/lit/ - Literature

>>15059663
>sapiens
>the selfish gene
I hate the word midwit, but you're a midwit

>>15059663
Anyone know the typefaces of revolt against the modern world spine?

>>15059663
aspie

Communism is never going to work

>>15059824
Know thyn enemy

>>15059663
Cringe midwit and fake right-wing pseud.

>>15059663
Your copy of Capital looks untouched...

>>15060146
All of his books except the tiny ones he bought used or inherited look untouched lmao

>>15060418
faggy file name

>>15060481
you fell for it

>>15059663
>>15060418
what is with the nazi/fascist shit?

>>15060481
Lefty?

>>15060593
recent world events are turning people nationalist.
nazis dont exist anymore. they were defeated 80 years ago.

>>15060572
>>15060611
Nazbol, Monarchist

>>15060715
lol k

r8

>>15060945
Apologies, sir, but you seem to have posted my photograph without prior permission. Please remove it at once!

>>15060880
>mike cernovich

>>15060618
>recent world events
such as?

>>15059663
Looked at the bottom shelf thought this was OK, then I looked at the top and now I know you're a retard with shit taste

Here's a lot of my fiction. Most of it is from Value Villages over the last few years

>>15061513
I'm thinking this is pretty based

>>15061641
A few others I need to find a place for. That copy of All the Pretty Horses is signed by McCarthy, made out to Conrad Black, which is kind of neat.

>>15061685
this is my “have yet to read” shelf plus some astronomy-related reference works.

Not pictured: The Idiot, Growth of the Soil, Dead Souls, The Tartar Steppe, Eugene Onegin, and Steppenwolf

>>15061482
You need someone to list them off for you? Jfc lmao.

>>15060880
The boomers like vox and mike are cringe but other then that it's pretty based. 7/10

>>15059663
Sowell and Marx on the same shelf

kek

>>15061723
>boomers
Let me tell you about their g-g-generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE9CXWV1alg

>>15061678
I really like that edition of 2666

>>15060029
Bloom's translation of The Republic rules. Not enough straussians on this board.

>>15060069
anon you're holding your phone upside down

>>15062003
Thank you I appreciate that anon

>>15062014
It sucks I rotated it in my phone's image editor but it still defaults to the right like that for some reason

>>15061513
It irrationally bothers me that only The Sin of Abbe Mouret has Zola's full name on the spine.

>>15061685
Very nice collection. I saved and will be pirating some of your books later, thank you

>>15062050
It bothers me as well. I'm not sure why oxford would do that unless it was a mistake that made it to the printers

>>15061513
Literally nothing on that shelf looks read? What a fucking waste of money holy shit, you could've bought a high end PC to waste time playing vidya instead of this.

>>15060945
>>15062095
why?

>>15062095
How does he get out?

>>15062092
If I wanted to buy books just to make myself look good and not to read, my bookshelf wouldn't have shitty penguins and OWC paperbacks. Not everyone destroys their books while reading them

I should build a bookshelf while in quarantine.
>>15059663
Sapiens was really bad.
>>15061513
Pretty much based.
>>15061727
Sowell has Marx on his shelf.

>>15062190
I like your collection

>paperback translations
literally why

>>15062221
Thanks fren

>>15062239
This is also really cool, a lot of titles I have seen before. Anytime fren :D

>>15062267
Havent*

>>15059663
>>15060418
>>15062190
/lit/ loves lazy pop history. that's how i know you people are all pretentious frauds.
t. historian

>>15062317
What is pop history and what makes it lazy?

