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Sounds like you need some jhana or gnosis in your diet.

>>15153978
You are the only true evaluator of the value of the things you do, want to do, and fail to do. If you truly felt that life was meaningless like that you would have killed yourself already. Suicide is the only true problem of philosophy.

>>15153978
World view actually doesn't effect how happy people are to the degree that most people think it does. I've met multiple suicidal depressed Christians who believed that their life had objective purpose in devotion to god but they couldn't deal with the most animal parts of themselves which felt absolutely miserable despite that

I think people overestimate the harshness of reality, most problems are artificially imposed or entirely mental.

>>15153993
I meditate daily and I agree with OP

>>15153978
Mike go to bed

>>15154011
There's a lot of material suffering in the world although I suppose you could call most of that artificial, it's just not self imposed

>>15153978
>Billions of years from now the son will implode, thats why life in the present is meaningless.

babbies first nihilism.

>>15154021
As do I, I've simply invested too much time in this meat suit to seriously consider offing myself anymore. Might as well opt for a mindset that makes things not suck as bad the next few decades of your life.

>>15153978
sauna with friends

>>15153978
Distractions are what’s making you suffer. Look into meditation; the present moment is actually extremely blissful.

Alright, what about that?

>>15154141
meditation is evil

>By what measure can one say that all of this was for nothing? If you believe that the finite nature of life robs it of all meaning, then your definition of meaning is based on the assumption that something, anything, can be infinite. Why do you cling to this misconception, even as it tortures you so? Every day you live like this you are acting out a lie. By treating everything in life like a momentary distraction you are behaving as if you have infinite time, knowing that you really don't, not behaving as you were intended to, as if you are a thinking, creating, curious, loving being with a finite number of days on this earth and a sincere determination to live those days to the fullest. Yes, someday, the sun will explode. Someday you and I will die. But for now, for today, I'm here with you. And I couldn't be happier. And a million years from now, a billion years, even long after the universe is still and quiet forever if that is to be the ultimate fate of the material world, that will still be the truth. We were both happy. I love you, friend.

The human is a sad animal

>>15153978
i too watch [as]

>Human life must be some kind of mistake. The truth of this will be sufficiently obvious if we only remember that man is a compound of needs and necessities hard to satisfy; and that even when they are satisfied, all he obtains is a state of painlessness, where nothing remains to him but abandonment to boredom. This is direct proof that existence has no real value in itself; for what is boredom but the feeling of the emptiness of life? If life--the craving for which is the very essence of our being--were possessed of any positive intrinsic value, there would be no such thing as boredom at all: mere existence would satisfy us in itself, and we should want for nothing. But as it is, we take no delight in existence except when we are struggling for something; and then distance and difficulties to be overcome make our goal look as though it would satisfy us--an illusion which vanishes when we reach it; or else when we are occupied with some purely intellectual interest--when in reality we have stepped forth from life to look upon it from the outside, much after the manner of spectators at a play. And even sensual pleasure itself means nothing but a struggle and aspiration, ceasing the moment its aim is attained. Whenever we are not occupied in one of these ways, but cast upon existence itself, its vain and worthless nature is brought home to us; and this is what we mean by boredom. The hankering after what is strange and uncommon--an innate and ineradicable tendency of human nature--shows how glad we are at any interruption of that natural course of affairs which is so very tedious.
—Arthur Schopenhauer, On the Sufferings of the World

>>15154132
tpbp

>>15153978
This entire cartoon was embarrassingly unfunny. It’s amazing how Psychicpebbles (Zack) humour has not evolved past “lol so randumb” absurdist humour of early YouTube. There is no substance to any of the jokes, Zach could have just made knock knock jokes the whole 10 minutes and it would have been funnier then this. Anyone who actually laughed at it is either underage or has the mentality of someone underage.

>>15154021
>>15153978
start with advaita vedanta, realize the essence of self is same as absolute infinite

>>15153978
Man longs for God, created things are just distractions compared to the eternal.


"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." -- Romans 1 KJV

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith."

>>15153978
face the absurd and burn the flame of existence

>>15154640
if this was true there would be no need to start it, it would be the default view of all people. You can't "into" it.
But it's not true, because it's false.

the fuck man, why are you here you're so old where's your wife go home to your kids\
I recognize threelame's voice as the boss, but did he do the animation for this guy too?

>>15154726
It is covered by Maya illusion due to aspect of conditional reality, that is why it must be uncovered and realized ,its not speculation of the mind its practical philosophy thats leads to liberation . Not only read but practiced until truth is known not believed.
Remove the clouds that cover and obscure the eternal sun

>>15153978
Nigga, there's no point to life, there is not supposed to be a point. You just have to reproduce, love thy neighbour, help your community, and enjoy the beauty of life. Stop being a bitch, and live.

>>15154788
>butchers Hinduism and his thought is laughed out by other Hindus
>can't count past one
>but uuuh so deep this is the true end goal of philosophy Guenon said so (before he moved on to Islam)!

