/lit/ - Literature

It's going into Peter Thiel-funded STEM-worship and machine-worship, with an underlying crypto-materialist ideology provided by biosemiotics, neo-cybernetics, and neo-Spinozism. 1990s/2000s reddit scientism will be replaced by /sci/ style STEM chauvinism, filled with phony confidence about confronting "harsh reality" with a stern materialistic outlook, and the few people in this ahrimanic milieu who desire philosophical justifications will be channeled toward "post-subjective" pseudo-philosophy like biosemiotics, formalized versions of French anti-transcendentalism, etc. Any dissent from the overall weltbild will be contained because when people want to dissent, the farthest they will get is something like going back to Heidegger for HIS anti-transcendental critique as superior to Deleuze's or Foucault's.

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>>15113131
This already happened to a large extent and produced nothing of note.
TED talks don't make good philosophy, except for Sam Hyde.

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What’s cybernetic philosophy look like? What’s biosemiotics ? Like what do all of these terms mean? I know it’s not just junk and has real meaning but can I get a basic explanation on what these things actually look like?

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>>15114020
Can you guys explain this stuff in simple words for a big dummy

Agamben is still the most important living thinker whether you like it or not

>>15113131
We unironically do need to confront harsh realities though. The whole foundation of the postwar order is the avoidance of confronting harsh realities - understandable in light of the Holocaust, decolonization, segregation, etc. but we can't lie forever.

>>15114423
based
I think the neoliberal globohomo world order is finally starting to fall apart. Even some normalfaggots are beginning to wake up and see through the lies.

>>15114423
>understandable in light of the Holocaust, decolonization, segregation, etc

the holocaust is fake and segregation was good

>>15114433
I think they always knew on some level, it just wasn't worth it to question it and the reality denial was less obvious even a decade or two ago.

>>15115182
I know some normalfags who either genuinely believe the lies 100% or they are VERY aggressively lying to themselves and defending the lies.

>>15115204
Meh, a lot of people were fervent believers in Soviet Socialism, the Great Cultural Revolution, National Socialism, etc. Lots of people can be convinced to believe just about anything.

>>15114461
Fascists got slaughtered by commies and lib democracies and every woman in Berlin was raped by the occupying red army because fascists are infantile weaklings.

>>15113091
Experimental Realities

>>15115237
Not a fan of Communism or Fascism, but whatever power was on the opposing side to both the US and Russia would've gotten rekt in WW2 no matter what. The USSR was shittier than it would've been without Communism.

>>15113131
>1990s/2000s reddit scientism will be replaced by /sci/ style STEM chauvinism
if only. normies are getting more retarded and anti-science by the day

>>15115237
...look at the numbers there of course the fascists lost. The k/d ratio on the Eastern Front tells the opposite story of what youre saying

>>15114342
star trek ain't happenting anytime soon and we're larping while waiting for the future we were promised

>>15115237
it’s really weird how obsessed you guys are with rape

neospeculative postspeculation

>>15114423
>the Holocaust
>the most retarded hoax in history
>harsh reality
My favorite killing method was the masturbation machine.
But the pool full of acid and the huge 200 people electric chair and the roller coaster of death were also quite cool.
And the cage with the bear and the eagle.
Those germans and their crazy eccentricities.

>>15115237
>we won because even though we're retarded we had a 1:15 numerical superiority and we behaved like depraved animals and that means we're better

>>15115237
Moral of the story:
>Quantity>Quality

>>15113846
what's the deal with this book and /lit/? is it just a meme?

>>15115346
funny how every 'Caust survivor was personally visited by Dr. Mengele.

>>15113091
I hope they keep going the direction D&G and Sloterdjik and maybe others I'm not aware of, where the immanent and subconscious act as medium for all kinds of wacky theories and adventurous concepts.
Yes I like the idea of having a [stand].

For me it's Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug.

>>15114433
Yeah, but wait until you see the shit show that comes next.

Think about the lowest, basest, most sub-real pseudo-intellectual form of compute science dressed as philosophy today. Then just think of that on steroids and more concerned about social issues. We’re going to see the esoteric core of California-Americanism take over ideology.