>>15062414
if you can pick it up at barnes & noble, and it was recommended on fox news by Sean Hannity, odds are its pop history.
in general:
1) history that plays fast and loose with citations; basically, anything that's not well researched. my specialty is ancient history, and its easy to spot a lazy historian: they'll describe something insane and unlikely Nero allegedly did, and they'll just cite Suetonius. either they don't have sources at all, or they're completely uncritical of their sources.
2) history written outside academia.
3) history that focuses more on retelling events, rather than analyzing events. if the book is just a narrative, its pop history.
4) the tendency to focus too much on individual rulers, at the expense of understanding underlying trends (pop history is still stuck in Great Men thinking).
5) history that isn't trying to find or understand anything NEW.
most pop history is just trash narratives, completely uncritical. its entertainment disguised as knowledge. and half the time, its somehow trying to stay urgent by tying whatever event to United States in INSERT YEAR OF PUBLISHING.
the truth is, real history is dense and challenging. its concerned a lot with seemingly insignificant details. its a long struggle to determine what happened, and why it happened. books that offer easy narratives usually aren't teaching you anything

>>15062440
>2) history written outside academia.
as an addendum to my post. im sure there's good history written outside academia. that note is just a general guideline. its not a rigid law

>>15062159
Get out of what?

>>15062440
I appreciate the detailed response I partially expected spite, first sentence also made me laugh (internally). Whatre some historical books you enjoy? I'm interested in any ancient history texts you might reccomend

>>15062440
Are there any historians you like to read?

>>15062487
>>15062488
The last great history book I read from Nero by Edward Champlin. My guilty pleasure is anything about the bad Caesars. I read Miriam Griffin's biography of Nero, and then Champlin's. Miriam Griffin offers a great account of Nero's political failure, and Champlin offers a great account of Nero's artistic/cultural success.
the thing is, they're both fucking dense, and have the tendency to get bogged down in details.
if you like to read about shit Caesars like i do, Suetonius's The Twelve Caesars is unironically a good place to start. a wild, fun, readable, half-accurate primary source. the ambiguity is part of the fun. Suetonius had access to the Imperial archives, so he knew more than any modern person does. but Suetonius also inserted unsubstantiated gossip, and didn't distinguish between the gossip and the state secrets. his biographies are puzzles. historians will spend the next 1000 years still fixating on them.
if you're still intrigued after The Twelve Caesars, its worth trying the denser reads.
for Nero, i recommend Miriam Griffin first, then Edward Champlin

>>15062488
also, im currently reading Kotkin's Paradoxes of Power (about Stalin) and its quite good. damn well-written. i didnt give a fuck about Stalin, and somewhat Kotkin hasn't gotten me interested

>>15062505
i mean, Kotkin has gotten me interested. i forgot how to type. Kotkin is good

>>15062502
Sounds great. I read The Twelve Caesars recently and enjoyed it a lot, but at the same time I was wishing for something I can have a little more faith in.

>>15059789
present

>>15060029
Is Power of habit good ?

>>15062522
Yeah it's worth reading

>>15062516
go for it anon
also, remember: have fun. history reading should be challenging (or at least thought-provoking) but there should also be joy in it. if you're 50 pages into a book and miserable, fucking toss it.
and if you're looking for other history books, the academic reviews on JSTOR are your friend

>>15062522
It made me appreciate traditions more and gave me new perspective on every day activities. I reccomend it, it's a kind of book that can help make a person more well rounded

>>15059663
You're a pseud.
It doesn't look like you have even opened any of those books lmao

>>15062239
Is Murray's Human Accomplishment good?

philosophy normie

>>15062629
what kind of monster puts stickers on the spine?

>>15062638
I buy all my books used, that’s how they come

>>15059663
I don't think you've opened one of those books, let alone read them

>>15062190
>>15062239
What a mess. Nice collection though.
You into insects bruv?
>>15062638
>>15062644
Damn I hate those


Here are mine.
Some are in French, no bully. Shakespeare are because they're half French half English editions, some Dicks and Heinleins are because I like the covers more and it's not like it's high literature anyway. Lolita's in French because I had it like this and didn't want to buy it in English ; big mistake.

>>15059663
>Sankara
I bet money you only know about him because of Cultured Thug.

>>15059663
based how you only have non-fiction; fuck fiction and literature, I'm just so tired of it.

>>15062190
what the fuck happened to lila?

>>15062465
I think he means how does he go out? How is he okay looking like the epitome of an edgy teenager and going outside?

>>15062502
i know its not at all your area (era?) of interest, but any thoughts on braudel?

>>15059722
>You read these books, therefore they must be a reflection of your intelligence
midwit.