>>15154364
>even when they are satisfied, all he obtains is a state of painlessness, where nothing remains to him but abandonment to boredom. This is direct proof that existence has no real value in itself; for what is boredom but the feeling of the emptiness of life?
>Whenever we are not occupied in one of these ways, but cast upon existence itself, its vain and worthless nature is brought home to us; and this is what we mean by boredom
Why would anyone think that sitting around doing nothing is to be "cast upon existence itself?" That seems more like incomplete existence to me, not pure existence. The natural state of life is to strive, not to sit still, so having all your needs met does not result in a state of "painlessness" because pain itself is one of those needs. If you aren't striving toward something, your needs aren't actually being met and you aren't tuned into pure existence in the way that's being used to justify this whole idea. When all of their needs are met and they are experiencing the optimal amount of struggle in their lives, people are happy. I just don't see what sort of pessimistic conclusion could possibly be drawn here.

>>15154799
https://www2.uned.es/dpto-hdi/History%20of%20Non-dual%20Meditation%20Methods.pdf

Truth is only ever for few rare souls ready for it,transcends culture, while religions are for masses(farm animals) to cope with
>uplifts the pajeets from brainlets to universal truth and true understanding of upanishads,im thinking based
>counting pass 1 is when its not two is retarded

>>15154788
Christianity can have a fall-of-man because man is not perfect and immutable, but in your school of thought the "fall" happens to God himself, the immutable One, and then he has to do some mental gymnastics to "clear the clouds of maya" from obstructing his own self-knowledge. It's nonsense for there to be clouds of maya covering his vision, it's nonsense to believe any temporal-spatial practice a man does can undo the "fall of God", and it's non-sense to believe such efforts will last forever and aren't totally futile, if maya came once to God, it can come again.

>>15154909
>he stopped at the monism meme
like read the Quran nigga lmao oh no

>>15155000
>he stopped at the monism meme
like read the Quran nigga lmao oh no
anything except nonduality is entertainment
>>15154994
He used maya to cover himself as part of play of conditional reality , self realization is knowledge that conditional and absolute are not separate even if they them seem so, only in true insight can one realize this . Even if eastern schools disagree they still focus on practical aspect of some liberation while abrahamics do not .

No, the best parts of life are when you realize your actual place in the world. Just look at the stars to see how little you really are. Accept your finitude. Then smile as the banalities of everyday life fade into nothingness. All human achievements, civilizations, all those petty things you've been told all your life to pursue.

>>15155061
>He used maya to cover himself as part of play of conditional reality , self realization is knowledge that conditional and absolute are not separate even if they them seem so, only in true insight can one realize this . Even if eastern schools disagree they still focus on practical aspect of some liberation while abrahamics do not .
Are you saying that God can become ignorant and needs to do X, Y, Z to remove his own ignorance? And once that work is done the yoga realizes he is God? Is this what they taught you and you believe it? Why do you believe this?

>>15155152
“Once we become conscious, even dimly, of the Atman, the Reality within us, the world takes on a very different aspect. It is no longer a court of justice but a kind of gymnasium. Good and evil, pain and pleasure, still exist, but they seem more like the ropes and vaulting-horses and parallel bars which can be used to make our bodies strong. Maya is no longer an endlessly revolving wheel of pain and pleasure but a ladder which can be climbed to consciousness of the Reality.”
― Adi Shankaracarya,
Yoga does not specifically lead to such realization.
I had direct experiences/spiritual insights prior to engaging with material ,i choose it because it resonates with inner knowledge.
Such experience completely changes you from head-heart consciousness its complete shift in awareness with a lot more bliss,freedom than previous state.
If i didnt have the experience i probably wouldnt believe as well but once you do it just naturally flows .
This path transforms you and benefits you on constantly on the journey even if you do not believe you will still greatly benefit and i am a practical person, while religions just promise some afterlife neetbux.

>>15155380
I understand all that but I think your theology is very wrong, the mental practice is futile and centered around yourself, trying to please yourself, seeking after fleeting spiritual highs, and what they told you is eternal-liberation is actually fleeting by their very own definition: since maya keeps haunting your God/Atman/Self and causing him to fall into ignorance, suffering, wickedness. I hope you'll grow out of it eventually and orient yourself correctly to the real God, who can only be known through Jesus Christ. Try reading the Bible and letting it speak for itself, instead of viewing things from a hindu perspective.

>>15153978
>the sun is gonna explode
lol, what is this star wars or something? strap in for eternity

>>15155612
Call it christ or consciousness,brahman etc doesnt matter , dualistic religions only separate you further from it and only way to reach god as many mystics universally point out is through self ,no other way. You're right that spiritual pleasure subsides but it leaves something that transforms you , a death and rebirth happens and you're ever closer to that great reality with more and more bliss and benevolence that follows. To universe becomes infinitely smaller.
>
My fiftieth year had come and gone,
I sat, a solitary man,
In a crowded London shop,
An open book and empty cup
On the marble table-top.
As on the shop and street I gazed
My body of a sudden blazed;
And twenty minutes more or less
It seemed, so great my happiness,
That I was blessèd and could bless.