>>15115269
More retarded and more anti-science? Seems like a contradiction mate. Science is systemic retardation.

>>15115494
Is Sloterdijk a postmodernist?

>>15113131
Reddit superseded by nu-Reddit

>>15115662
No he can't be called a postmodernist.

>>15115653
you're not a special snowflake french intellectual rebel for being scientifically and mathematically illiterate. you're just stupid and ignorant.

>>15115874
What would you call him?

>>15115938
I'm not really educated enough to draw defining conclusions on current academic schools to be honest.
His wiki page says philosophical anthropology which kinda fits when I look on what I've read.
Interpersonal relations is a very important topic for him.
Wiki also states posthumanist which I'm not so sure about. He doesn't really want to overcome humanity for what I've seen.

>>15113091
>Also would you consider pic related a postmodernist?
i consider myself a shaftesburian, a voltairian, a kantian and a radical anti-postmodernist.
and an anti-semite, and a racialist, for that matters.

Metafiction as guide to reality, a resurgence in Bernays-style propaganda, but metaphysicalized, with a flavor of speculative-fiction-made-real (think Borges). Fantasies of an omnipotent elite reshaping reality according to its whims, and the embracing of fake news, outright and invented historical events. Past fictions become a guide to future actualities – holograms of fucking Johnny Bravo wandering the streets alongside those of Odysseus making his voyage over and over again in the Aegean (tickets will be sold to this). Realism recast as vaguely reactionary at first, then outright fascist. Post-meaning, the medium is the only message. The trajectory of sense becomes tied to what you want to hear, not what I want to say: language screaming through us from the future in self-fulfiling prophecy, using the human body and our digital creations as vehicles. The world falls back to ur-tribalism, mysticism and sacrificing goats: the luxury flat of the future middle class becomes a bunker.

The fall of Darwinism and the rise of Intelligent Design theory is the next big thing

>>15113091
>would you consider pic related a postmodernist?
Given that one of his major projects (spheres) is itself a grand narrative, no.

>>15116855
correcting infographic: Foams has been translated and is now available in English.

>>15115879
found the scientism materialist lel

>>15115653
you and a large fraction of /lit/ are a prime example of my point

>>15114423
Worm.

>>15117105
Why are you so upset? We can't keep defending '60s ideas about egalitarianism, "anti-authoritarianism", etc. when they're obviously not correct.

>>15113091
Read Abolishing Freedom by Ruda and The Ego And The Flesh by Rogozinski, them shits are fire af

>>15117148
Okay, your post gives the opposite impression of what you meant apparently.

>>15117168
What I was trying to say was, the post-war moral order in the Western world holds a lot of assumptions about equality, but a lot of those aren't holding up too well. We can't just suppress it by suggesting that anyone who doesn't believe these dogmas is guilty of a near occasion of Auschwitz.

>>15115444
It's an excellent manifesto. No idea why people haven't caught on to this.

>>15113091
Probably some uncirculated papers in black projects compartmentalized away from ratcheted, speed governed societal development as we know it. Technological leaps spur on future thinking, and the notion that we've nothing better than glorified German WWII rockets for space faring is a cosmic farce. [The arts suffer for it as well.]

>>15113091
It will keep going somewhere the powers that be want it to go to distract from the class-based rumblings that these constant economic failings can't help but generate.

>>15116868
It has been a few years now, bro

I believe a large component of it will involve an analysis of AI and its implications. Philosophy of AI will be an important area because philosophy always goes to work in the unformulated, fuzzy frontiers of knowledge where there are no established interpretations or concepts.

>>15113131
>confronting "harsh reality" with a stern materialistic outlook
So we're stuck denying aspects of the universe that are too comfortable?

>>15113091
Stirner was the end of all Philosophy. All these collectivists trying anything else are neglecting their self.

>>15117592
Endtimer... Foolish.
If Stirner is so great, why do you think that his is the final philosophy?
If, but not only if, he is taken seriously, I can continue philosophy just fine.

>>15117559
Yeah, it's an old graph.