>>15060945
So that's the pic you find on Larousse's entry for INCEL, huh?

>>15059663
fuckin trots

>>15062440
Thoughts on Richard J. Evans?

Y'all have any protips on how to use large wire frame shelves as a bookshelf? I got a tiny book shelf that's full, but the overflow is now on my big storage shelves and it just looks ugly as sin.

>>15064029
Overflow shelf

>>15064050
Regular tiny shelf.

>>15064062
Law book shelf

>>15062615
Better than sapiens.
>>15062881
I took an elective class in school on them. Pretty neat desu.
>>15063003
Pupper liked it too

>>15061711
>>15061482

you need me to provide evidence linking recent worl events to my political phiolosophy? Jfc lmao.

>>15062239
>Charles Murray
>Jordan Peterson
How's the pseud life working out for you?

>>15062440
How pretentious can you be

>>15062629
You should get Hong translation for Kierkegaard. Also you should learn another language

>>15061577
Based and lemonpilled.

>>15061641
Well done sir

>>15059663
The Stalin bio has been one of my favourite reads of the last 4years.

>>15063249
I haven't found a person critical of Braudel, and academics love to cite him. I love his books as well.

>>15060880
>The New Right
Basado

>>15061727
anon i...

>>15060945
>>15062095

Why don't you just use an ereader + libgen? Buying deadtrees is basically just for retards who want to look smart on the internet, am I right?

>>15065195
libgen doesn't always have books in an epub format. My ereader is shit for PDFs, which seems like most of the books on libgen.

>>15065205
Most books I look for are available as epub but the pdfs can be converted to ebub with Calibre - with varying results. I get your point tho

>>15065281
I got an old kindle keyboard. The calibre conversions lag hard. :(

>>15060029
Rave fucking Ramsey. Paid your car loans and your credit card debt yet?

>>15062239
>Carlyle's translation of Wilhelm Meister
I can only approve since Carlyle and Goethe were friends though it's delightfully devilish he's featured as the author

>>15065728
Did you drop 1984 in a puddle?

>>15065776
Spilled an entire cup of coffee on it lol

>>15061801
Yeah it's seriously gorgeous. All three volumes for $5 at Value Village. Dunno who donates this kind of stuff.

>>15064009
He's the best member of Red Letter Media for sure

>>15065880
Everyone knows it's Mike "Third Reich" Stoklasa.

>>15062440
you can't expect the public to read history like an academic. The job of academics is to curate knowledge that is well founded and then to allow the pop historians to use this knowledge without having to do the research and citations themselves. Everyone has a different role in how the sausage is made.

>>15065894
Mike "Killin Kikes" Stoklasa

>>15059663
Random shelf.

>>15059663
> Based Evol-
Fucking Trostky? Anon I...

>>15062440
bitching about people reading popular history is one of the stupidest, most pretentious things I've seen on here in a while.

you're a historian, are you? yes, you seem like a right academic. You took 2 300 level courses while working towards your undergraduate history degree that you never finished, and in those classes you had to write one paper that introduced you to the world of online academic journals, and now you think you know some secret the rest us (who were smarter than to become "historians") have yet to discover.

If they want to read that latest biography of Napoleon they saw on the shelf at Barnes & Noble, more power to them. They're better off than if they hadn't.

You're a douche.

>>15060618
>recent world events are turning people
>people
you mean 4chan incels?

>>15062145
I told you finish Human Action before confessions

>>15066255
No. Normal people.

>>15066362
Why Human Actions before Confession?

>>15062629
Noticing some Dostoevsky but I don't see Demons in there which I would recommend if you like Dostoevsky.

The reading corner in my home library.

>>15067090
Why such a big For Dummies collection, you dummy?

>>15067717
other shelf

>>15062145
extremely based

>>15061577
What's the adult version of this great series?

>>15067920
Just reading Poe, I'd guess.

