicurus
>Moral Philosophy from Montaigne to Kant (2 volumes edited by J.B. Schneewind)
>Capital volumes 2 and 3
>Marx Later Political Writings
>Portable Nietzsche or similar anthology
>Norton Anthology of Poetry

>>15185074
>Capital volumes 2 and 3
Kek, keeps the exoteric, leaves the esoteric and most relevant part of his theory. What a plebeian. Marie Kondo would be proud.

>>15177893
this but unironically

>>15173096
I haven't read more than the half of that number, but i've read and re-read life innumerable times, and believe me, that's the only book that you need to read.

>>15173096
I don't even read your shitposts on /lit/ anymore
>>15173084
And you wonder why she named herself condo?

>>15184376
t.

>>15185324
Unironic typo for 1 & 3. Not sure what you think is particularly esoteric about capital vol 1 though

>>15173096
I've read 13 this year.

Does everyone here read entire books?

>>15173084
Japanese culture is anti-intellectual in nature. They trust emotions, bodily passions, and age-old superstitions first.

>>15185434
It's the most difficult to fully understand if you work it hard enough. The rest are pretty easy and Marx made them that way on purpose.

>>15185074
based and categorical pilled

>>15173084
>"Ideally, keep less than 30 books."
Except she never said this

>>15185471
Are the rest then meant to be read first, if they're the easiest?

>tfw nothing brings me joy anymore

>>15185651
God no, the first one is the most difficult one but the fundamental one, and also actually the most forgotten one by activists and working class movements. Could you read the 2nd and the 3rd, lets say after skimming through the 1st one? sure, you could but you wound have a partial and poor understanding of marx's analysis of capitalism.

"Eat ass everyday"
- Marie Kondo

Why are we talking about books like they're sexual conquests? How many books do y'all keep for reference? Or because they meant something to you?