/lit/ - Literature

Twin Peaks is pretty straightforwardly a horror narrative.

So: read horror.

>>15144945
Just finished the first season of twin peaks should I watch the next season.I liked it but I want to just read at the moment and I can't do both reading and watching. Probs autism but I don't care. So is season two worth it over reading?

The nightingale
It said to me
There is a love
Meant for me
The nightingale
It flew to me
And told me
That it found my love

He said to me
I'll meet you
Our hearts will fly
With the nightingale

The nightingale
He told me
One day
You will be with me
The nightingale
Said he knew
That your love
Would find my love one day

My heart flies
With the nightingale
All through the night
All across the world

I long to see you
To touch you
To love you
Forever more

>>15145118
Season 2 has a real dip in the middle but the start and finish are great and it's a bit of a slog but it's worth it to get to watch Fire Walk With Me and The Return

>>15145118
Season 2 is better.

>>15145118
The first seven episodes are the best of the show, then it gets really bad, then the last two are really good.
It's worth it just to watch the third season anyways, if you're already watching the how I'd say you should continue

>>15145323
>The first seven episodes
Or maybe it was the forst eleven, I don't remember

>>15145118
Yes with Bob and Windom Earle and kino. Haven't seen The Return yet though

>>15144945
Hap & Leonard as well as Goliath have this David Lynch vibe.
As for books, having absurd social humor, kitsch alongside spooky occult shit, that's a hard one, need to think on it.

>>15144945
You should read Kenneth Grant's Typhonian Trilogies to understand the occult shit in Twin Peaks.
Gershom Scholem's On The Kabbalah And It's Symbolism explained the girl with no eyes and it blew me away

What's the deal with this show? Even before the internet I understood television is for retards; is there something unusual about this manifestation?

>>15145467
my dear anon have you not realize the twist that you were the retard all along?

That’s so weird, I was showing my GF this show last night and had the urge to make this exact thread.

I’ve also been looking for a book (fiction or non-fiction) that encapsulates the tone of horror with a deception of innocent aesthetics.

When Leland dies, and Coop recites the Tibetan Book of The Dead, I felt the need to read a story with that tone.

>>15145467
cringe

>Not reading the actual twin peaks of /lit/erature

>>15145541
It's not weird. It always gets memed here and in other boards so now that we are on quarantine had just the time to watch an entire show. I finished S3 like a week ago.

>>15145467
Imagine if the TV people who control the retards decided to spill the beans, because the retards don't care anyway.

>>15144945

the medium is the message

https://youtu.be/4QBl-BuEIV8

so haunting

>>15145467
Basically it was a parody of teenage soap operas (think CW), with a mix of "Too-many-cooks". David Lynch is a fucking hack

For those who watched The Return, what did you think of it?

Personally, despite it being a completely bloated mess of ideas– I fucking loved it. Felt like a film in a serialised novel form rather than an episodic television show (likely because it was filmed that way). The fact that something like Episode 8 was even a thing is almost inconceivable, we are probably never going to get anything like it on television again.

Also, even though so many people were frustrated by it, the Dougie stuff was arguably the closest in tone to the original series, Lynch was giving us exactly what we wanted with that plotline and the nostalgiafags didn't even realise it

>>15145467
It has a nice aesthetic, that's all.

>>15144945
i am a self-professed, intellectual lightweight, are there any fan boards to handhold/giude me through some of the more nuanced yet vital episodic machinations?

>>15147813
>"Believe it or not, guides are total fucking bullshit."
>"Could you elaborate on that?"
>"No."

>>15145261
>bit of a dip
That's an understatement if ever I read one.

>>15147813
There's a 5 hour analysis video essay on YouTube that gets many of the symbols obviously right. It's a good watch if you have already seen all of Twin Peaks including season 3.

>>15145467
It's a post-modern tv show about the concept of television that goes ridiculously deep with its symbolism.

>>15147888
thx, would appreciate the link if you've got it..

There are some references in Infinite Jest. Avril being incestuous and having white hair, for example

>>15145118
If you do watch season two, know that after James makes a certain big decision halfway through that you can completely tune out of everything he does because none of it matters at all

I am still too scared to watch Fire Walk With Me

>>15148548
Do it. It's pure kino and was my favorite part of all of Twin Peaks

They only way to really experience twin peaks is to watch the first 2 seasons and the film over and over again for years untill you are really comfortable with the characters, then go watch the return. So much of what goes on in that season is about subverting decades of expectations, breaking the fourth wall, and misdirection.