>>15067090
I'm gonna get a set up like this, looks so comfy

>>15060029
>the intelligent investor
my man

>>15060418
A literate retard

>>15068903
I see nothing wrong with it

>>15067722
I find the dumbed-down simple explanations faster and easier to process as an introduction into a new subject before taking on more advanced literature on the topics. They got me through a lot of college classes as alternate reference books. Also, I enjoy the funny single cell comic strip given at the start of each chapter.

No one even insulted my books. I feel wronged somehow.

>>15068269
Oh yes, it is very comfy. The room was originally going to be a hidden sex dungeon behind a false cabinet in my garage ... but the movers we hired after the house was built dropped all of my bookshelves in there and I loved it so much ... it became the library instead.

>>15068979
I can try if you want. Which books are yours?

>>15069001
Mine are:
>>15064079
>>15064062
>>15064050

I just keep them in my closet

>>15066237
are you upset bb? are you upset that youre reading faux history? you came to /lit/ to be pretentious and talk about heidigger and proust, and then you accidentally read Bill O'Reilly's Killing Lincoln? did i hurt your feelings baby boy?

>>15069004
I've got nothing. I notice we both have Poe, Homer, Tolstoy, Melville, and your typical collection of free religious texts given out by door to door missionaries. Are you also too much of a pussy to turn them away? Have to accept their free copy of the Bhagavad Gita? Pussy .... looks like you read part of it too, based on the placement of your bookmark (so did I)

>>15069065
Dude gave me a copy on campus a decade ago, looked through it, forgot about it. Saw a /lit/ chart a few years later saying its the absolute worst copy to read because of the organizations goals are prevalent in the editing. But you are right, I'm too much a pussy to toss it. The bible next to it was my grandfathers old copy though. Good memories of him.

>>15069084
Same. I got mine from a door to door missionary on campus back in college, about a decade ago. I think my favorite part of that book ... was the section saying that true power is having the ability to kill others and the strength not to, that to use power to harm others is a weakness, while having power and not using it for evil is a strength, true power, the power of a strong moral character.

>>15068979
>>15069004
here u go

>>15064062
>P&V
Yikes!

>>15069205
Thanks anon. I really wanted to feel like part of the group. I appreciate it.

>>15060029
>the jazz of physics
kek

>>15060418
Knight's Cross is actually a pretty good biography. But I had to chuckle when I saw Eragon and WWZ. I would put those on a different shelf than more "serious" literature.

>>15064050
fix those pictures anon

>>15069004
faggot

>>15069084
>>15069117
Get a room

>>15065205
install koreader
it works great with PDFs

>>15060029
Please, tell me you took this image from r/books. In any case, you have to go back.

>>15069390
I do have a room ... and it is full from floor to ceiling with books.

>>15069037
I avoid cable news like the plague, thank you, and wouldn’t be caught dead with a pundit’s (read: ghost writer’s) propaganda piece on my mantle, thanks.

the shelves you pointed out didn’t include mine (>>15061685 #). But your attack on others’ was both unjustified and unnecessary.

Also, I find it wonderful that your “specialty” is “ancient history”. That only spans thousands of years, thousands of cultures, kingdoms... you get my point? probably not.

My point is if you were so well read when it comes to academic literature, you would know that people who have “specialties” focus on a very narrow concentration. What I’m saying is you’re full of shit. And your response, to which I’m currently responding, is probably the most puerile post I’ve seen on here in a long time. So congrats on two milestones in this thread

>>15069427

sick /lit/ brag bro

>>15060029
Lol, Graham is a relic of 100 years ago.

>>15062629
you can use rubbing alcohol to take off those stickers mate

>>15067090
yikes

>>15069293
When I get more books, surely

I'm still pretty new to /lit/. I've decided to take it serious and this is my starter pack. What y'all think? Books are in portuguese but I think you all gonna recognize them.

>>15064050
What a bloody mess. Get your shit together, 'murica. I believe in you.

>>15062629
Hey if you dug Kierkegaard and Nietzsche, Check out Camus' essays, in english there's a collection of them called Lyrical and Critical Essays that dovetail nicely with the other two. Check his plays and other stories, along with Sartre's. Existentialism is a Humanism by Sartre is an easy essay where he talks about concepts that go well with all the above, without getting abstruse like he normally does.

