/lit/ - Literature

>>15132894
lit is a fascist board fag

>>15132912
No it isn't bootlicker scum

Fascism is not an ideology, it is the absence of ideology.

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Anything that makes fun of socialism by extension also makes fun of fascism

>>15132985
That's not true, it's larping through and through. An absence of ideology would look more like local communitarianism

Céline

The tin drum
Is funny that the author won a nobel and was later criticized for being part of the nazi youth

>>15133005
It is true for the fascist (he is powerful enough, to be aware of the non-ideological state), but not for the masses, controlled by the fascist (they're too powerless, to be aware of the non-ideological state). Fascism is the natural state of the industrial society. Ideologies, like e.g. national-socialism, capitalism or even soviet communism, are nothing but instruments of the fascist, designed to control the masses. Mussolini was aware of this, he was a fascist.

>>15132912
no it's you scum

>>15133065
It's goofy to create a power vacuum that psychopaths will flock to, that's what I'm getting at. We all know that psychopaths exist, all centralized authoritarian modes of governance will attract mentally ill psychopaths and create the environment for them to flourish in. In an optimal society, psychopaths would be humiliated by the community as defective people, not put in positions of absolute authority

>It is true for the fascist (he is powerful enough, to be aware of the non-ideological state), but not for the masses, controlled by the fascist (they're too powerless, to be aware of the non-ideological state). Fascism is the natural state of the industrial society. Ideologies, like e.g. national-socialism, capitalism or even soviet communism, are nothing but instruments of the fascist, designed to control the masses. Mussolini was aware of this, he was a fascist.

Foucault’s Pendulum

>>15133109
First of all, psychopathy is not pathological, or "mentally ill". Secondly, the reason, why "psychopaths" are controlling societies, is that they're the best at and for controlling societies. If it weren't so, then societies, lead by non-psychopathic people, would exist and be better than "normal" societies (meaning, societies, lead by psychopathic people, would not exist and this conversation would be redundant). Because of that, "normal" societies - societies, controlled by "psychopaths" - are optimal societies, until the opposite is proven (; an opposite, which hasn't been proven since the existence of man). To the powerful, fascism is the concession to reality; to the powerless, fascism is a failed ideology of 20th century, equated with Germany's national-socialism. Objectively, fascism is the political synopsis of the enlightenment.

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>>15133075
>scum
you have to go back redditor

>>15132894
go lick some jewish boots, slavemind
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>>15132985
based
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onions

>>15133271
>it's a babby learns about applying darwinism to society and commits the naturalistic fallacy episode

>>15132985
>Freedom is slavery

>>15133639
Fascism is Jewish 4d chess, all centralization gives the Jew the means of attaining power, the more globalized centralization becomes the more damage that can be inflicted.

>>15133851
Based and redpilled

>>15133639
>a fascist calling someone a boot licker
You want to be a pawn for the state lmao

>>15133748
I'm not arguing in terms of morality. The perceived relation to Darwin's ideas was not intentional.

>>15133809
Freedom doesn't exist and slavery is the (morally) negatively connoted description of the natural "master - slave" relationship. Both words are moralistic terms, i.e. they're significance is purely metaphysical (psychological).

>>15132894
Fascism as an ideology doesn't exist

>>15132894
Sirens Of Titan perhaps

>>15132985
lol imagine being this retarded

>>15132985
And thats a good thing!

it's irrefutable unless you are an anarchist

>>15133925
The only good white nationalist is a dead one.

>>15133946
heck yea!

>>15132894
Communist are unironically the joke though. This is projecting.

>>15132985
Even in dreams we cannot escape I D E O L O G Y

>>15132894
>goofy ideology
What's goofy about it?

>>15133949
FUCK I never see serious looking extremists anymore, left or right they always have some stupid little embarrassed smirk on their face. What a joke

>>15133968
like pretending to be socialist

Accidental Death of an Anarchist

>>15133999
I thought Hitler hated socialists?

>>15133958
The strong can, the weak can't. The ideological radicals are always the weak.

>>15133949
>heels off ground squats

>>15133949
ay dem feet tho

>>15132894
Don’t forget “revolutionaries” vote blue no matter who!

We've only had 3 recs so far, so I'll say The Code of the Woosters by P. G. Wodehouse. It's a specific pisstake of Oswald Mosley.

FYI if your interested in fascist economics Adam Toozes Wages of Destruction. If you want a book on fascist Italy then Richard Bosworths'
Mussolini's Italy: Life Under the Dictatorship, 1915-1945. A new book coming out about fascism is John Goochs' Mussolini's War: Fascist Italy from Triumph to Collapse. Now let me be back to /his/.