>>15145118
Watch episodes 1-9 to complete the Laura arch. Then watch 19-21 to get more background of the Black Lodge lore and, of course, the ending episode.

The episode in-between are a crap shoot.

>>15148632
This. Making the show about twin peaks was a mistake.

>>15147888
>lynch
>symbols
kill yourself

>>15148085
No need to watch it. The first half hour of the vid is good, and then he completely tumble down the road of tunnel vision. Fucking hell, he spends hours rambling that it’s one big commentary on The TV medium. I mean, yeah, that’s part of the metanarrative.

>>15148548
the last 10 minutes are high art

>>15145467
imagine lost but if lost actually had a point rather than just keep piling on macguffins

>>15146181
the secret history was g r e a t

>>15147108
i loved it, especially how lynch made me root for dougie despite myself. and dr.jacoby's show. and the sequence with bobby at the traffic accident

>>15147813
surprisingly, /tv/. if you can get a thread up to critical mass absolute pearls fall out sometimes

>>15147108
The one thing I didn't like was Lynch's use of the Gordon Cole character to massage his already over-inflated ego, even if it was done in a self-effacing way. I like his movies a lot, but he's too full of himself.

>>15144945
Overrated hipster trash? Probably something by Pinecone.

>>15149471
Retard.

>>15148085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYnF5hOhuM
Ignore what the other guy said. I don't necessarily agree with the interpretations but only few of the clues addressed in the video are too far fetched. It's kind of a chore to watch because it's presented in a weird way but the information itself is worth it.

>>15150174
Yeah, I could see that. Some of the FBI sections did drag on quite a bit, though I wasn't hugely bothered because any extra minute with Ferrer was a minute well spent. RIP

>>15150134
>the sequence with bobby at the traffic accident
You mean where the kid shoots the gun through the car window? Hell yeah. That scene was a perfect distillation of both lynch's style and the thematic concerns of The Return in general. And all of that in what is essentially an entirely disconnected plot point that is never referred to again.

>>15144945
People keep saying this show is /lit/, but I'm wary as fuck of all television. Literally the only "muh golden age of tv" thing I liked was the first season of True Detective. Is this actually kino, or is it just more Breaking Bad/Sopranos/Mad Men "whoa, he's such a bad guy... but I kinda root for him doe" garbage?

>>15150394
>Breaking Bad/Sopranos/Mad Men
two of those are good

>>15150394
>Literally the only "muh golden age of tv" thing I liked was the first season of True Detective
True Detective is literally a third-rate twin peaks. It gets all of its good ideas from there, the only thing it doesn't tap into is the soap opera elements. The trouble is all of the darkness and mystery is very surface level in True Detective, whereas in Twin Peaks, the darkness is buried under the facade of a quaint, wholesome and unassuming town, which makes the dark that much more menacing in contrast. Unlike True Detective, it also has soul.

>>15145467
The way you phrased it was pretty fucking pseud, but you're right. The whole "tv can be /lit/!" is a massive fucking cope from roasties and burnouts who want to justify their eighteen hour Netflix binges.

>>15150446
Sweet, I'll have to check it out. I was a little disappointed that TD ended its supernatural/conspiratorial angles with "yeah, the elite are evil, but what can you do?", but I did enjoy the main duo greatly.

>>15150255
thx, much appreciated

>>15150824
>I did enjoy the main duo greatly
You're in luck, the Cooper-Truman bromance is one for the ages. Cooper is the complete opposite of Rust but in the best kind of way. Just be aware that after a certain point in the second season (you'll know when), things will get very, very shit, but keep pushing through because the finale, film and 3rd season are all fantastic.

bump

>>15148586
this

midnight in the garden is close I think

266b by Robert Bolaño has a very similar feel to it. The humour is similar, the mundanity, the horror.

>>15144945
Probably the poetry of Larry Levis, particularly “The Darkening Trapeze” collection.

>>15145347
The Return is amazing, it's like Eraserhead extended over 18 hours

>>15154555
The Return is actually good though. It's more like David Lynch actually created Ronnie Rocket.

>>15145467
Dropping in from /tv/ because I got a free Audible gift and was looking for something I haven't read yet to listen to. Twin Peaks is if you have two different authors telling the same story on two different planets. One is building some huge backstory about aliens and portals to other worlds and the other said let me write a soap opera about that but with random shit going on that somehow manages to make sense.