>>15071286
Solid start amigo. What have you liked? Check out Borges as well, he's great if you enjoyed anything on your shelf.

>>15071346
I've read A Clockwork Orange and On The Road so far, and I really enjoyed the last one, it even made me cry one single manly tear on the last pages. One Hundred Years of Solitude is definitely on my what-to-read-next list, and I'll be reading it in spanish.

Here's me in my room. As you can see I've chosen to live an intellectual lifestyle. The written word beckons me

>>15071449
>and I'll be reading it in spanish.
Blasfêmia

>>15068978
I've been told that when learning something if you can get a book that explains itself as though you're four years old, you will remember and learn much more quickly.

>>15071286
Personally I didn't like Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.

>>15059722
What's wrong with sapiens? Haven't read it, just curious. I would love to find a good work on that subject matter.

>>15062440
Very good response even if people are salty over it. I think they're having this knee jerk feeling that you're saying that engaging history=pop history, which you obviously aren't.

One gripe: Barnes and Noble actually has a shockingly good history section at most stores. I've been surprised by how many serious academic works I've found at B&N, even if it's mixed in with some trash.

>>15069439
>>15066237
Was anything he said actually substantively wrong though? Pop history is mostly politicized garbage. Also saying he's not a real historian for not getting a postgrad degree is fairly ridiculous. Getting a PHD in History is one of the most useless ways to throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars. An undergrad degree at a good institution teaches you all the fundamental methodologies of academic historical work.

Hm, I'm not doing too well with my reorganization of my books. I can't really figure out a way to arrange my books in a manner that will fit on my shelves.

>>15072830
I don't really want to double stack on top of the books or line it up in front...

>>15072842
I guess this means I'll have to accelerate my reading speed to try and read as many as possible to make space.

>>15072848
Actually making a book shelf is right out since I don't really want to unnecessarily go out and get the lumber to make it.

>>15072861
None of these books are read, every book I read I tend to give away right away.

>>15072872
It is very rare that I keep books.
The only thing I've kept really are my mangas and my kendo book

>>15072884
In any case, how do you guys keep your books in order?

>>15072892
I tried to keep it as together by country of origin/subject and if it was non fiction or fiction, but gave up eventually.

>>15072897
actually that's a lie, I tend to keep books on japanese folk tales and such as well. I like folk stories

>>15066515
That and Kant to show the limitations of reason

>>15072201
His number 4 point is just ridiculous.
Maybe someone wants a biography. I don’t think he’s ever thought of that.

The whole thing just reeks of pretentious nonsense. And it’s obvious he sees anything he hasn’t approved of or read himself as inferior.

1/3

2/3

3/3

>>15071961
Not the guy you're replying to, but its just an anthropology 101 book. It also tries to make some dumb points, mostly semantically, like refeering to collective ideas like religion, governments, laws etc as "fantasies". It's not a bad book, but if you're even remotely educated you're gonna know 80% of it already.

>>15071512
Why is there a gorilla in your room?

>>15069324
>>15071288
I will clean it up. Thanks. I gotta get my shit together. Any suggestions on better organizing?

>>15072201
There’s A LOT of pop-history that is much more credible than he claims. He’s taking Bill O’Reilly works and implying that the entire genre should share their reputation. Which is just wrong.

1/2

>>15073676

2/2
I have no idea what I want to study and whenever I come into some money I spend it on some random book.

>>15073755
It was like $9 on Amazon

>>15073676
Based, we got the same edition. Lovecraft was based

>>15062239
>peterson
>murray
>a book about beer

EPIC!!!11

>>15065728
Based scott adams fan

>>15073631
t. pop history bugman

>>15073610
I think it looks better. Couldn’t reach the fallen poster in the back. But thanks for getting me off my ass. It looks much nicer.