Fascism is just Racism+Authoritarianism+Syndicalism.
It's absolutely I D E O L O G Y but it's one of the better ones imo

>>15134139
holy cringe

>>15134154
Holy Cringity

>>15132912
No
/lit/ is a traditionalist monarchist board

>>15134176
/lit/ is gay lol

The protagonist of Berlin Alexanderplatz joins the brownshirts because he's bored and they have good drinking songs.

>>15132894
any history book
same for comunism

>>15134176
/lit/ is a Trans rights board.

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Nihilist homos

>>15133903
communism is a foot licker?

>>15132894
/lit/ is a UG Krishnamurti board
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NvuhC8IvdSs

>>15134213
I wouldn't be surprised

>>15133050
Good answer

>>15132985
This is top-tier bait, well done

>>15134629
He has a point. In fascism, the ideology is to just follow whatever the dictator believes.

>>15132894
Is this a real question? Literally just pick up any book on WW2 history or on Nazi Germany that is printed by a mainstream publisher.

>>15132894
Everythings I've read that tries to mock fascism only succeed at making it look fucking rad, like Starship Troopers or Warhammer 40K. There's just something innately sexy about that hyper militarism and raw expression of masculine power.

>>15132894
Gravity's Rainbow

>>15134640
Fascism believes we're all better as a bunch of faggots

>>15133999
Nah he was socialist to the core, just not a degenerate international stoodge

>>15132894
>the state is incompetent, evil, and run by shadowjewlizards
>let's give the state 100% power in totalitarian authoritarianism
???
!!
??????

>>15135480
>the state is incompetent, evil, and run by shadowjewlizards
>let's kick out the shadowjewlizards and put our people in power

>>15134913
Would-be fascists tend to be scoially illiberal and would condemn public displays of faggotry, spousal status for fags, normalization, etc. If you're actually opposed to faggotry and the general feminization of our societies, then fascism should be appealing to you.

>>15135480
It's pretty simple, the state doesn't have to be run by shadowjewlizards — they can be expunged. The state is necessary. Some corruption is unavoidable, but an ideology which subordinates capitalism to higher values (like fascism) is more likely to safeguard the interests of the nation's people.

>>15135684
>let's put GOOD people in positions of absolute power and then only GOOD people will rule forever
Sure

>>15135707
Kick out the kikes and put aryans in power

>>15135684
The only way to put your people in power is to not rely on an abstract centralized authorities. Whatever the centralized authority is will itself be self serving against you and your peoples interests. The only thing that's real is the microcosm, the state doesn't care about you, your family and friends, as the state itself is it's own microcosm of psychopaths. The shadowjewlizard problem is a creation of the state and centralization over localism. Every social problem can be solved locally

>>15135721
What a feasible and brilliant philosophy, I'm sure a ragtag group of 4chan retards will overthrow the global order

>>15135707
Nothing lasts forever, doesn't mean you don't make an effort.

Do share your alternative so we can laugh at your stupidity.

>>15135684
>**cryptoshadowjewlizards masquerading as our people
ftfy. they've been fucking you for over 105 years and counting, but you think you can outsmart them? lmao

>>15135730
Your time is coming soon Moshe
This time you're all going in the oven

>>15135723
It's unavoidable with large populations and modern militaries. You can aim for minarchism, but first you're going to have to do something about the mass immigration of foreign populations that don't share such libertarian tendencies. There's also a problem wherein if you don't restrain capitalism, then successful economic players will de facto consolidate and centralize power. There's no way around it... Your best bet is an authoritarian state that explicitly prioritizes certain values (ethnos, family, autarky) so that there can be no confusion about its purpose (making betrayal of that purpose obvious).

>>15135721
The aryans who ended up in power would be the kikiest ones, though, and within a generation they'd be 100% full kike mode once again.
At some point you have to ask why the system so perfectly selects for kikery, why it elevates specifically the worst behavior into dizzying heights of power. It is because that kikery is the end-goal of capitalism, and the eternal Jew is our apex predator. Even if they go extinct, that same niche will be waiting to be filled by some as-yet-undeveloped genus of greedy, backstabbing cunts, because that's what our selection pressures reward.

>>15132894
Pynchon

>>15133949
i don't like living in this era

>>15133949
Look at these Oompa Loompas.
That one on the right literally has downs.

>>15133949
The one in the far right looks like a down syndrome

>>15134201
Dilate

hello scandinavian lads from /int/

>hurr durr Fascism bad
>durr hurr daz rite

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>>15136108
Unironically gas yourselves, or better yet stop being a bunch of complete fucking pussies and start some shit so the rest of us normal, not-fashtatos can identify and shoot you while you're trying to kill a bunch of high schoolers or something. Nothing makes me happier than when one of you trashy, fashy fuckwits gets a close-quarters meeting with the consequences of your actions and ends up losing a shootout with the cops.

If you're gonna keep being pussies though, go be pussies in your safe space in /pol/ and stop smearing the walls everywhere else with your shit.