>>15059663
1/10
>>15060029
1/10
>>15060069
3/10
>>15060418
1/10
>>15061513
7/10
>>15061641
8/10
>>15061678
7/10
>>15061685
1/10
>>15062020
0/10
>>15062145
8/10
>>15062190
6/10
>>15062239
1/10
>>15062629
3/10 surface level philo too
>>15062686
5/10
>>15064050
1/10
>>15064062
1/10
>>15065728
6/10
>>15065805
Not enough books
>>15066047
1/10
>>15067090
1/10
>>15067717
1/10
>>15072842
2/10
>>15072848
2/10
>>15072884
0/10
>>15072892
0/10

This board has truly gone to sh*t.

>>15074141
Post your own shelf coward

>>15074141
:( nooo double digit dubs doesn't lie, but c'mon man, that hurts.

>>15074141
>no commentary beyond numbers
of what use is your opinion

>>15074141
>shits on 9/10 people

UGH WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS BOARD

>>15074155

>>15074267
that Las Casas book, short account of the destruction of the Indies looks super interesting.
The rest don't really jump out to me except maybe Celine.

>>15074289
Yes, I agree, it really made me sick and ruined my vacation in Mexico... until I had a few drinks ofc. Also, I don’t really have shelves, since where I reside, libraries are a thing.

>>15074304
oh boy, you seem like a prime example of the /lit/ fart sniffer

>>15074267
>1st book of proust, no others
>Two copies of The Second Sex, both equally unread
>Myth of Sisyphus also unread
>Existential Monday

Wow you sure showed us up with your superior tase

>>15074328
I just got them, I was hoping to start it soon now that I have Being and Nothingness and the ethics of ambiguity under my belt, but I started Fondane instead. And yes I haven’t read all of things past, only got to the third book.

>>15059663
7/10
>>15060029
5/10
>>15060069
6/10
>>15060418
3/10
>>15060945
gay ass spam
>>15061513
8.5/10
>>15061641
9/10
>>15061678
8/10
>>15061685
7/10
>>15062020
5/10
>>15062190
6/10 (-1 because you are too poor for a bookshelf)
>>15062239
7.5/10 (+1 because of bell curve)
>>15062629
8/10
>>15062686
5/10
>>15064050
5.5/10
>>15064062
6.5/10
>>15064079
7/10
>>15065728
6/10
>>15067090
0/10 (extremly gay)
>>15067717
3/10
>>15067735
5.5/10
>>15072830
6/10
>>15072842
5.5/10
>>15072848
6.5/10
>>15072861
7/10
>>15072872
5/10
>>15072884
3.5/10
>>15072897
6/10
>>15073099
>>15073112
>>15073126
6.5/10
>>15073500
6/10
>>15073676
7/10
>>15074267
5.5/10

>>15074328
And my taste is actually pretty mediocre desu

Not my main bookshelf, but my area where I usually leave the books I read last. Ulysses is always there for aesthetic value tho

>>15074361
>judging one's own taste as subjectively 'good' or 'bad', and not simply as one's own

>>15073805
I was debating on taking the time to read lovecraft but I was sold at how cheap the edition was in reference to its bulk lol

>>15074382
>makes a giant post rating other posters taste as poor
>then admits to having mediocre taste

Yeah nah he's a bitch.

>>15074420
I got the book for 9 dollars as well

>>15061577
Based lemonysnicked

>>15074478
never trust a rubiks cube guy

Mainly philosophy

>>15074502
>all that heidegger

Based/10

>>15074141
>listfagging

>>15065780
ilu

>>15071286
Pleb, se vai ler tanto livro gringo pelo menos leia na língua original. Alternativamente, se vai ler tudo em Português pelo menos pegue alguma coisa originalmente escrito na sua lingua-mãe. Além disso, cadê Homero, hein??
Don't forget, START WITH THE GREEKS!!!

>>15061577
reflecting back, this series is some fucked shit

>>15072842
is that a whole illustrated book dedicated to wagashi? That's pretty neat

>>15060418
>Eragon

Absolutely based

>>15071286
Pega esse Crime e Castigo da Martin Claret e coloca ele no lixo com carinho. Compra o da 34

>>15074112
Yes, that helped quite a bit. Well done. I'm glad that you're taking action. I've only got one suggestion for you; less is more.

>>15075379
It inspired me to clean the rest of the house too. Y'all are the best bullies.